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TDL 24

Created by: CaptainRielly
Published: Feb. 5 at 2:39 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 73/192 (38%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

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OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Parayko, ColtonSt. Louis BluesNHL-$2,471,354011---4981018--
Blais, SamuelSt. Louis BluesNHL-$380,208011---39167--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Reaves, RyanToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$513,281011---22202--
Järnkrok, CalleToronto Maple LeafsIR-$798,437011---4610919--
Timmins, ConorToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$418,229011---16156--
Niemelä, TopiWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsMinor-$0011---0000--
Voit, TyWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$549,5802247683811
Change$1,121,615033100
Final$1,671,195 (↑)2250 (↑)71 (↑)4 (↑)8114-22

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $14,462,500
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $14,427,501
Relief Change: $3,000,000
Initial LTIR Cap Space: $3,034,999
Coincident TransactionInitial StatusNew StatusCap Hit ChangeRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Domi, MaxNHLLTIR$0-1-----------
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Reaves, RyanToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,350,000011---22202--
Järnkrok, CalleToronto Maple LeafsIR-$2,100,000011---4610919--
Timmins, ConorToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,100,000011---16156--
Niemelä, TopiWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsMinor-$0011---0000--
Voit, TyWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Parayko, ColtonSt. Louis BluesNHL-$6,500,000011---4981018--
Blais, SamuelSt. Louis BluesNHL-$1,000,000011---39167--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,034,9992247622315
Change-$2,950,000-1-3-3-100
Final$84,999 (↓)21 (↓)44 (↓)59 (↓)1 (↓)315-42-2
Feb. 5 at 2:45 p.m.
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Id give Topi, Ty and the first. But I wouldn't give Timmins and Jarnkrok as well. Thats too much. Those are both valuable pieces for the Leafs right now. They would be losing as much they are gaining.
Feb. 5 at 2:56 p.m.
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Id give Topi, Ty and the first. But I wouldn't give Timmins and Jarnkrok as well. Thats too much. Those are both valuable pieces for the Leafs right now. They would be losing as much they are gaining.


I dunno man, his contract is terrible. I wouldn't want to be stuck with 6.5 for 7 years.
Feb. 5 at 3:10 p.m.
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I dunno man, his contract is terrible. I wouldn't want to be stuck with 6.5 for 7 years.


I know what you mean. But he is still capable of top 4 and is only 30. He still has 3 or 4 good years in him anyways. Dont get me wrong. Not my ideal choice for that price. But for the right deal, I would do it. But losing Timmins and Jarnkrok in the deal is a 100% no chance. A couple of middle prospects and a 1 first. I would do that.
Feb. 5 at 3:39 p.m.
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I know what you mean. But he is still capable of top 4 and is only 30. He still has 3 or 4 good years in him anyways. Dont get me wrong. Not my ideal choice for that price. But for the right deal, I would do it. But losing Timmins and Jarnkrok in the deal is a 100% no chance. A couple of middle prospects and a 1 first. I would do that.


Quoting: Rhea
I dunno man, his contract is terrible. I wouldn't want to be stuck with 6.5 for 7 years.


It's okay, blues don't want a pile of junk either

Easy pass
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Feb. 5 at 4:14 p.m.
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Uhh you can keep all your trash, thanks.


Quoting: svfsdv
Id give Topi, Ty and the first. But I wouldn't give Timmins and Jarnkrok as well. Thats too much. Those are both valuable pieces for the Leafs right now. They would be losing as much they are gaining.


tears of joy

Classic stuff, man. Whoo lordy.
Feb. 5 at 5:52 p.m.
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I dunno man, his contract is terrible. I wouldn't want to be stuck with 6.5 for 7 years.


Do you realize how buy-out friendly it is in 5 years? Or are you just blindly following what 3 people on here seem to spout? Not to mention with the cap going up, you aren't going to be able to hardly sign a 2nd pair d man for under 7m. Parayko has at least 3-4 years of being a high-end shutdown d man.
Feb. 5 at 5:58 p.m.
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Do you realize how buy-out friendly it is in 5 years? Or are you just blindly following what 3 people on here seem to spout? Not to mention with the cap going up, you aren't going to be able to hardly sign a 2nd pair d man for under 7m. Parayko has at least 3-4 years of being a high-end shutdown d man.


Blindly following? Ok genius, I mentioned the contract length first...how can I be following them?

My preference is to not add older players...I realize I didn't ask your permission to reply though. I hope this one was ok by you because you seem to get your panties in a bunch pretty easily.

You mention the buyout in 5 years then say he has 3 to 4 years of being a high end shutdown d...so which is it? Or do we just have a non high end shutdown d on the roster for poops and giggles?
Feb. 5 at 6:18 p.m.
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Blindly following? Ok genius, I mentioned the contract length first...how can I be following them?

My preference is to not add older players...I realize I didn't ask your permission to reply though. I hope this one was ok by you because you seem to get your panties in a bunch pretty easily.

You mention the buyout in 5 years then say he has 3 to 4 years of being a high end shutdown d...so which is it? Or do we just have a non high end shutdown d on the roster for poops and giggles?


I think it was pretty clear, he has at least 3-4 very high end years left. That’ll take him to 33-34. He’s not overly physical. The only thing that would hamper him is if his skating goes. Don’t see that happening prior to 35. Didn’t for Bouwmeester.

