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Taking a shot

Created by: Habsfansince73
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 10, 2024
Published: Feb. 11, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
I don't know if the value of the trades are good so taking a shot here.
Trades
1.
ANA
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Farrell, Sean
  3. Ylönen, Jesse
  4. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
At TDL
2.
MTL
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (VAN)
3.
MTL
  1. 2025 2nd round pick (TBL)
  2. 2026 1st round pick (TBL)
4.
MTL
  1. 2024 4th round pick (COL)
5.
MTL
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Dvorak, Christian
Additional Details:
These players should be traded before the start of the next season.
6.
MTL
  1. 2025 7th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Pearson, Tanner
Additional Details:
Doesn't matter where but he will go at the TDL
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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Logo of the VAN
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the VAN
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Logo of the CHI
2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$60,370,416$1,170,000$4,117,500$23,129,584
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$885,000$885,000
C
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2

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Feb. 11 at 9:46 a.m.
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Mr.
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The 1st 3 trades are all very very very bad for MTL
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Feb. 11 at 9:46 a.m.
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and proud of it
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Avs need a center not a wing
Feb. 11 at 9:55 a.m.
#3
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If you can get the Avs to pay something for full cap Armia, I'll buy you a car.
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Feb. 11 at 10:06 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Canucks pass easily
Feb. 11 at 10:18 a.m.
#5
Miss YA Killer
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TB doesn't have the Cap next year for Matheson easy pass it would absolutely mean the end of Stamkos in TB. Probably Hedman too the year after.
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Feb. 11 at 10:23 a.m.
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Habs aren't trading their 1st at the trade deadline cause it could end up winning the lottery. The only way the Habs are trading that is at the draft when they are on the clock and all of Celebrini, Demidov, Eiserman and Lindstrom have been selected and Anaheim is only trading for it if Levshunov is still on the board
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Feb. 11 at 10:40 a.m.
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habs 1st is probbly too much
maybe win or cals first.
Feb. 11 at 10:42 a.m.
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Tampa Bay declines. Matheson might get a 1st and a 2nd, but not from Tampa. They can't afford another $5m LD come next season. And nobody is paying Montreal anything for Armia or Dvorak.
Feb. 11 at 10:59 a.m.
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MTL '24 1st (6th-10th range) + WPG '24 1st (~25th-32nd) on the draft floor for Zegras. Save the prospects we have for us.

Basically: Zegras, CGY '25 1st, WPG '27 3rd, & 74 games of SM for MTL '24 1st.
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Feb. 11 at 12:11 p.m.
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Drop the two forwards.

Quoting: Campabee
Habs aren't trading their 1st at the trade deadline cause it could end up winning the lottery. The only way the Habs are trading that is at the draft when they are on the clock and all of Celebrini, Demidov, Eiserman and Lindstrom have been selected and Anaheim is only trading for it if Levshunov is still on the board

This is the right deal.
Feb. 11 at 12:30 p.m.
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easy no from tampa
Feb. 11 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: SMH
The 1st 3 trades are all very very very bad for MTL


A 1st + 2nd for Matheson isn’t awful for Montreal

A 2nd + 3rd for full cap Savard isn’t awful for Montreal either. The Canucks would easily decline that
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Feb. 11 at 5:08 p.m.
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Mr.
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A 1st + 2nd for Matheson isn’t awful for Montreal

A 2nd + 3rd for full cap Savard isn’t awful for Montreal either. The Canucks would easily decline that


Yes it is, Matheson is a top pair D on a cheap contract, a late 1st won't bring a prospect anything close to his level of play
Feb. 11 at 5:21 p.m.
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Quoting: SMH
Yes it is, Matheson is a top pair D on a cheap contract, a late 1st won't bring a prospect anything close to his level of play


He’s not a top pair guy on a playoff team. More of a second pair guy. He’s a good skater and good on the PP, but isn’t good defensively and he doesn’t produce a whole lot offensively at 5v5 (70th among dmen in 5v5 points, 125th among dmen with 150+ minutes in 5v5 P/60)

His overall production would likely drop on a better team as there’s a very high chance he doesn’t get 25 minutes a game and I’m not sure how many playoff teams he’d realistically play on PP1 for
Feb. 11 at 5:24 p.m.
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Quoting: mv21227
He’s not a top pair guy on a playoff team. More of a second pair guy. He’s a good skater and good on the PP, but isn’t good defensively and he doesn’t produce a whole lot offensively at 5v5 (70th among dmen in 5v5 points, 125th among dmen with 150+ minutes in 5v5 P/60)

His overall production would likely drop on a better team as there’s a very high chance he doesn’t get 25 minutes a game and I’m not sure how many playoff teams he’d realistically play on PP1 for


He'd also play a different role against easier opponents so his offensive play will be available for him
Feb. 11 at 5:40 p.m.
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Quoting: SMH
He'd also play a different role against easier opponents so his offensive play will be available for him


Yeah his 5v5 production would likely go up because of that + playing with better players but I don’t think that would be enough to offset the loss of PP production. He’s a good 2nd pair guy and I think a 1st + 2nd would be fair value for Montreal
Feb. 11 at 5:41 p.m.
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Yeah his 5v5 production would likely go up because of that + playing with better players but I don’t think that would be enough to offset the loss of PP production. He’s a good 2nd pair guy and I think a 1st + 2nd would be fair value for Montreal


He's tied for 8th in D scoring so no a late 1st amd a late 2md isn't worth it for montreal, sorry bud
Feb. 11 at 6:05 p.m.
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He's tied for 8th in D scoring so no a late 1st amd a late 2md isn't worth it for montreal, sorry bud


Points aren’t everything for a dman. Just look at guys like Gostisbehere, Deangelo, and Barrie

Gostisbehere had 31 points in 52 games last season when he was traded for a 3rd round pick

Matheson’s numbers this season are a bit better (39 points in 52 games)

Based on that comparable one could say that a 1st + 2nd is an overpay for Matheson
Feb. 11 at 8:57 p.m.
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Avs decline. I like Armia's 'battle' but he's not a guy the Avs want or need.
 
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