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Feb. 19 at 10:20 a.m.
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The Tanev trade fully depends on whether Conroy and Calgary view Schmidt as a player or a cap dump.

Personally I'd rather not take him and view him as a dump but, I heard on HNIC a month or 2 back that Schmidt has very good advanced defensive analytics so maybe the Flames view him differently
Feb. 19 at 10:30 a.m.
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The Jets aren't giving up that much to Calgary to make a lateral move for a rental on defense. The idea is to add depth at the TDL, not mess with one of the best defenses in the league and not get better.

The Philly deal isn't realistic in any way.
Feb. 19 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: lowblocksniper
The Tanev trade fully depends on whether Conroy and Calgary view Schmidt as a player or a cap dump.

Personally I'd rather not take him and view him as a dump but, I heard on HNIC a month or 2 back that Schmidt has very good advanced defensive analytics so maybe the Flames view him differently


Chibrikov looks quite good in the AHL and that Habs pick will be around 40th overall, they'd be crazy to pass on this due to one year of Schmidt who's still a serviceable dman.
Feb. 19 at 10:41 a.m.
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Chibrikov looks quite good in the AHL and that Habs pick will be around 40th overall, they'd be crazy to pass on this due to one year of Schmidt who's still a serviceable dman.


Depends on what prospects other teams offer, Flames aren't hurting for Forwards, the need is more for defensive prospects
Feb. 19 at 10:59 a.m.
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The Tanev trade fully depends on whether Conroy and Calgary view Schmidt as a player or a cap dump.

Personally I'd rather not take him and view him as a dump but, I heard on HNIC a month or 2 back that Schmidt has very good advanced defensive analytics so maybe the Flames view him differently


About Schmidt:

He kills sheltered minutes with a young D partner, so he’s a good mentor for a team that will likely have a rookie defenceman in the lineup next season. Also, next season is the last year on his contract, so he can be flipped at next year’s deadline for futures. Lastly, he’s ALWAYS happy, positive and upbeat, so a great guy to have around for part of the rebuild/retool.

Also, Montreal’s 2nd will be an early pick in that round meaning it’s not that different from a late first round pick, so it’s already close to fair value for Tanev.

Chibrikov is there as a sweetener for taking Schmidt and his salary.

Also, if Tanev and Hanifin are traded away, Calgary will need to add a few capable NHL defencemen, and I think the Flames could do a lot worse than Schmidt given his contract status plus getting Chibrikov too.
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Feb. 19 at 11:14 a.m.
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The Jets aren't giving up that much to Calgary to make a lateral move for a rental on defense. The idea is to add depth at the TDL, not mess with one of the best defenses in the league and not get better.

The Philly deal isn't realistic in any way.


The Philly deal isn’t realistic in any way? Care to elaborate?

Both Seeler and Walker are reportedly available and Konecny is also supposed to be available if the Flyers are wowed by the offer.

Wagner for Seeler.

Lucius for Walker.

Perfetti, Rashevsky and Stanley for Konecny.

Pionk is there to make the money work. Also, the Flyers are trading two roster defencemen and one roster forward, and that’s what they’re getting back, plus three prospects.

What part isn’t realistic?
Feb. 19 at 11:26 a.m.
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Chibrikov looks quite good in the AHL and that Habs pick will be around 40th overall, they'd be crazy to pass on this due to one year of Schmidt who's still a serviceable dman.


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The Philly deal isn’t realistic in any way? Care to elaborate?

Both Seeler and Walker are reportedly available and Konecny is also supposed to be available if the Flyers are wowed by the offer.

Wagner for Seeler.

Lucius for Walker.

Perfetti, Rashevsky and Stanley for Konecny.

Pionk is there to make the money work. Also, the Flyers are trading two roster defencemen and one roster forward, and that’s what they’re getting back, plus three prospects.

What part isn’t realistic?
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The Jets aren't giving up that much to Calgary to make a lateral move for a rental on defense. The idea is to add depth at the TDL, not mess with one of the best defenses in the league and not get better.

The Philly deal isn't realistic in any way.



Also, I disagree swapping Tanev for Schmidt is a lateral move.

Schmidt struggles on the PK and that’s a Tanev strength. Tanev can also play higher up the roster whereas Schmidt is a (very good) bottom pair defenceman.

