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You never ask a player to waive until you know you have a trade ready

Created by: sensonfire
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 23, 2024
Published: Feb. 23, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Flames GM Craig Conroy should be ashamed of himself.
Trades
1.
CGY
    "You never open your mouth until you know what the shot is ... "


    ----- Al Pacino in Glengarry Glen Ross


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFOA2ZoM7I
    NJD
      It's been about 2 weeks since the Calgary Flames asked Jacob Markstrom to waive his NMC for the New Jersey Devils.


      Only problem is that the Flames didn't have a trade ready for Markstrom.
      2.
      CGY
      1. Beecher, John
      2. Grzelcyk, Matt
      3. 2025 1st round pick (BOS)
      4. 2026 2nd round pick (BOS)
      Additional Details:
      2027 2nd round pick (BOS)
      BOS
      1. Hanifin, Noah ($2,425,000 retained)
      Additional Details:
      Hanifin signs for 6.5 million x 8 with Boston.
      3.
      CGY
      1. 2024 1st round pick (DAL)
      2. 2025 3rd round pick (DAL)
      DAL
      1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
      Retained Salary Transactions
      Buried
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2024
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      Logo of the CHI
      Logo of the CGY
      2025
      Logo of the FLA
      Logo of the BOS
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      Logo of the CGY
      Logo of the DAL
      Logo of the CGY
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      2026
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$83,500,000$78,539,166$0$212,500$4,960,834
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
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      $5,800,000$5,800,000
      RW, LW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
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      $5,350,000$5,350,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $4,900,000$4,900,000
      RW, LW
      NTC
      UFA - 4
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      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
      LW, C
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $7,000,000$7,000,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $775,000$775,000
      RW
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $10,500,000$10,500,000
      LW, RW
      NMC
      UFA - 8
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $3,100,000$3,100,000
      C, LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $5,500,000$5,500,000
      LW, RW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $863,333$863,333
      LW
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Boston Bruins
      $925,000$925,000
      C
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $825,000$825,000
      RW
      UFA - 2
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $6,250,000$6,250,000
      LD/RD
      NTC
      UFA - 8
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $4,550,000$4,550,000
      RD
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $4,125,000$4,125,000
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Boston Bruins
      $3,687,500$3,687,500
      LD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $775,000$775,000
      RD
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $2,200,000$2,200,000
      G
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $2,500,000$2,500,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $925,000$925,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $775,000$775,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $2,300,000$2,300,000
      LW, RW, C
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $762,500$762,500
      LD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $762,500$762,500
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1

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      Feb. 24 at 12:48 p.m.
      #26
      Bcarlo25
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      Roger that, homer.


      can you just not be so lame? the, "oh you don't agree with me about a players value so you're a homer," line is so tired and stupid.

      and what would the homerism be? this goes for any team trading for hanifin. Here is what's happening here. I'm looking at 20 years of trade history and trying to sort out what the market would dictate the asset is worth, and you're just saying it should unprecedented and then lashing out at others that have different opinions. it's lame.
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      Feb. 24 at 12:52 p.m.
      #27
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      Quoting: Bcarlo25
      can you just not be so lame? the, "oh you don't agree with me about a players value so you're a homer," line is so tired and stupid.

      and what would the homerism be? this goes for any team trading for hanifin. Here is what's happening here. I'm looking at 20 years of trade history and trying to sort out what the market would dictate the asset is worth, and you're just saying it should unprecedented and then lashing out at others that have different opinions. it's lame.


      tears of joy
      Feb. 24 at 1:06 p.m.
      #28
      Bcarlo25
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      tears of joy


      that's about the level of response i expected.
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      Feb. 27 at 12:01 a.m.
      #29
      Brad Boyes please Wq
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      1. So, there is truth to that.

      Good.

      If the Bruins managed to get Hanifin in 2015, they would have got an elite two-way defenseman instead of needing to watch Zboril turn into the highest picked bust of the 2015 draft.

      But that's water under the bridge ...



      2. I am really just comparing apples to apples. Lindholm is a better comp for Hanifin than Orlov.

      Calgary can have Forbort instead of Grzelcyk, but I could care less.

      And why does Hanifin deserve a Lindholm-like package ?

      Because Hanifin will sign an 8 year extension, he's of the same calibre, he was drafted about as high as Lindholm and he produces way more offensively on a weaker team.

      That's why.



      3. If Hanifin is moved to Boston, he'll became your new favourite toy.

      And you'll become a way bigger homer over Hanifin than you are right now.




      I’ve just quietly been around CF for a bit, but question? Why do you keep calling people homers? Especially BCarlo, that dude knows what he’s talking about. I agree with him here, while Hanifin is good yes, Hampus Lindholm was far more better then Hanifin from when he was dealt to now Hanifin,

      Bostons true need is more less stay back and develop young players, not trade away the young guys.
      Feb. 27 at 8:26 a.m.
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      Quoting: Stones6160
      I’ve just quietly been around CF for a bit, but question? Why do you keep calling people homers? Especially BCarlo, that dude knows what he’s talking about. I agree with him here, while Hanifin is good yes, Hampus Lindholm was far more better then Hanifin from when he was dealt to now Hanifin,

      Bostons true need is more less stay back and develop young players, not trade away the young guys.


      1. A homer is someone who is a fan of a particular team and thinks, "my players are way better than your players".

      I see homers all the time on this site, including from my own fanbase.

      When BCarlo said, "lindholm is in a different conversation in terms of what kind of player he is", that was a red flag.



      2. Boston's true need is more or less winning the Stanley Cup.

      Everything else is secondary.
      Feb. 27 at 8:23 p.m.
      #31
      Brad Boyes please Wq
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      1. A homer is someone who is a fan of a particular team and thinks, "my players are way better than your players".

      I see homers all the time on this site, including from my own fanbase.

      When BCarlo said, "lindholm is in a different conversation in terms of what kind of player he is", that was a red flag.



      2. Boston's true need is more or less winning the Stanley Cup.

      Everything else is secondary.



      Considering I believe he’s comparing TDL Lindholm to TDL Hanifin, he’d be right tbh, Lindholm (when healthy) is a much better defender then Hanifin, he’s not wrong when he states that Lindholm is in a different conversation then Hanifin tbh, I’m a Vegas fan and I don’t agree with Boston fans often, but he’s correct in my eyes
       
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