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Stop sending quantity for holtz

Created by: dgibb10
Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 2, 2024
Published: Feb. 2, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
NJD
  1. 2024 1st round pick (NYI)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Toffoli, Tyler ($2,125,000 retained)
2.
NJD
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
3.
MTL
  1. Bahl, Kevin
  2. Stillman, Chase
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
  4. 2025 2nd round pick (NJD)
  5. 2026 2nd round pick (NJD)
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This is the equivalent of the stuff you’re trying to send for holtz
4.
MTL
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (NJD)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (NYI)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (NJD)
  4. 2026 3rd round pick (NJD)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$74,605,833$422,500$5,902,500$8,894,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,800,000$8,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 7
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW, C
RFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 4
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$3,250,000$3M)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 2 at 4:36 p.m.
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3rd can't be traded its conditionally apart of Lindholm deal.
Feb. 2 at 4:39 p.m.
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I agree. Holtz if dealt will be part of a package for a player NJ really wants. No way they trade him for spare parts.
Feb. 2 at 4:39 p.m.
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Quoting: CM_Insane
3rd can't be traded its conditionally apart of Lindholm deal.


It could still be traded just with conditions.
Feb. 2 at 4:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Jay27
I agree. Holtz if dealt will be part of a package for a player NJ really wants. No way they trade him for spare parts.


I don’t believe he’ll be traded at all but from Montreal the only realistic package would be built around Guhle and Holtz.

Similar age, contract situation, draft pedigree, blah blah blah.

Montreal has a surplus of LD, and a need for even strength scoring/top 6 scoring in general.

The previous comp of the Dach Romanov swap exists.

NJD has needs of a controlled defensively sound puck moving LD who can kill penalties. I’d like to see Guhle improve on the PK but he should get there with time.

But any time pieces of this magnitude are talked about on this app (like genuine meaningful pieces that teams don’t want to give up) homerism takes over completely on both sides (and I can’t say I’m not immune to it)

Other pieces of interest to build around would be guys like Swayman, Askarov, Rossi…. Just off the dome
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Feb. 2 at 4:44 p.m.
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Relax bro... these trade proposals are all over the place, regardless of team fans and players.
I agree with you, but going for revenge-proposal is useless.
We know Holtz is a good player and he won't be traded for scrap.
All good in da hood
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Feb. 2 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
It could still be traded just with conditions.


We don't have another 3rd until 2027 and unless NJ is happy with a 4th instead it doesn't make sense.
Feb. 2 at 4:46 p.m.
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Why do people always have the urge to fight stupid with stupid on this site??
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Feb. 2 at 4:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
Why do people always have the urge to fight stupid with stupid on this site??


Quoting: Fran615
Relax bro... these trade proposals are all over the place, regardless of team fans and players.
I agree with you, but going for revenge-proposal is useless.
We know Holtz is a good player and he won't be traded for scrap.
All good in da hood


It is simply to prove a point and paint things from the other perspective.

I am happy to have meaningful conversations about Holtz and other pieces. But seeing garbage offered for him time and again gets irritating
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Feb. 2 at 4:59 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
It is simply to prove a point and paint things from the other perspective.

I am happy to have meaningful conversations about Holtz and other pieces. But seeing garbage offered for him time and again gets irritating


ok ok, it would hurt, but I can totally come to terms with trading Armia for Holtz, deal?
Feb. 2 at 5:01 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
It is simply to prove a point and paint things from the other perspective.

I am happy to have meaningful conversations about Holtz and other pieces. But seeing garbage offered for him time and again gets irritating


I hear ya bro.
I believe this also happens with everyone on here...
I saw COUNTLESS offers for Monahan that were garbage, like a 6th round pick and an ECHLer...
I get it; we love our players, and we know them well.

Cheers bro!
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