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Created by: VanIsle73
Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 3, 2024
Published: Feb. 3, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Guentzel, Jake ($3,000,000 retained)
PIT
  1. Klimovich, Danila
  2. Kudryavtsev, Kirill
  3. McDonough, Aidan
  4. Podkolzin, Vasily
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
  6. 2024 4th round pick (NJD)
  7. 2026 1st round pick (VAN)
2.
CGY
  1. Bloom, Josh
  2. 2026 2nd round pick (VAN)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$78,546,667$850,000$0$4,953,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 2

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Feb. 3 at 10:51 p.m.
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That Jake trade is all quantity over quality. Pens Decline. - Start with 1st, 2nd and Pod. That's pretty close, but especially with retention you'll need to add more.
Feb. 3 at 11:01 p.m.
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Try again

Both these trades heavily favor VAN
Feb. 3 at 11:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
That Jake trade is all quantity over quality. Pens Decline. - Start with 1st, 2nd and Pod. That's pretty close, but especially with retention you'll need to add more.


Nah, a 1st, 2nd and Pod isn't close anymore with their 2024 1st out the door and the price Lindholm was. They need to add.

Starts with 2026 1st, Hoglander and Pod, probably still need more.
Feb. 3 at 11:08 p.m.
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Quoting: pens1991
Nah, a 1st, 2nd and Pod isn't close anymore with their 2024 1st out the door and the price Lindholm was. They need to add.

Starts with 2026 1st, Hoglander and Pod, probably still need more.


Canucks aren't getting Guentzel, they aren't trading the assets it would take to get him now as those went to Lindholm. Lindy is a better fit anyway.
Feb. 3 at 11:12 p.m.
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Quoting: westleysnipez
Canucks aren't getting Guentzel, they aren't trading the assets it would take to get him now as those went to Lindholm. Lindy is a better fit anyway.


Oh I don't anticipate them going for him, but i'm just saying what it would cost now.

I guess it depends the lineup that Van wants to run, but i'd say Guentzel is the better fit on wing if they ran Pettersson/Miller/suter/Blueger down the middle and then Jake on the wing for probably Petterson

but that's me.
Feb. 3 at 11:27 p.m.
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Quoting: pens1991
Oh I don't anticipate them going for him, but i'm just saying what it would cost now.

I guess it depends the lineup that Van wants to run, but i'd say Guentzel is the better fit on wing if they ran Pettersson/Miller/suter/Blueger down the middle and then Jake on the wing for probably Petterson

but that's me.


Nah, Vancouver's real lack was 2C, Pettersson can do it, but it makes more sense to run the Lotto line with essentially lines 2a and 2b. Lindholm makes multiple lines better at once by easing the draws on Miller, Pettersson, Blueger, and Suter rather than Guentzel improving only his line. Obviously, Guentzel is superior offensively, but Lindholm's versatility makes him the more valuable asset for Vancouver.
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