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Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 30, 2024
Published: Jan. 30, 2024
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  2. 2024 1st round pick (BUF)
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Jan. 30 at 7:27 a.m.
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Jokes title!
Jan. 30 at 7:48 a.m.
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If it's Jirichek I don't think Columbus accepts any protection, maybe top 3 but they'd want it as limited as possible
Jan. 30 at 8:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
If it's Jirichek I don't think Columbus accepts any protection, maybe top 3 but they'd want it as limited as possible


Who do you think will offer up a better pick than this? It would be 8th overall today.

Plus a 20 year old former 1st round pick playing very well in the AHL

plus a 2nd
Jan. 30 at 8:18 a.m.
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Corey Perry: Did someone say "Mom"? 😁
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Jan. 30 at 8:28 a.m.
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Not the quality we would be looking for in jiricek. Starts with someone who is painful to part with.
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Jan. 30 at 9:06 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Who do you think will offer up a better pick than this? It would be 8th overall today.

Plus a 20 year old former 1st round pick playing very well in the AHL

plus a 2nd


It would be close but I think a team gives up a better prospect or Columbus insists on a Quinn, Savoie or Ostlund instead of Rosen
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Jan. 30 at 9:10 a.m.
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Corey Perry: Did someone say "Mom"? 😁


Oh my!
Jan. 30 at 9:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Friendly_Cannon
Not the quality we would be looking for in jiricek. Starts with someone who is painful to part with.


Sabres are not good, pick will be 8-12th in 2024.
Jan. 30 at 10:11 a.m.
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Quoting: Friendly_Cannon
Not the quality we would be looking for in jiricek. Starts with someone who is painful to part with.

Rosen and a top 10 pick isn’t enough? Hed be almost any other teams best prospect. That’s painful enough.
Jan. 30 at 10:37 a.m.
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Quoting: SharkTank
Corey Perry: Did someone say "Mom"? 😁


I thought that was where this was going when I read the title.

Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Who do you think will offer up a better pick than this? It would be 8th overall today.



Plus a 20 year old former 1st round pick playing very well in the AHL

plus a 2nd


You're right. This would probably be the best offer on the market if it became public that he wanted out. I get that Jiricek is good, but if he stops wanting to play in Columbus than I would want to get rid of him if I were a Blue Jackets fan.
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Jan. 30 at 10:55 a.m.
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Rosen and a top 10 pick isn’t enough? Hed be almost any other teams best prospect. That’s painful enough.


I don't know if I'd go quite that far, but he's a very good prospect, he's certainly not a throw in. I would put him in the same tier as savoie and ostlund.
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Jan. 30 at 11:16 a.m.
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Rosen and a top 10 pick isn’t enough? Hed be almost any other teams best prospect. That’s painful enough.


They key is we have a huge need at 1RD, and need high-quality over quantity (even if the "quantity" is also quality). Jiricek is the only guy in the organization who fills that role, so if we move him...we've got to get someone like that coming back. He's not getting moved, but if he did, it would be for someone more like a Reinbacher or Power than any forward. That's purely based on organizational need, the actual total value coming back to Columbus is irrelevant IMO if it's not a young 1RD coming back.
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Jan. 30 at 11:38 a.m.
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Quoting: CaseyFlyman
They key is we have a huge need at 1RD, and need high-quality over quantity (even if the "quantity" is also quality). Jiricek is the only guy in the organization who fills that role, so if we move him...we've got to get someone like that coming back. He's not getting moved, but if he did, it would be for someone more like a Reinbacher or Power than any forward. That's purely based on organizational need, the actual total value coming back to Columbus is irrelevant IMO if it's not a young 1RD coming back.


Not that I disagree with you, but if that is the case, then there isn’t going to be a trade, that makes sense, even if he wants out. Trades like these are usually about flipping your depth, trading from a position of strength to fill a need. Much like Anaheim trading Drysdale to get Cutter Gauthier. Teams don’t usually trade from a position of need hoping to fill that same hole. This perspective trade is predicated on the idea that the Sabres have a plethora of forward depth and guys who won’t make this team based on the guys in front of them that would be very good prospects in another system. And that Columbus does not have a lot of forward depth, but has a ton of defensemen. A deal can be made here that satisfies both teams. If it’s not a right handed, defenseman they demand in return. It’s also safe to say that Owen Power still has more value than David Jiricek.
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Jan. 30 at 11:52 a.m.
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Not that I disagree with you, but if that is the case, then there isn’t going to be a trade, that makes sense, even if he wants out. Trades like these are usually about flipping your depth, trading from a position of strength to fill a need. Much like Anaheim trading Drysdale to get Cutter Gauthier. Teams don’t usually trade from a position of need hoping to fill that same hole. This perspective trade is predicated on the idea that the Sabres have a plethora of forward depth and guys who won’t make this team based on the guys in front of them that would be very good prospects in another system. And that Columbus does not have a lot of forward depth, but has a ton of defensemen. A deal can be made here that satisfies both teams. If it’s not a right handed, defenseman they demand in return. It’s also safe to say that Owen Power still has more value than David Jiricek.


