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Created by: Dom1422
Published: Feb. 7 at 5:55 a.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 71/192 (37%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Anaheim DucksAnaheim Ducks

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Zegras, TrevorAnaheim DucksIR-$2,126,302011---20437--
2024 2nd round pick (Logo of the Anaheim DucksANA)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Armia, JoelMontreal CanadiensNHL-$1,257,292011---34819--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMTL)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$8,427,6342147683812
Change$869,0101001-10
Final$9,296,644 (↑)22 (↑)47684 (↑)7 (↓)124-22

Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMontreal Canadiens

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Armia, JoelMontreal CanadiensNHL-$3,400,000011---34819--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMTL)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Zegras, TrevorAnaheim DucksIR-$5,750,000011---20437--
2024 2nd round pick (Logo of the Anaheim DucksANA)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$5,714,1672345715916
Change-$2,350,000-100-110
Final$3,364,167 (↓)22 (↓)45714 (↓)10 (↑)16-42-2
Feb. 7 at 5:58 a.m.
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Not saying I would do this (not really a fan of Zegras), but this might be the only way to get it done (Habs don’t have that perfect piece that fills a need for Anaheim), so they get to draft that perfect piece themselves.

Pick is likely in the 4-6 range, that’s higher than where Anaheim originally picked Zegras to begin with. Take back Armia (for the contract) and give us a 2nd.

If the plan is to draft Demidov then there is zero chance I do this deal. Might not do it regardless. The headache probably isn’t worth it.
Feb. 7 at 8:04 a.m.
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The fact you think Anaheim has to add our 2nd along with Taking that horrid contract is just insane man
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Feb. 7 at 8:21 a.m.
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Edited Feb. 7 at 8:29 a.m.
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The fact you think Anaheim has to add our 2nd along with Taking that horrid contract is just insane man


He’s under contract for one season my man.. and you definitely would have to. Actually in any trade involving Zegras you’ll be taking back money, that’s just how it works. You would definitely be giving back a 2nd as well if you’re getting a top 5 pick.

Verbeek isn’t turning down a top 5 pick because they have to take back Armia for a year (can literally just put him in the ahl if you want) not like you need the cap space and it’s not like you’re going to be a competitive team anyway.
Feb. 7 at 9:03 a.m.
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MTL definitely doesn’t do that. Catton and Demidov clears Zegras. Who knows, we could end up winning the lottery
Feb. 7 at 9:07 a.m.
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Edited Feb. 7 at 9:12 a.m.
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MTL definitely doesn’t do that. Catton and Demidov clears Zegras. Who knows, we could end up winning the lottery


This trade would come after the lottery, and yes it would come down to whether or not we’re willing to draft Demidov (like I stated at the top of the thread) and Catton for that matter. I’d rather have both, but there is a real possibility, especially given past picks, that we would take Helenius. Not a bad player, probably a high end 2c, In that case I’d consider trading the pick for Zegras. We need that talent level on this team.
Feb. 7 at 9:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Dom1422
This trade would come after the lottery, and yes it would come down to whether or not we’re willing to draft Demidov (like I stated at the top of the thread) and Catton for that matter. I’d rather have both, but there is a real possibility, especially given past picks, that we would take Helenius. Not a bad player, probably a high end 2c, a small chance he even becomes a low end two-way 1c. In that case I’d consider trading the pick for Zegras. We need that talent level on this team.

Imo, Helenius becomes a winger, and will give him a slightly higher ceiling. He wouldn’t be as good as Demidov or Catton, but probably will still be better than Zegras the way he is trending. Plus, if we do take Helenius, it means MTL saw him higher than a Catton or Demidov
Feb. 7 at 9:15 a.m.
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Imo, Helenius becomes a winger, and will give him a slightly higher ceiling. He wouldn’t be as good as Demidov or Catton, but probably will still be better than Zegras the way he is trending. Plus, if we do take Helenius, it means MTL saw him higher than a Catton or Demidov


Helenius is a prototypical centre with the potential to be great, or even elite defensively. If you draft him to be a winger you’re making a mistake. I like Helenius, but he has nowhere near the talent Zegras does. Does he maybe become a better all around player? Maybe, but we need more high end talent. Not a bunch of low end 1st or 2nd line guys. We have those, we can get those. Typically the only way you get special talent is high in the draft (or in this case trading that pick for it), unless you get incredibly lucky.
Feb. 7 at 9:25 a.m.
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Imo, Helenius becomes a winger, and will give him a slightly higher ceiling. He wouldn’t be as good as Demidov or Catton, but probably will still be better than Zegras the way he is trending. Plus, if we do take Helenius, it means MTL saw him higher than a Catton or Demidov


