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Spitballing 2

Created by: Dom1422
Published: Feb. 24 at 3:01 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 54/192 (28%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because one of the teams exceeds the 23 player roster limit

Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDetroit Red Wings

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Määttä, OlliDetroit Red WingsNHL-$843,750011---4821012--
Berggren, JonatanWaivers ExemptDetroit Red WingsMinor-$0011---9235--
2026 3rd round pick (Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDET)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Krug, ToreySt. Louis BluesNHL-$1,828,125011---5622729--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Winnipeg JetsWPG)---100------
2024 2nd round pick (Logo of the St. Louis BluesSTL)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,000,2382346773613
Change-$984,3750-1-1100
Final$2,015,863 (↓)2345 (↓)76 (↓)4 (↑)613-21412

Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMontreal Canadiens

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Matheson, MichaelMontreal CanadiensNHL-$4,875,000011---5783442--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Winnipeg JetsWPG)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Määttä, OlliDetroit Red WingsNHL-$3,000,000011---4821012--
Buchnevich, PavelSt. Louis BluesNHL-$5,800,000011---54222446--
2026 3rd round pick (Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDET)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$5,654,1672346725916
Change-$3,925,000111-110
Final$1,729,167 (↓)24 (↑)47 (↑)73 (↑)4 (↓)10 (↑)1616016

Logo of the St. Louis BluesSt. Louis Blues

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Krug, ToreySt. Louis BluesNHL-$6,500,000011---5622729--
Buchnevich, PavelSt. Louis BluesNHL-$5,800,000011---54222446--
2024 2nd round pick (Logo of the St. Louis BluesSTL)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Matheson, MichaelMontreal CanadiensNHL-$4,875,000011---5783442--
Berggren, JonatanWaivers ExemptDetroit Red WingsMinor-$0011---9235--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$7,262,5002347683811
Change$7,425,000-1000-10
Final$14,687,500 (↑)22 (↓)476837 (↓)11-14-14-28
Feb. 24 at 3:10 p.m.
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Again, Detroit doesn't want or need Torey Krug.
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Feb. 24 at 3:13 p.m.
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Quoting: WingsMJN2965
Again, Detroit doesn't want or need Torey Krug.


Says who? Adding Krug is exactly what Yzerman would do. They actually could use Krug with Gostisbhere leaving, but more importantly they would basically be getting a 1st and 2nd round pick to do it.
Feb. 24 at 3:14 p.m.
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Says who? Adding Krug is exactly what Yzerman would do.


Says the guy watching Simon Edvinsson still sitting in the AHL because Detroit's LHD is clogged.

Krug's a midget LHD who generates 40% of his points on the PP and is mediocre to downright bad in his own end. We don't need a more-expensive Ghost.
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Feb. 24 at 3:17 p.m.
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Says the guy watching Simon Edvinsson still sitting in the AHL because Detroit's LHD is clogged.


And Yzerman is doing that purposefully no? So why are you so confident he won’t continue to do that? You’re a fan, what you want to happen is rarely what happens. Take Berggren for example. Should’ve been in the nhl long before now, and he still isn’t. That’s Yzerman’s MO.

But if we’re being honest even after this deal Edvinsson can make the nhl. Chiarot can play the right side like he has done many times in the past.
Feb. 24 at 3:18 p.m.
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I can assure you Detroit won't be doing this!!!
Feb. 24 at 3:21 p.m.
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I can assure you Detroit won't be doing this!!!


Actually you can’t assure me of that. This is a typical Yzerman move.
Feb. 24 at 3:26 p.m.
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And Yzerman is doing that purposefully no? So why are you so confident he won’t continue to do that? You’re a fan, what you want to happen is rarely what happens. Take Berggren for example. Should’ve been in the nhl long before now, and he still isn’t. That’s Yzerman’s MO.

But if we’re being honest even after this deal Edvinsson can make the nhl. Chiarot can play the right side like he has done many times in the past.


Man who pretends to know exactly how Yzerman thinks says "Chiarot can play the right side like he's done many times in the past", even though Yzerman has gone on record saying he doesn't like D playing off-hand...

Also, since you probably started replying before my edit... Krug's a midget LHD who generates 40% of his points on the PP and is mediocre to downright bad in his own end. We don't need a more-expensive Ghost.
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Feb. 24 at 3:30 p.m.
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Quoting: WingsMJN2965
Man who pretends to know exactly how Yzerman thinks says "Chiarot can play the right side like he's done many times in the past", even though Yzerman has gone on record saying he doesn't like D playing off-hand...

Also, since you probably started replying before my edit... Krug's a midget LHD who generates 40% of his points on the PP and is mediocre to downright bad in his own end. We don't need a more-expensive Ghost.