He has 7 years left on his deal. Once he turns 35 which is in 5 years he’s very buy-out friendly. I see no reason to beleive he would fall off before then. Or really too hard after then.

You commented the contract is terrible. I’m stating why it’s not. It’s the same response from generally advanced analytics people who don’t understand the context of the analytics.

Sorry if it came off strong. But it’s the same debate 4 times a day between generally Leafs/Oilers fans of people trading scraps, and by scraps I mean B and C prospects and late 1sts and then complaining that the contract is terrible and that’s justification. He’s literally the Blues whole defense. There’s no reasoning for trading him for long shots.

His contract is not bad. It’s fair value if not an undervalue. If you want to look at bad value. Look at Krug and Faulk. The combination of the two is why Parayko is being thrown to the wolves with a career #4 puck mover. And doing fairly well.
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Feb. 7 at 10:10 a.m.
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It's okay, blues don't want a pile of junk either

Easy pass


Blues would take this 500% of the time lol
Feb. 7 at 11:10 a.m.
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Blues would take this 500% of the time lol


I mean they won't at all. It's a bunch of nothing coming from Toronto.

Best part is what, a first (late pick)? Nothing enticing
Feb. 7 at 11:30 a.m.
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I mean they won't at all. It's a bunch of nothing coming from Toronto.

Best part is what, a first (late pick)? Nothing enticing


The best part is a team that needs to enter tank mode getting rid of a player on a brutal contract who is hindering their ability to lose games right now. Blues are in limbo and need to embrace the tank. All their cap space is tied up in D men on the wrong side of 30 and they are barely clinging to the wild card spot as they. Only getting worse year over year. Its time for them to nuke. And when you are doing that, 2 young prospects and a first round pick is a massive overpay for a cap dump.
Feb. 7 at 11:36 a.m.
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The best part is a team that needs to enter tank mode getting rid of a player on a brutal contract who is hindering their ability to lose games right now. Blues are in limbo and need to embrace the tank. All their cap space is tied up in D men on the wrong side of 30 and they are barely clinging to the wild card spot as they. Only getting worse year over year. Its time for them to nuke. And when you are doing that, 2 young prospects and a first round pick is a massive overpay for a cap dump.


Blues would trade any of Krug, Leddy, or Faulk before they traded Parayko. Parayko is a top RD at 6.5 mil, which is not a bad deal in the long run. Getting rid of the others would free up ample space to address other issues. The back end of the Parayko deal may be bad, sure. But right now, the deal is solid.

I just love how everyone on this site bashes Parayko because of his contract, yet everyone and their mother are trying to trade for him. Why? Because he's a dam good player. So he's not a 'cap dump' and the 'offer' here is a bunch of garbage anyway.

Do the Blues need to embrace the tank? No, they don't. Free up some contracts (that are not Parayko) and then address holes elsewhere while the prospects grow.
Feb. 7 at 12:04 p.m.
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Blues would trade any of Krug, Leddy, or Faulk before they traded Parayko. Parayko is a top RD at 6.5 mil, which is not a bad deal in the long run. Getting rid of the others would free up ample space to address other issues. The back end of the Parayko deal may be bad, sure. But right now, the deal is solid.

I just love how everyone on this site bashes Parayko because of his contract, yet everyone and their mother are trying to trade for him. Why? Because he's a dam good player. So he's not a 'cap dump' and the 'offer' here is a bunch of garbage anyway.

Do the Blues need to embrace the tank? No, they don't. Free up some contracts (that are not Parayko) and then address holes elsewhere while the prospects grow.


I have only seen STL fans trying to get rid of him. I haven't seen anyone trying to trade FOR him. You are free to have your opinion on the team of course. They are nowhere near competitive. They need a huge overhaul and its going to take years. Yes they could move their other D men except they all have NTC and have the same problem. They are all aged out guys with high cap hits for long terms. They would have to pay to get rid of them. Making their rebuild even longer. That team needs so much work that none of those players will still be viable options by the time they are ready to compete again. They should cap dump them all and tank. If they dont do it soon, Kyrou, Thomas and Binnington are going to age out before they are ready as well. They are making the same mistake OTT is. By the time they realize it, all the useful pieces they have will be worthless.
Feb. 7 at 12:12 p.m.
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I have only seen STL fans trying to get rid of him. I haven't seen anyone trying to trade FOR him. You are free to have your opinion on the team of course. They are nowhere near competitive. They need a huge overhaul and its going to take years. Yes they could move their other D men except they all have NTC and have the same problem. They are all aged out guys with high cap hits for long terms. They would have to pay to get rid of them. Making their rebuild even longer. That team needs so much work that none of those players will still be viable options by the time they are ready to compete again. They should cap dump them all and tank. If they dont do it soon, Kyrou, Thomas and Binnington are going to age out before they are ready as well. They are making the same mistake OTT is. By the time they realize it, all the useful pieces they have will be worthless.


Where are there Blues fans trying to trade away Parayko? Never see them anywhere. It's always delusional Toronto fans trading for him saying "his contract will age poorly, but we want him anyway."

Blues don't really have many younger d-men in the wings anyway so it's not a rush to get rid of some of these guys. Whenever their NTC clauses loosen up and/or they play better (example being Krug), maybe that trade value goes up and they are able to get something. But it's not a rush.

I've seen some of your other "opinions" on here and frankly, they're all pretty bad. So not going to waste any more of my time here arguing with a wall
 
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