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Dream Scenario

Created by: Subbanator7667
Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 6, 2024
Published: Feb. 6, 2024
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Probably won't happen because I believe it's to early in the rebuild for this direction BUT it would be fun to see
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$8,200,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Hutson, Lane
3$950,000
Trades
1.
ANA
  1. Beck, Owen
  2. 2024 1st round pick (WPG)
  3. 2025 1st round pick (CGY)
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Add one of Mallioux or Xhejak
2.
MTL
  1. 2024 4th round pick (SJS)
ARI
  1. Allen, Jake
Additional Details:
Any where for anything
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2024
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2025
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2026
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24$85,000,000$81,897,083$1,022,500$4,977,500$3,102,917
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 6
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
$8,200,000$8,200,000
LW, RW
UFA
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
G
UFA - 3
Hutson, Lane
$950,000$950,000
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 1
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$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 6 at 8:52 a.m.
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Yeah, there’s no chance Guentzel signs for 8.2 x 5. Especially in MTL.
Feb. 6 at 8:55 a.m.
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Too much for Zegras, doubt it takes more than a 1st (in the 7-10 range) + Mesar + Farrell
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Feb. 6 at 8:56 a.m.
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Not the right pieces for Zegras. They aren't looking to get a bunch of lottery tickets for him.
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Feb. 6 at 9:03 a.m.
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Mallioux especially after the hockey Canada and his past sexual misconduct is probably untradable.
I'm Verbeek I say add WiFi and it's an easy yes
Feb. 6 at 9:04 a.m.
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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska
Yeah, there’s no chance Guentzel signs for 8.2 x 5. Especially in MTL.


You think he's a $9 million guy in the open market?
Feb. 6 at 9:05 a.m.
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You think he's a $9 million guy in the open market?


Yes. Montreal is also the heaviest tax burdened municipality in the NHL.
Feb. 6 at 9:05 a.m.
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Mallioux especially after the hockey Canada and his past sexual misconduct is probably untradable.


That's long behind him, he's done a bunch of work to get past it and was just selected as an AHL all star. I think he's very tradeable
Feb. 6 at 9:10 a.m.
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Not the right pieces for Zegras. They aren't looking to get a bunch of lottery tickets for him.


In my opinion Beck is a guaranteed defensive, face off winning 3C, which Anaheim doesn't have in their system. Also think Verbeek would want some size and toughness on his defense since they don't have anyone like that coming up. He signed Gudas for that reason, makes sense they'd want a prospect that can take that roll over when they're looking to compete
Feb. 6 at 9:11 a.m.
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id much rather keep those picks and beck, Allen trade is the only thing there that should happen for the habs.
Feb. 6 at 9:13 a.m.
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Too much for Zegras, doubt it takes more than a 1st (in the 7-10 range) + Mesar + Farrell


I'd rather use that 2024 1st on a guy like Parekh or Levshunov and use a mass amount of assets to get Zegras. It all depends on what the Ducks want of course but this is the course I'd rather go
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Feb. 6 at 9:14 a.m.
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id much rather keep those picks and beck, Allen trade is the only thing there that should happen for the habs.


You don't want an offensive star?
Feb. 6 at 9:14 a.m.
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That's long behind him, he's done a bunch of work to get past it and was just selected as an AHL all star. I think he's very tradeable


I'm a GM after the whole garbage that just went down I'm not taking the chance.
Feb. 6 at 9:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
I'm a GM after the whole garbage that just went down I'm not taking the chance.


What's the chance? What is the actual risk?
Feb. 6 at 9:18 a.m.
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Jake Guentzel will be in the 7 x $9,500,000 range not your low ball range.

One 1st rounder too many, And those pieces aren't the right pieces for Zegras, Pat Verbeek declines.
Feb. 6 at 9:18 a.m.
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What's the chance? What is the actual risk?


1 bad publicity 2 his judgement has proven extremely poor. Do people learn from Mistakes? Sometimes ,but there enough guys out there unless you're giving me him for next to nothing I move on.
Feb. 6 at 9:18 a.m.
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In my opinion Beck is a guaranteed defensive, face off winning 3C, which Anaheim doesn't have in their system. Also think Verbeek would want some size and toughness on his defense since they don't have anyone like that coming up. He signed Gudas for that reason, makes sense they'd want a prospect that can take that roll over when they're looking to compete


I'm thinking they are likely looking for a high end young piece. Reinbacher, Jiricek, Kent Johnson are all players that come to mind. I don't think they want a bunch of lesser pieces. They have a lot of time to draft bottom 6 players or allow what they thought were top 6 players when drafted, fill those rolls.
I understand that more darts to through is never a bad thing but I think they want to make sure whatever they get is a little more guaranteed.
Also they already have 10 picks this draft, possibly another 1st for Rico and if they decide to move him, another 1st for Vatrano.
If you want to debate this more, just ask yourself, would you trade Caufield for a similar package? Not saying exactly this package as you might view Caufield greater than Zegras which is debatable. Just saying a package of decent but not really good-great pieces.
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Feb. 6 at 9:22 a.m.
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You don't want an offensive star?[/quotei

65 point is an offensive star now? lol hes a one way forward i would be down to have him but moving beck and multipe first for a guy on pace for 35 points is a bit ridiculous. Beck wont have his offence but could be a better overall play for the habs on his own.
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Feb. 6 at 9:34 a.m.
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I'm thinking they are likely looking for a high end young piece. Reinbacher, Jiricek, Kent Johnson are all players that come to mind. I don't think they want a bunch of lesser pieces. They have a lot of time to draft bottom 6 players or allow what they thought were top 6 players when drafted, fill those rolls.
I understand that more darts to through is never a bad thing but I think they want to make sure whatever they get is a little more guaranteed.
Also they already have 10 picks this draft, possibly another 1st for Rico and if they decide to move him, another 1st for Vatrano.
If you want to debate this more, just ask yourself, would you trade Caufield for a similar package? Not saying exactly this package as you might view Caufield greater than Zegras which is debatable. Just saying a package of decent but not really good-great pieces.