Look I’m not sold on Zegras. I can’t stand his attitude, but you have to hope he matures. The only way I do this is if we’re going to draft a guy like Helenius. Where are we going to get the high end talented forward? We could get lucky at some point and find it later in the draft, but would you bet on it? I wouldn’t, it’s very rare. Do we pick top 5 again next season? Maybe, but who’s to say we take that guy then if we weren’t willing to the past two drafts? I want another game changer. Not a game manager.
Feb. 7 at 12:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Dom1422
Not saying I would do this (not really a fan of Zegras), but this might be the only way to get it done (Habs don’t have that perfect piece that fills a need for Anaheim), so they get to draft that perfect piece themselves.

Pick is likely in the 4-6 range, that’s higher than where Anaheim originally picked Zegras to begin with. Take back Armia (for the contract) and give us a 2nd.

If the plan is to draft Demidov then there is zero chance I do this deal.


You do, he's called Reinbacher. Him plus your 25 2nd for Zegras.

You're not getting pick 35 a long with Zegras for pick 5, that's not how that works.
Feb. 7 at 12:34 p.m.
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You do, he's called Reinbacher. Him plus your 25 2nd for Zegras.

You're not getting pick 35 a long with Zegras for pick 5, that's not how that works.


Zegras isn’t worth the 5th overall pick straight up.. sorry. He wasn’t worth that the second he was drafted, let alone now that everyone knows he’s a headache. This offer is to rich, but Hughes said he’d be willing to overpay.

Trading Reinbacher hurts a position of need for us. I’d rather give that pick (if the pick is going to be Henelius or anyone not named Demidov/Catton) than trade him.

If we’re willing to pick Demidov or Catton, then I keep the pick because both should be better than Zegras, and even if they’re not quite, at least they don’t come with the baggage.
Feb. 7 at 1:01 p.m.
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Zegras isn’t worth the 5th overall pick straight up.. sorry. He wasn’t worth that the second he was drafted, let alone now that everyone knows he’s a headache. This offer is to rich, but Hughes said he’d be willing to overpay.

Trading Reinbacher hurts a position of need for us. I’d rather give that pick (if the pick is going to be Henelius or anyone not named Demidov/Catton) than trade him.

If we’re willing to pick Demidov or Catton, then I keep the pick because both should be better than Zegras, and even if they’re not quite, at least they don’t come with the baggage.


You're right, 5th overall for Zegras straight up isn't balanced, MTL is adding. Don't like it don't buy him.
Feb. 7 at 1:06 p.m.
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You're right, 5th overall for Zegras straight up isn't balanced, MTL is adding. Don't like it don't buy him.


I just realized you’re a Ducks fan lmao. You actually can’t see how disliked this player is around the league. Most GM’s don’t want anything to do with him (I think Hughes will actually be one of them who won’t want him) Zero coaches will want anything to do with him. Ducks are in a tough spot. Kid doesn’t care about defense, cares more about getting on sports centre than winning hockey games. He’s a headache.

I agree we won’t get him, I think the Ducks are stuck with him because they’ll have to give him away for less that they want to and Verbeek won’t want to look bad. He’s not that good my man. Not good enough for most team to have to deal with the headache. Can only win with a guy like this if he’s sheltered and pampered.

The Dubois situation should teach most GM’s to stay away.
Feb. 7 at 1:34 p.m.
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I just realized you’re a Ducks fan lmao. You actually can’t see how disliked this player is around the league. Most GM’s don’t want anything to do with him (I think Hughes will actually be one of them who won’t want him) Zero coaches will want anything to do with him. Ducks are in a tough spot. Kid doesn’t care about defense, cares more about getting on sports centre than winning hockey games. He’s a headache.

I agree we won’t get him, I think the Ducks are stuck with him because they’ll have to give him away for less that they want to and Verbeek won’t want to look bad. He’s not that good my man. Not good enough for most team to have to deal with the headache. Can only win with a guy like this if he’s sheltered and pampered.

The Dubois situation should teach most GM’s to stay away.