This also removes Schmidt’s salary from next year’s team which is when Scheifele and Hellebuyck’s raises on their new contracts begin.

Calgary gets a serviceable NHL defenceman who is overpaid for his role but with only one season remaining on his contract, plus an early 2nd round pick plus a very good forward prospect in Chibrikov, so it appears to me the deal works well for the Flames too.
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Feb. 19 at 11:48 a.m.
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Konecny is nice, but the Philly trade is an overpay. Walker is a UFA at season's end, and the return completely depletes the prospect pool. Philly is also surprisingly in contention, so other than dealing the pending UFA's, I don't think Philly would trade anything else. Konecny will be staying.
Feb. 19 at 11:56 a.m.
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The Philly deal isn’t realistic in any way? Care to elaborate?

Both Seeler and Walker are reportedly available and Konecny is also supposed to be available if the Flyers are wowed by the offer.

Wagner for Seeler.

Lucius for Walker.

Perfetti, Rashevsky and Stanley for Konecny.

Pionk is there to make the money work. Also, the Flyers are trading two roster defencemen and one roster forward, and that’s what they’re getting back, plus three prospects.

What part isn’t realistic?


Neither Walker or Seeker are worth what your are offering and aren't an improvement on anything the Jets currently have so who caress if they are available. They're 7/8D that in a perfect world without injuries you want to make healthy scratches.. It's a trade for the sake of making a trade

Konecny, while a very nice player, is only under contract for a little over a year and is a winger. He's a luxury not a need. There's no chance Winnipeg offers a young top 6 player and moves a top 4 RHD to get him. It gives the Jets another expensive top 6 winger while killing the depth and defense in the process. The Jets end up like Toronto, a few high end forwards with nothing to back them up.
Feb. 19 at 12:04 p.m.
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Also, I disagree swapping Tanev for Schmidt is a lateral move.

Schmidt struggles on the PK and that’s a Tanev strength. Tanev can also play higher up the roster whereas Schmidt is a (very good) bottom pair defenceman.

This also removes Schmidt’s salary from next year’s team which is when Scheifele and Hellebuyck’s raises on their new contracts begin.

Calgary gets a serviceable NHL defenceman who is overpaid for his role but with only one season remaining on his contract, plus an early 2nd round pick plus a very good forward prospect in Chibrikov, so it appears to me the deal works well for the Flames too.


It absolutely is a lateral move at best. Winnipeg has one of the best defenses in the league, Calgary doesn't. This isn't Tanev 5 years ago, it's Tanev now. He's an average bottom pairing defenseman. He doesn't make a difference, so why mess with one of the best defenses in the league.

He's also a 34 YO rental. Rentals don't return a comparable defenseman, a high 2nd that is basically a 1st and the team's top AHL prospect. It just doesn't happen and Tanev isn't breaking the norms.
Feb. 19 at 12:24 p.m.
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Neither Walker or Seeker are worth what your are offering and aren't an improvement on anything the Jets currently have so who caress if they are available. They're 7/8D that in a perfect world without injuries you want to make healthy scratches.. It's a trade for the sake of making a trade

Konecny, while a very nice player, is only under contract for a little over a year and is a winger. He's a luxury not a need. There's no chance Winnipeg offers a young top 6 player and moves a top 4 RHD to get him. It gives the Jets another expensive top 6 winger while killing the depth and defense in the process. The Jets end up like Toronto, a few high end forwards with nothing to back them up.


Walker is an upgrade over both Schmidt AND Pionk.

Seeler is an upgrade over Stanley, and he can play LD or RD, so he’s a perfect 7th defenceman.

Perfetti will potentially end up being replaced by Barlow and McGroarty. Perfetti’s lack of size and speed limit his ceiling. He thinks the game at an elite level and has tremendous vision and anticipation, but ideally he’s the third guy on a line with two big, fast and skilled players in order for that line to be effective as a scoring line.

I see Konecny as a huge upgrade for this season as a scoring winger who’s also around next season for the height on the Jets’ window to contend.

For these reasons, I would think the Jets make the trade if the Flyers are willing.
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Feb. 19 at 12:35 p.m.
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The Philly deal isn’t realistic in any way? Care to elaborate?

Both Seeler and Walker are reportedly available and Konecny is also supposed to be available if the Flyers are wowed by the offer.