Anaheim doesn't have the same holes to fill as MTL though. MTL are likely set on defense and bottom six forwards, Anaheim is likely looking for RHD and bottom 6 role players. So the value of what each team is looking for is very different. Also, Caufield is happy in MTL, Zegras apparently isn't happy after the contract negotiations last off season.

I think Anaheim targets and drafts Levshunov and after that they basically have their whole top 6 forward group and their top d pairing for the future. This trade fills in the rest of their team and that's what I was trying to accomplish with it
Feb. 6 at 9:35 a.m.
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He was 65 points in his first two seasons, he will get even better and likely end up a ppg player, which is definitely elite scoring. Beck won't be close to him, Beck is hopefully a Danualt type which is great but not the same level
Feb. 6 at 9:43 a.m.
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Anaheim doesn't have the same holes to fill as MTL though. MTL are likely set on defense and bottom six forwards, Anaheim is likely looking for RHD and bottom 6 role players. So the value of what each team is looking for is very different. Also, Caufield is happy in MTL, Zegras apparently isn't happy after the contract negotiations last off season.

I think Anaheim targets and drafts Levshunov and after that they basically have their whole top 6 forward group and their top d pairing for the future. This trade fills in the rest of their team and that's what I was trying to accomplish with it


Zegras is signed for two more years after this one. The contract negotiations where interesting we will say, as Verbeek wants him to start playing a better two way game. I think the deal was, they give him a short term bridge deal and in that time Zegras can try to round out his game. He already has the offensive talent so working on his two way play is important. After that I'm sure he will get a long term contract he deserves. He is still a RFA after this deal is done so absolutely zero reason at all to ever move him, especially in one that doesn't significantly improve the team now and in the future. Depth pieces are not what they are after. They can get those easy enough themselves as I stated earlier. Between their own draft picks and free agent signings or smaller trades.
Feb. 6 at 9:44 a.m.
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Quoting: MoSeider53
Jake Guentzel will be in the 7 x $9,500,000 range not your low ball range.

One 1st rounder too many, And those pieces aren't the right pieces for Zegras, Pat Verbeek declines.


9.5 for Guentzel is a hell of a price. I know he may be worth it but don't know how many teams will be lining up to sign that contract
Feb. 6 at 10:07 a.m.
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I'd rather use that 2024 1st on a guy like Parekh or Levshunov and use a mass amount of assets to get Zegras. It all depends on what the Ducks want of course but this is the course I'd rather go

IF the Ducks are considering trading Zegras, which I don't believe because right now, his trade value is the lowest it will ever be, they won't take the mass assets approach because Levshunov or Parekh (or Reinbacher) is exactly what they'd hope to get out of a Zegras trade.
Feb. 6 at 10:12 a.m.
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IF the Ducks are considering trading Zegras, which I don't believe because right now, his trade value is the lowest it will ever be, they won't take the mass assets approach because Levshunov or Parekh (or Reinbacher) is exactly what they'd hope to get out of a Zegras trade.


They're already drafting Levshunov in my mind. Once you have him or Parekh then I don't see any other holes in their foundation. It's all filling out small gaps after that. I see why they'd want another elite piece back but whatever that elite piece is will likely still be a second line forward or a second pairing dman
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Feb. 6 at 10:32 a.m.
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I'd rather use that 2024 1st on a guy like Parekh or Levshunov and use a mass amount of assets to get Zegras. It all depends on what the Ducks want of course but this is the course I'd rather go


Problem is we don't need defensive prospects, we have Reinbacher, Mailloux, Konyushkov, Barron, Kostenko, Sobolov and Tourigny all coming, with any 2 of the first 4 being our future tip 2 RHD. On the Left we are even deeper with Guhle, Hutson, Harris, Struble, Xhekaj, Engstrom and Mittelstadt all having top 6 potential and any 2 of the first 6 having top 4 potential. I wouldn't waste another top 10 pick on a D man either trade it to move up in the draft for one of the top forwards or move it and a couple prospects for a guy like Mittelstadt, PLD or Zegras but don't overspend
Feb. 6 at 10:42 a.m.
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Problem is we don't need defensive prospects, we have Reinbacher, Mailloux, Konyushkov, Barron, Kostenko, Sobolov and Tourigny all coming, with any 2 of the first 4 being our future tip 2 RHD. On the Left we are even deeper with Guhle, Hutson, Harris, Struble, Xhekaj, Engstrom and Mittelstadt all having top 6 potential and any 2 of the first 6 having top 4 potential. I wouldn't waste another top 10 pick on a D man either trade it to move up in the draft for one of the top forwards or move it and a couple prospects for a guy like Mittelstadt, PLD or Zegras but don't overspend


I just don't see to much elite talent on either side. Demidov would be my pick if we stay pat at the draft, adding Zegras to a forward core with Demidov, Cole and Suzuki wouldn't work in my mind though.

Getting Zegras would allow the Habs to draft Levshunov or Parekh and have a very good forward core and an elite dcore

It's just a matter of what's available and what they are capable of doing
 
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