I think the key here is that there isn't going to be at trade, even if he wants out. As for flipping depth...that's great and all for Buffalo, but Columbus does have a ton of forward depth both now and going forward (6 of our 12 regulars are U24), so that's not really filling a need for us. We need a 1RD, and even though we have tons of RD depth, none of them have that potential. Buffalo's prospects here would be good prospects in any system, even ours, but it's still not a fit for Columbus because we have so many others, too.

The two types of trades I could see Columbus making based on our needs are 1) shipping out depth D (Peeke or Boqvist) for similar depth forwards, or 2) packaging Jiricek + ? for a true 1RD replacement (i.e. Power). Option 2 doesn't make a ton of sense for any team, so option 1 (which solves this issue by giving Jiricek playing time in the NHL) is the only realistic fix.

We're not going to flip our high-end prospects for more darts, no matter how good. We have so many darts already.
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Jan. 30 at 12:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Friendly_Cannon
Not the quality we would be looking for in jiricek. Starts with someone who is painful to part with.


Your comment leads me to believe u don’t know much about Rosen….. look him up at least, lololol
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Jan. 30 at 12:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
It would be close but I think a team gives up a better prospect or Columbus insists on a Quinn, Savoie or Ostlund instead of Rosen


I’d say Rosen has- or should have- more Value than Ostlund atm
Jan. 30 at 12:30 p.m.
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Quoting: CaseyFlyman
I think the key here is that there isn't going to be at trade, even if he wants out. As for flipping depth...that's great and all for Buffalo, but Columbus does have a ton of forward depth both now and going forward (6 of our 12 regulars are U24), so that's not really filling a need for us. We need a 1RD, and even though we have tons of RD depth, none of them have that potential. Buffalo's prospects here would be good prospects in any system, even ours, but it's still not a fit for Columbus because we have so many others, too.

The two types of trades I could see Columbus making based on our needs are 1) shipping out depth D (Peeke or Boqvist) for similar depth forwards, or 2) packaging Jiricek + ? for a true 1RD replacement (i.e. Power). Option 2 doesn't make a ton of sense for any team, so option 1 (which solves this issue by giving Jiricek playing time in the NHL) is the only realistic fix.

We're not going to flip our high-end prospects for more darts, no matter how good. We have so many darts already.


I get what you’re saying….
BUT
You guys might not find yourselves in position to get EXACTLY what you want either
Probably comes down to u guys just taking the best offer that gets made


Just my opinion though
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Jan. 30 at 7:54 p.m.
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Your comment leads me to believe u don’t know much about Rosen….. look him up at least, lololol



Honestly, I think Rosen has higher value than Savoie.
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Quoting: Burnzie8_88_4Cup
Honestly, I think Rosen has higher value than Savoie.


Maybe?
I suppose some GMs would prefer Rosen bc he’s bigger than Savoie, but others will prefer his top10 draft status & offensive skill set
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Jan. 30 at 8:12 p.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Maybe?
I suppose some GMs would prefer Rosen bc he’s bigger than Savoie, but others will prefer his top10 draft status & offensive skill set


I mean the complete package, Rosen is really responsible at defense for someone his age, especially at Forward.
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Jan. 30 at 8:15 p.m.
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Don’t think Jarmo even answers the phone.
Jan. 30 at 8:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Burnzie8_88_4Cup
I mean the complete package, Rosen is really responsible at defense for someone his age, especially at Forward.


And some GMs might value that
Others would value Savoie’s higher offensive ceiling
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Jan. 30 at 8:21 p.m.
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And some GMs might value that
Others would value Savoie’s higher offensive ceiling



I hear ya, and I hope our gm is the one that values Rosen.
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Quoting: Burnzie8_88_4Cup
I hear ya, and I hope our gm is the one that values Rosen.


Savoie is electric
Either guy- probably both- end up good pros
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Jan. 30 at 8:37 p.m.
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Savoie is electric
Either guy- probably both- end up good pros



It’s hard for me to say on Savoie, I just haven’t seen enough of him. Rosen I’ve seen for almost 2 years, and he’s solid.
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