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Make your best goalie offer

Created by: dgibb10
Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 16, 2024
Published: Feb. 16, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Allegedly, according to "sources", all of these pieces are on the table for a goalie. Make your best offer
Trades
1.
NJD
ANA
  1. Casey, Seamus [Reserve List]
  2. Daws, Nico
  3. Gritsyuk, Arseni [Reserve List]
  4. Hämeenaho, Lenni [Reserve List]
  5. Holtz, Alexander
  6. Mercer, Dawson
  7. Schmid, Akira
  8. Siegenthaler, Jonas
  9. Vanecek, Vitek
  10. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
  11. 2025 1st round pick (NJD)
  12. 2026 1st round pick (NJD)
2.
NJD
    gibson
    ANA
    3.
    NJD
      swayman
      BOS
      4.
      NJD
        UPL
        BUF
        5.
        NJD
          Montembault (or allen or primeau if you want)
          MTL
          6.
          NJD
            Saros
            NSH
            7.
            NJD
              Jarry
              PIT
              8.
              NJD
                LT
                VGK
                9.
                NJD
                  Binner
                  STL
                  10.
                  NJD
                    Ullmark
                    BOS
                    Buyouts
                    Recapture Fees
                    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
                    2024
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                    Logo of the NSH
                    2025
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                    Logo of the NJD
                    Logo of the NJD
                    Logo of the NJD
                    Logo of the NJD
                    2026
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                    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
                    20$83,500,000$63,528,333$422,500$4,175,000$19,971,667
                    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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                    $8,800,000$8,800,000
                    LW, RW
                    UFA - 8
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                    $8,000,000$8,000,000
                    C
                    UFA - 7
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                    $7,875,000$7,875,000
                    RW, LW
                    UFA - 8
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $6,000,000$6,000,000
                    LW, RW
                    NMC
                    UFA - 4
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $7,250,000$7,250,000
                    C
                    UFA - 4
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $2,125,000$2,125,000
                    RW, LW
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $1,000,000$1,000,000
                    LW, C
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $3,150,000$3,150,000
                    C, LW
                    NTC
                    UFA - 3
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $1,350,000$1,350,000
                    RW
                    UFA - 2
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $775,000$775,000
                    C
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $1,000,000$1,000,000
                    RW, C
                    UFA - 2
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $1,400,000$1,400,000
                    C
                    RFA - 1
                    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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                    $1,100,000$1,100,000
                    LD/RD, LW
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $4,400,000$4,400,000
                    RD
                    UFA - 4
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $1,050,000$1,050,000
                    LD
                    RFA - 2
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $1,850,000$1,850,000
                    RD
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
                    LD/RD
                    RFA - 2
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$3,250,000$3M)
                    RD
                    RFA - 3
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $762,500$762,500
                    RD
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $800,000$800,000
                    RD
                    RFA - 1
                    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                    $9,000,000$9,000,000
                    RD
                    NMC
                    UFA - 5

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                    Feb. 16 at 5:25 p.m.
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                    Sabres are NOT trading UPL
                    Not even for a 1st +

                    Just isn’t happening
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                    Feb. 16 at 5:26 p.m.
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                    Quoting: AntiAnalytics
                    Sabres are NOT trading UPL
                    Not even for a 1st +

                    Just isn’t happening


                    Not even if a team offered a defensively responsible young cost controlled shutdown RD…
                    Feb. 16 at 5:27 p.m.
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                    swayman isn't eligible to be traded this season - ullmark is though. talk about him. probably pretty close to no shot swayman gets moved.
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                    Feb. 16 at 5:27 p.m.
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                    I'll give you Allen for a 4th?
                    Feb. 16 at 5:29 p.m.
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                    Quoting: Bcarlo25
                    swayman isn't eligible to be traded this season - ullmark is though. talk about him. probably pretty close to no shot swayman gets moved.


                    I think we’ve come pretty close to a consensus of 1st+secondary pieces for Ullmark with bruins fans. But if there’s any sense of reality to what flames fans are claiming I’d go a lot higher than 1st+Schmid for Ullmark before going to Markstrom with those ridiculous asks of Mercer+++
                    Feb. 16 at 5:29 p.m.
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                    Quoting: Nick_SUCCzuki
                    I'll give you Allen for a 4th?


                    Retained or unretained?
                    Feb. 16 at 5:31 p.m.
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                    Quoting: dgibb10
                    Not even if a team offered a defensively responsible young cost controlled shutdown RD…


                    Nope
                    We’d have NO goalie then
                    Levi isn’t ready yet
                    Feb. 16 at 5:31 p.m.
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                    Quoting: dgibb10
                    I think we’ve come pretty close to a consensus of 1st+secondary pieces for Ullmark with bruins fans. But if there’s any sense of reality to what flames fans are claiming I’d go a lot higher than 1st+Schmid for Ullmark before going to Markstrom with those ridiculous asks of Mercer+++


                    sure. but you put in a guy that can't be traded. why?

                    also, it's an off-season conversation for boston. circle back in 24-25 on ullmark, 2030 on swayman.
                    Feb. 16 at 5:32 p.m.
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                    All of that + Nemec and a Stanley Cup Banner may be enough to make Flames fans happy to move Markstrom
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                    Feb. 16 at 5:33 p.m.
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                    Quoting: dgibb10
                    Retained or unretained?