Zegras would be the best player on MTL. You guys just try and say stupid **** to fit in with the “cool crowd”.
Feb. 7 at 1:36 p.m.
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Zegras would be the best player on MTL. You guys just try and say stupid **** to fit in with the “cool crowd”.


He has the talent to be, problem is he’s a head case. A high maintenance prima donna. Coach wouldn’t want to play him unless he got his **** together. No more trying to get on sports centre and start trying in the defensive zone. Fix your attitude, you aren’t owed ****. Veterans and team leaders wouldn't be able to stand this guy. We already know that based on how the rest of the league views him. And that’s the reason Verbeek wants him as far away from that team as possible. He’s probably not wrong.
Feb. 7 at 1:43 p.m.
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He has the talent to be, problem is he’s a head case. A high maintenance prima donna. Coach wouldn’t want to play him unless he got his **** together. No more trying to get on sports centre and start trying in the defensive zone. Fix your attitude, you aren’t owed ****. Veterans and team leaders wouldn't be able to stand this guy. We already know that based on how the rest of the league views him. And that’s the reason Verbeek wants him as far away from that team as possible. He’s probably not wrong.


See you guys just say **** to say ****.
Feb. 7 at 1:49 p.m.
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See you guys just say **** to say ****.


I didn’t say it… don’t look at me. EVERYONE is saying it. The insiders are saying it, players around the league are saying it. The only ones not saying it are the ones who can’t (GM’s/coaches) but guess what? You damn sure know they’re thinking it.

This other guy had the audacity to say he’s worth more than a 5th overall pick. Guess what, I’ll tell you why he’s not worth that and I’ll spell it out because you guys are to naive and biased to see it for yourselves.
Feb. 7 at 2:13 p.m.
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I didn’t say it… don’t look at me. EVERYONE is saying it. The insiders are saying it, players around the league are saying it. The only ones not saying it are the ones who can’t (GM’s/coaches) but guess what? You damn sure know they’re thinking it.

This other guy had the audacity to say he’s worth more than a 5th overall pick. Guess what, I’ll tell you why he’s not worth that and I’ll spell it out because you guys are to naive and biased to see it for yourselves.


Frank isn’t an insider. That player vote is just jealousy because he got the promotion from the league. Bedard will be on the list next season.

I’ll tell you why you think he’s “bad” you want to fit in with the cool crowd and can’t think for yourself.
Feb. 7 at 2:21 p.m.
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Frank isn’t an insider. That player vote is just jealousy because he got the promotion from the league. Bedard will be on the list next season.

I’ll tell you why you think he’s “bad” you want to fit in with the cool crowd and can’t think for yourself.


No I actually watched the guy in a video from the offseason laugh about the thought of trying in defense. Was talking with the interviewer about the coaches emphasis on defense in practice and he very sarcastically said “yay defense” and laughed. He then proceeds to play no defense. A smack in the face to his head coach.

“Players around the league are jelly” No they’re not 12 year old girls. They’re pissed that this guy is getting recognition when he wasn’t put any work in, doesn’t care about winning and only cares about getting a clip on sports centre. That includes your GM who is trying to trade the guy after lowballing him in contract negotiations and not wanting to commit to him long term. He will 100% be traded and this is why. And if you think he’s worth more than a 5th overall pick like that other guy, the return will not make you happy.
Feb. 7 at 2:32 p.m.
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No I actually watched the guy in a video from the offseason laugh about the thought of trying in defense. Was talking with the interviewer about the coaches emphasis on defense in practice and he very sarcastically said “yay defense” and laughed. He then proceeds to play no defense. A smack in the face to his head coach.

“Players around the league are jelly” No they’re not 12 year old girls. They’re pissed that this guy is getting recognition when he wasn’t put any work in, doesn’t care about winning and only cares about getting a clip on sports centre. That includes your GM who is trying to trade the guy after lowballing him in contract negotiations and not wanting to commit to him long term. He will 100% be traded and this is why. And if you think he’s worth more than a 5th overall pick like that other guy, the return will not make you happy.


So you watched an offseason video and made up your mind? That’s worse than just trying to fit in with the cool kids.

He also won’t be traded unless ANA land 1OA.
Feb. 7 at 2:47 p.m.
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So you watched an offseason video and made up your mind? That’s worse than just trying to fit in with the cool kids.

He also won’t be traded unless ANA land 1OA.


No I watched an offseason video and it confirmed the obvious. It was everything else that sold me.

You can be in denial. That’s fine.
 
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