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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 28, 2024
Published: Jan. 28, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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TOR
  1. Jones, Seth
  2. Murphy, Connor ($2,200,000 retained)
  3. Raddysh, Taylor
Additional Details:
Retention on Murphy balances out Jones' contract. We get a true #1 and a solid top 4 D for 11.7 mil total, just pretend we're paying Jones 7.7 mil and Murphy 4 mil.
CHI
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Hirvonen, Roni
  3. Holmberg, Pontus
  4. Järnkrok, Calle
  5. Liljegren, Timothy
  6. Minten, Fraser
  7. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  8. 2024 5th round pick (VAN)
  9. 2025 5th round pick (CHI)
  10. 2026 3rd round pick (TOR)
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2024
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$83,402,283$0$0$97,717
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
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NMC
UFA - 1
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$758,333$758,333
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RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
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UFA - 4
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
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UFA - 3
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$766,667$766,667
G
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
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UFA - 1
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
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UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$875,000$875,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500 ($0$0$0$0)
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UFA - 1

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Jan. 28 at 12:01 p.m.
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retention on a decent short term contract does not balance out no retention on one of the worst contracts in the league. Jones is on a boat anchor and no team trying to compete during it's length should go anywhere near it
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Jan. 28 at 12:02 p.m.
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Hawks easily decline
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Jan. 28 at 12:04 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
retention on a decent short term contract does not balance out no retention on one of the worst contracts in the league. Jones is on a boat anchor and no team trying to compete during it's length should go anywhere near it


The Jones contract is an overpay by give or take $1.5M, but he's 29 and playing like a #1 dman and as the cap goes up, it will offset a bit. That said, it won't become an anchor for another few years when he starts declining and he's 33 or 34 years old...that's when the anchor really sets in.
Jan. 28 at 12:07 p.m.
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Leafs easily decline


I totally agree
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Jan. 28 at 12:08 p.m.
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The Jones contract is an overpay by give or take $1.5M, but he's 29 and playing like a #1 dman and as the cap goes up, it will offset a bit. That said, it won't become an anchor for another few years when he starts declining and he's 33 or 34 years old...that's when the anchor really sets in.


if he was 24 it might be an ok bet, but he turns 30 in october and the contract goes till he's 37. The fact that he's finally having a year matching his cap hit at 29 is not a good sign at all and makes him, at best, a massive massive risk.
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Jan. 28 at 12:13 p.m.
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I totally agree that the hawks decline


good job
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Jan. 28 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
if he was 24 it might be an ok bet, but he turns 30 in october and the contract goes till he's 37. The fact that he's finally having a year matching his cap hit at 29 is not a good sign at all and makes him, at best, a massive massive risk.


I would say the opposite, that he's having such a good year at 29 suggests he's got a few more in the tank before declining. So no, it's not really an anchor today, but will be down the road
Jan. 28 at 12:17 p.m.
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Seth Jones is going to be in Chicago at least the next two seasons when Chicago can eat some salary to send him off when they need to pay their prospects coming out of ELC's
Jan. 28 at 12:21 p.m.
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I would say the opposite, that he's having such a good year at 29 suggests he's got a few more in the tank before declining. So no, it's not really an anchor today, but will be down the road


that's not how aging curves work though, i mean there is always a chance he goes zach hyman and has a mutant late career, but usually guys who arnt very good through their late 20s that suddenly have a good year, well, that good year is usually a fluke, and with guys like that 'down the road' more often than not means within the next 80 or so games
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Jan. 28 at 12:34 p.m.
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I view the Jones contract like Brian Campbell's back in the day. It was an overpayment at the time but as the young defenders got better, his play got better. I think he'll be on the 2nd pairing in a few years and with the pressure off him, his play will improve.
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Jan. 28 at 12:42 p.m.
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that's not how aging curves work though, i mean there is always a chance he goes zach hyman and has a mutant late career, but usually guys who arnt very good through their late 20s that suddenly have a good year, well, that good year is usually a fluke, and with guys like that 'down the road' more often than not means within the next 80 or so games


He's always been good is the thing, he's a legit #1D stuck on a bad team, yet still has produced quite well despite that. He plays in all situations and logs more minutes than pretty much everyone in the league, has all the tools you could ever ask for with his size, incredible mobility, great puck-moving, elite offensive and defensive IQ, physicality, one of the best shots in the league, all while being a RHD. At worst he's overpaid by 1 mil, but adding him to a team like the Leafs as the cap continues to rise will only increase that value. We'd have to pay way more for that in FA, and that type of player wouldn't be available regardless.

Although you can argue he's overpaid by 1 mil at this point in time, Rielly is probably underpaid by 1 mil, and McCabe and Murphy would be underpaid by at least 2 mil each. We'd be paying our top less than Colorado, Tampa and Vegas, and would stil be among the best D-cores in the league, to go along with a top 3 forward core and very cost effective goaltending for the next couple of years. Jones is legitimately the type of defenseman who could win a Conn Smythe on a team like the Leafs, and we'd be paying him and Murphy only 1 mil more than we paid Muzzin and Brodie almost 5 years ago.
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Jan. 28 at 12:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
He's always been good is the thing, he's a legit #1D stuck on a bad team, yet still has produced quite well despite that. He plays in all situations and logs more minutes than pretty much everyone in the league, has all the tools you could ever ask for with his size, incredible mobility, great puck-moving, elite offensive and defensive IQ, physicality, one of the best shots in the league, all while being a RHD. At worst he's overpaid by 1 mil, but adding him to a team like the Leafs as the cap continues to rise will only increase that value. We'd have to pay way more for that in FA, and that type of player wouldn't be available regardless.