My guy you’re talking about not need another Ghost but who signed him? Yzerman. Who signed Chiarot to a ridiculously stupid contract, Yzerman. Who brought in the hometown guy who is terrible defensively in Petry, Yzerman. Who is leaving Edvinsson in the ahl, Yzerman, who left Berggren there to long and now has to trade him, Yzerman lol. He does the exact opposite of what you think he should do. Think about that.

What you want then to do or think they should/should not do is irrelevant. Try to think like he would think. How you think is the opposite of how he thinks.
Feb. 24 at 3:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Dom1422
And Yzerman is doing that purposefully no? So why are you so confident he won’t continue to do that? You’re a fan, what you want to happen is rarely what happens. Take Berggren for example. Should’ve been in the nhl long before now, and he still isn’t. That’s Yzerman’s MO.

But if we’re being honest even after this deal Edvinsson can make the nhl. Chiarot can play the right side like he has done many times in the past.


Quoting: WingsMJN2965
Says the guy watching Simon Edvinsson still sitting in the AHL because Detroit's LHD is clogged.

Krug's a midget LHD who generates 40% of his points on the PP and is mediocre to downright bad in his own end. We don't need a more-expensive Ghost.


That isn't the only reason Yzerman wanted the majority of Detroit's young core to develop and find success as a unit. It makes the transition to the NHL much easier when you are already have chemistry with your teammates. Now it didn't seem to be working at first but since Berggren last trip to the NHL he and the Griffins have been on fire. Yzerman just had to get Berggren and Edvinsson to buy in to the plan and I'd say it is working.
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Feb. 24 at 3:34 p.m.
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Quoting: WingsMJN2965
Man who pretends to know exactly how Yzerman thinks says "Chiarot can play the right side like he's done many times in the past", even though Yzerman has gone on record saying he doesn't like D playing off-hand...

Also, since you probably started replying before my edit... Krug's a midget LHD who generates 40% of his points on the PP and is mediocre to downright bad in his own end. We don't need a more-expensive Ghost.


Btw this would be an offseason move, just want to be clear on that.

You would essentially be swapping Maata and Ghost for Edvinsson and Krug for next season. You couldn’t see him doing that? Well I could, because im using past moves to justify these ones, you’re just using your feelings which have never aligned with what Yzerman actually ends up doing.
Feb. 24 at 3:34 p.m.
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My guy you’re talking about not need another Ghost but who signed him? Yzerman. Who signed Chiarot to a ridiculously stupid contract, Yzerman. Who brought in the hometown guy who is terrible defensively in Petry, Yzerman. Who is leaving Edvinsson in the ahl, Yzerman, who left Berggren there to long and now has to trade him, Yzerman lol. He does the exact opposite of what you think he should do. Think about that.

What you want then to do or think they should/should not do is irrelevant. Try to think like he would think. How you think is the opposite of how he thinks.


"My guy you are talking about not needing another Ghost but who signed him."

What part of "Another" didn't make sense?

I didn't even read the rest of that **** lol. We don't want Krug. We don't need Krug. Get over it and make a two way trade work with MTL/STL if you want it that bad.
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Feb. 24 at 3:35 p.m.
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That isn't the only reason Yzerman wanted the majority of Detroit's young core to develop and find success as a unit. It makes the transition to the NHL much easier when you are already have chemistry with your teammates. Now it didn't seem to be working at first but since Berggren last trip to the NHL he and the Griffins have been on fire. Yzerman just had to get Berggren and Edvinsson to buy in to the plan and I'd say it is working.


Bro Berggren refused to sign a contract extension a couple days ago. He’s demanding a trade.. what’s working?
Feb. 24 at 3:36 p.m.
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"My guy you are talking about not needing another Ghost but who signed him."

What part of "Another" didn't make sense?

I didn't even read the rest of that **** lol. We don't want Krug. We don't need Krug. Get over it and make a two way trade work with MTL/STL if you want it that bad.


“Another” this would be an offseason trade. Ghost will be a free agent. He won’t be on the team anymore. You can look at Krug as being the replacement. But again the major factor is they get a 1st and 2nd to take him. That would be the biggest reason to do it.
Feb. 24 at 3:37 p.m.
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“Another” this would be an offseason trade. Ghost will be a free agent.


You ever watch that movie, "She's Just Not That Into You?"
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Feb. 24 at 3:40 p.m.
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Bro Berggren refused to sign a contract extension a couple days ago. He’s demanding a trade.. what’s working?


Berggren rejected a contract. He hasn't demanded a trade. Get the story straight. He wants in the NHL. (And at almost 24, he's justified in that)
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Feb. 24 at 3:41 p.m.
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You ever watch that movie, "She's Just Not That Into You?"


If Yzerman was into Petry, he’ll definitely be into hometown guy Torrey Krug. You can bank on it.