Wagner for Seeler.

Lucius for Walker.

Perfetti, Rashevsky and Stanley for Konecny.

Pionk is there to make the money work. Also, the Flyers are trading two roster defencemen and one roster forward, and that’s what they’re getting back, plus three prospects.

What part isn’t realistic?


I don't think Konecny is getting moved anymore unless it's a vast overpay. Rumors have it he and management have spoken about an extension July 1 when he enters the last year of his deal.
I don't know much about the prospects you mentioned for Seeler and Walker, but it equates to a 1st and a 6th which isn't impossible to imagine. Flyers org would really have to like this Lucius kid
Feb. 19 at 1:18 p.m.
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About Schmidt:

He kills sheltered minutes with a young D partner, so he’s a good mentor for a team that will likely have a rookie defenceman in the lineup next season. Also, next season is the last year on his contract, so he can be flipped at next year’s deadline for futures. Lastly, he’s ALWAYS happy, positive and upbeat, so a great guy to have around for part of the rebuild/retool.

Also, Montreal’s 2nd will be an early pick in that round meaning it’s not that different from a late first round pick, so it’s already close to fair value for Tanev.

Chibrikov is there as a sweetener for taking Schmidt and his salary.

Also, if Tanev and Hanifin are traded away, Calgary will need to add a few capable NHL defencemen, and I think the Flames could do a lot worse than Schmidt given his contract status plus getting Chibrikov too.


Solid points, Flames could definitely do worse than Schmidt and they do need mentors to play with the young defenseman likely to come.
Not crazy about Chibrikov, 5'10 forward isn't really a need for Calgary, they need D prospects more than forwards

Also probably just a CapFriendly glitch but, did you send and delete the same message 8times because I got 8 notifications from you lol
Feb. 19 at 1:35 p.m.
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Walker is an upgrade over both Schmidt AND Pionk.

Seeler is an upgrade over Stanley, and he can play LD or RD, so he’s a perfect 7th defenceman.

Perfetti will potentially end up being replaced by Barlow and McGroarty. Perfetti’s lack of size and speed limit his ceiling. He thinks the game at an elite level and has tremendous vision and anticipation, but ideally he’s the third guy on a line with two big, fast and skilled players in order for that line to be effective as a scoring line.

I see Konecny as a huge upgrade for this season as a scoring winger who’s also around next season for the height on the Jets’ window to contend.

For these reasons, I would think the Jets make the trade if the Flyers are willing.


Disagree 100% on Wallet and Seeler. You've just got a case of the the "grass is always greener". Seeler is a plug, no better, no worse than Stanley, just older.

Walker is a marginal bottom pair guy that isn't an upgrade on anyone. I'd rather keep Schmidt, a guy that is part of one of the best defenses in the league as opposed to paying a high price and trying to force in a player and hoping he is marginally better. Its not worth the risk. A bottom pair defenseman isn't a difference maker to a playoff team. Pionk is light years ahead of Walker. You may not like Pionk, but Walker isn't anywhere close to being even half as useful as Pionk is. That's just a purely unrealistic bias against Pionk.

You might like Konecny and I like him too, but he most likely isn't available and there isn't even a slight chance the Jets consider moving Perfetti for him as is the improvement isn't enough to warrant the cost.
Feb. 19 at 2:23 p.m.
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Disagree 100% on Wallet and Seeler. You've just got a case of the the "grass is always greener". Seeler is a plug, no better, no worse than Stanley, just older.

Walker is a marginal bottom pair guy that isn't an upgrade on anyone. I'd rather keep Schmidt, a guy that is part of one of the best defenses in the league as opposed to paying a high price and trying to force in a player and hoping he is marginally better. Its not worth the risk. A bottom pair defenseman isn't a difference maker to a playoff team. Pionk is light years ahead of Walker. You may not like Pionk, but Walker isn't anywhere close to being even half as useful as Pionk is. That's just a purely unrealistic bias against Pionk.

You might like Konecny and I like him too, but he most likely isn't available and there isn't even a slight chance the Jets consider moving Perfetti for him as is the improvement isn't enough to warrant the cost.


Division 1 homer takes there buddy. Seeler >>>>>>>> Stanley and Walker >>>>>>>>> Schmidt
 
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