                    Unretained
                    Feb. 16 at 5:34 p.m.
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                    Quoting: dgibb10
                    I think we’ve come pretty close to a consensus of 1st+secondary pieces for Ullmark with bruins fans. But if there’s any sense of reality to what flames fans are claiming I’d go a lot higher than 1st+Schmid for Ullmark before going to Markstrom with those ridiculous asks of Mercer+++


                    Flames fans have lost their minds
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                    Feb. 16 at 5:46 p.m.
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                    Quoting: Nick_SUCCzuki
                    Unretained


                    I think NJD would pass. From Kent Hughes recent comments seems like the market on Allen is really tough out there.
                    Feb. 16 at 5:51 p.m.
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                    Binner most likely isn't available, especially with a potential playoff push

                    Would take an extremely overpayment
                    Feb. 16 at 6:14 p.m.
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                    Quoting: Bcarlo25
                    swayman isn't eligible to be traded this season - ullmark is though. talk about him. probably pretty close to no shot swayman gets moved.


                    I wouldn't be happy moving Swayman without a return of both Hughes + Bahl.

                    Basically: "No. You can't have him."

                    (Note: I realize that's not his value. But there's no reason to move him)
                    Feb. 16 at 6:21 p.m.
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                    Allen (50%) and a 7th round pick for a 2025 3rd round pick.
                    Feb. 16 at 6:28 p.m.
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                    In season. No chance.

                    Off-season. You’ll have to offer sheet him. And you better go with an an AAV 8.6 or more or Boston matches.
                    Feb. 16 at 6:30 p.m.
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                    Quoting: Gofnut999
                    In season. No chance.

                    Off-season. You’ll have to offer sheet him. And you better go with an an AAV 8.6 or more or Boston matches.


                    Offer sheets beg for petty retaliation. Teams don’t do it for that reason.
                    Feb. 16 at 6:33 p.m.
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                    Quoting: dgibb10
                    Not even if a team offered a defensively responsible young cost controlled shutdown RD…


                    Not even, because then we'd have to go overpay to find our starting goalie....again lol. It's not a strong/deep enough position for the Sabres to entertain that kind of move.
                    Feb. 16 at 6:37 p.m.
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                    My god. I'm sick of these lazy ass agm's
                    Feb. 16 at 6:58 p.m.
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                    Quoting: BsInOttawa
                    I wouldn't be happy moving Swayman without a return of both Hughes + Bahl.

                    Basically: "No. You can't have him."

                    (Note: I realize that's not his value. But there's no reason to move him)


                    Thought I had Ullmark in there as well.

                    Although the absolute refusal to even consider picking Ullmark over Swayman, regardless of the gap in value you’ll recieve from trading the other, makes me question how much Ullmark is worth.
                    Feb. 16 at 6:58 p.m.
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                    Quoting: ht42
                    Allen (50%) and a 7th round pick for a 2025 3rd round pick.


                    I’d rather do that than the ridiculous Markstrom asks for sure
                    Feb. 16 at 6:59 p.m.
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                    Quoting: Gofnut999
                    In season. No chance.

                    Off-season. You’ll have to offer sheet him. And you better go with an an AAV 8.6 or more or Boston matches.


                    80% of arbitration players are gone within 2 years….

                    I’ve been hearing for a while that a swayman extension is imminent, but it has yet to materialize. Until then I’m going to speculate
                    Feb. 16 at 7:50 p.m.
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                    Quoting: Bcarlo25
                    swayman isn't eligible to be traded this season - ullmark is though. talk about him. probably pretty close to no shot swayman gets moved.


                    I thought I had ullmark in there as well. My mistake. Meant to include both
                    Feb. 16 at 7:56 p.m.
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                    Quoting: AntiAnalytics
                    Nope
                    We’d have NO goalie then
                    Levi isn’t ready yet


                    Quoting: Stadel
                    Not even, because then we'd have to go overpay to find our starting goalie....again lol. It's not a strong/deep enough position for the Sabres to entertain that kind of move.


                    It pains me, but I agree with my fellow Sabres fans. I'm not a believer that you need a great goalie, but you need an average one that gets hot at the right time- not spending high value assets to acquire nor huge contracts to keep. Our current management failed to acquire even average goaltending until upl grew into it. I'd prefer the skaters in front be upgraded to include more two way players and grit all over. But at the end of the day, I don't trust the gm to find a competent replacement.
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                    Feb. 16 at 8:04 p.m.
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                    Quoting: sabres89
                    It pains me, but I agree with my fellow Sabres fans. I'm not a believer that you need a great goalie, but you need an average one that gets hot at the right time- not spending high value assets to acquire nor huge contracts to keep. Our current management failed to acquire even average goaltending until upl grew into it. I'd prefer the skaters in front be upgraded to include more two way players and grit all over. But at the end of the day, I don't trust the gm to find a competent replacement.


                    What’s the timeline looking at on Levi being ready? The analytics say he’s been fine lately. Feels like a lot more of the issues stem from poor defensive play than a goalie issue.

                    LD is fine, although has definitely regressed this year with power, Dahlin, and Samuelson all taking a step back. But the forwards aren’t defensively responsible at ALL
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