Hell if he was into giving Chiarot 6 mill, he’ll be into Krug. Or giving Ghost 4.5, he’ll be into Krug.

Just accept that your views don’t align with the GM of your favorite team. It’s unfortunate but there will be many more moves he makes that you will not like.
Feb. 24 at 3:42 p.m.
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Berggren rejected a contract. He hasn't demanded a trade. Get the story straight. He wants in the NHL. (And at almost 24, he's justified in that)


What do you think rejecting a contract is? He wants out, he’s been in trade rumours for months. He’s gone, 100% guaranteed. Its a matter of when not if.
Feb. 24 at 3:47 p.m.
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If Yzerman was into Petry, he’ll definitely be into hometown guy Torrey Krug. You can bank on it.

Hell if he was into giving Chiarot 6 mill, he’ll be into Krug. Or giving Ghost 4.5, he’ll be into Krug.

Just accept that your views don’t align with the GM of your favorite team. It’s unfortunate but there will be many more moves he makes that you will not like.


Petry didn't cost $6M and Detroit doesn't have a RHD prospect knocking down the doors within the duration of his contract. Also, Chiarot doesn't make $6M lol.

Keep trying, though.
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Feb. 24 at 3:48 p.m.
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Berggren rejected a contract. He hasn't demanded a trade. Get the story straight. He wants in the NHL. (And at almost 24, he's justified in that)


Btw I don’t remember which one of you said it but the whole Yzerman doesn’t like D playing on their off side, Ghost is a left handed D playing the right side right now… That’s a terrible excuse as to why they wouldn’t do this.
Feb. 24 at 3:48 p.m.
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What do you think rejecting a contract is? He wants out, he’s been in trade rumours for months. He’s gone, 100% guaranteed. Its a matter of when not if.


What do you not understand about "He wants to play in the NHL"?
Feb. 24 at 3:50 p.m.
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Petry didn't cost $6M and Detroit doesn't have a RHD prospect knocking down the doors within the duration of his contract. Also, Chiarot doesn't make $6M lol.

Keep trying, though.


One of the left D can play the right side (like Ghost is doing right now). Edvinsson can still make the league (Not convinced Yzerman won’t leave him in the ahl again though and neither are you). You have to keep trying, and try harder. You’re reasoning as to why they won’t do this comes from your personal feelings alone.
Feb. 24 at 3:50 p.m.
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Actually you can’t assure me of that. This is a typical Yzerman move.


This has been Yzerman's plan and he has said multiple times that he wants the majority of the prospects to develop as a team. Why do you think he chose to fill out the roster with UFAs for the last 2 seasons? You don't add players like Holl and Ghost to a defense that already has Chariot and Maatta and expect to make the playoffs. Ghost is having a very good season but based on his last couple of seasons you wouldn't except him to play like he has. Now the Debrincat and Petry trades happened after the UFA additions. But ha has stuck to his plan and only called up Berggren and Edvinsson when absolutely necessary. He has brought up players like Luff and Czarnik (who are both career AHLers) before Berggren. Rolling with 7 dmen has ensured that Edvinsson wouldn't be needed. Look at it however you want but keeping them in the AHL was a planned and calculated move and it's very hard to deny that wasn't the plan all along!
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Feb. 24 at 3:51 p.m.
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One of the left D can play the right side (like Ghost is doing right now). Edvinsson can still make the league (Not convinced Yzerman won’t leave him in the ahl again though and neither are you). You have to keep trying, and try harder. You’re reasoning as to why they won’t do this comes from your personal feelings alone.


"My are reasoning" is because we're not trading for a midget PP reliant D who sucks in his own end to block Edvinsson.

You'll catch on one day.
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This has been Yzerman's plan and he has said multiple times that he wants the majority of the prospects to develop as a team. Why do you think he chose to fill out the roster with UFAs for the last 2 seasons? You don't add players like Holl and Ghost to a defense that already has Chariot and Maatta and expect to make the playoffs. Ghost is having a very good season but based on his last couple of seasons you wouldn't except him to play like he has. Now the Debrincat and Petry trades happened after the UFA additions. But ha has stuck to his plan and only called up Berggren and Edvinsson when absolutely necessary. He has brought up players like Luff and Czarnik (who are both career AHLers) before Berggren. Rolling with 7 dmen has ensured that Edvinsson wouldn't be needed. Look at it however you want but keeping them in the AHL was a planned and calculated move and it's very hard to deny that wasn't the plan all along!


I don’t even know what you’re arguing. Everything you just wrote actually supports my claim that Yzerman would do this deal, not that he woukdnt.
Feb. 24 at 3:53 p.m.
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Dude is fighting for his life defending a take that Yzerman would want a 32 y/o LD contracted for 4 more years while Edvinsson and Johansson are being overripened in the AHL because of the crowded LD room 😭
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