Although you can argue he's overpaid by 1 mil at this point in time, Rielly is probably underpaid by 1 mil, and McCabe and Murphy would be underpaid by at least 2 mil each. We'd be paying our top less than Colorado, Tampa and Vegas, and would stil be among the best D-cores in the league, to go along with a top 3 forward core and very cost effective goaltending for the next couple of years. Jones is legitimately the type of defenseman who could win a Conn Smythe on a team like the Leafs, and we'd be paying him and Murphy only 1 mil more than we paid Muzzin and Brodie almost 5 years ago.


No, he's been middling to awful for pretty much his entire career, him being the 1D has been a major reason his teams have been bad
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Jan. 28 at 12:50 p.m.
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Was that trade serious? Does it really make sense for a rebuilding Hawks to take on 6 players from the Leafs? Nope not even close. None of those players would be part of a core when the Hawks are back to being competitive. (Minten is debatable but far from a lock). As much as we keep hearing how much Jones & Murphy suck, Hawks are comfortable keeping them.
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Jan. 28 at 12:54 p.m.
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Was that trade serious? Does it really make sense for a rebuilding Hawks to take on 6 players from the Leafs? Nope not even close. None of those players would be part of a core when the Hawks are back to being competitive. (Minten is debatable but far from a lock). As much as we keep hearing how much Jones & Murphy suck, Hawks are comfortable keeping them.


Does it really make sense to trade valuable pieces that don't fit your windo of contention for futures? Yes, I'm pretty sure it does.
Jan. 28 at 12:55 p.m.
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No, he's been middling to awful for pretty much his entire career, him being the 1D has been a major reason his teams have been bad


If you're just going to talk out your ass and say dumb **** like this then there's no point discussing this.
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Jan. 28 at 12:56 p.m.
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Does it really make sense to trade valuable pieces that don't fit your windo of contention for futures? Yes, I'm pretty sure it does.

At least you’re convinced.
Jan. 28 at 12:57 p.m.
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At least you’re convinced.


What do you think rebuilding means?
Jan. 28 at 12:58 p.m.
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If you're just going to talk out your ass and say dumb **** like this then there's no point discussing this.


I mean if you dont like thar the facts dont align with what you want a player to be that's on you. It is very easy to look up jones' career and results and they are very ugly. But sure, just deflect and pretend if that makes you feel safe
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Jan. 28 at 12:59 p.m.
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Hawks decline. The package from Toronto is classic quantity over quality. The only 3 pieces from Toronto that would interest the Hawks are the 1st, Lilypad and Minten. Hawks aren't trading Jones and Murphy retained for those 3 pieces.
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Jan. 28 at 1:02 p.m.
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I mean if you dont like thar the facts dont align with what you want a player to be that's on you. It is very easy to look up jones' career and results and they are very ugly. But sure, just deflect and pretend if that makes you feel safe


Except it's not ugly though, at all. He's always been considered as a true #1 league wide, even if he's slightly overpaid right now.
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Jan. 28 at 1:03 p.m.
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What do you think rebuilding means?


I get the strong feeling I would be wasting my time explaining it to you.
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Jan. 28 at 1:06 p.m.
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Except it's not ugly though, at all. He's always been considered as a true #1 league wide, even if he's slightly overpaid right now.


It really is and just because people here said he was a number 1 d does not mean he was. Literally anyone who understands stats and watches him without stars in their eyes knew this. He's slightly overpaid this year because hes having 100x the season He's ever had, every other year he's been on one of the worst contracts in the league and if you understand probability at all he's more than likely to be that guy again sooner than later
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Jan. 28 at 1:19 p.m.
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It really is and just because people here said he was a number 1 d does not mean he was. Literally anyone who understands stats and watches him without stars in their eyes knew this. He's slightly overpaid this year because hes having 100x the season He's ever had, every other year he's been on one of the worst contracts in the league and if you understand probability at all he's more than likely to be that guy again sooner than later


It's not people on here saying that. He was one of the 3 players who were first named to the US olympic team just two years ago, along with Kane and Matthews. That's because he was viewed as the best American defenseman at the time. He's always been a #1 and still is. Amazing that people can't see the difference the strength of your team makes with guys like Doughty, Burns, Hamilton, Lindholm, Morrissey, Pietrangelo etc. as obvious examples. You don't understand stats at all, you just repeat what people tell you. You clearly don't watch him either. If you do, then you have no clue what you're looking at.

I'm going to end this conversation because you've already claimed he's been bad for his whole career, you simply can't be more clueless than that.
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Jan. 28 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Benzino204
Seth Jones is going to be in Chicago at least the next two seasons when Chicago can eat some salary to send him off when they need to pay their prospects coming out of ELC's


One contract isn't going to impact that. Chicago has a ton of cap space that when Korchinski and bedard re-up, it won't be a challenge even if they take up $25M together
Jan. 28 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
that's not how aging curves work though, i mean there is always a chance he goes zach hyman and has a mutant late career, but usually guys who arnt very good through their late 20s that suddenly have a good year, well, that good year is usually a fluke, and with guys like that 'down the road' more often than not means within the next 80 or so games


That's a very broad over generalization you are making. Seth jones had a couple down years when you look at his career but he's been very very good the last couple of years in a very very bad situation. If you aren't watching him play night in and night out and only reading stats or listening to blogs, it's hard to understand. It's not like he's had one good year....that is absurd
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