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Guentzel

Created by: Jukinators
Team: 2023-24 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 4, 2024
Published: Mar. 4, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
PIT
  1. Howard, Isaac [Reserve List]
  2. Huuhtanen, Niko [Reserve List]
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (TBL)
  4. 2025 2nd round pick (TBL)
  5. 2026 1st round pick (TBL)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$79,716,665$0$137,500$3,783,335
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 8
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,665,000$2,665,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
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UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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$870,000$870,000 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
RD
UFA - 8
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$775,000$775,000
G
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 8
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$776,665$776,665
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW
RFA - 1

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Mar. 4 at 9:07 p.m.
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Trading away our future again is not a good idea. Guentzel doesnt fix our main issue in that terrible defence.
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Mar. 4 at 9:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Maniaked
Trading away our future again is not a good idea. Guentzel doesnt fix our main issue in that terrible defence.


Ik just for fun. I like looking back at ACGM’s to see how close I can get value wise compared to what actually happened. If we were to get a top 6 foward they have to be right handed. Especially if they force stammer out
Mar. 4 at 9:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Jukinators
Ik just for fun. I like looking back at ACGM’s to see how close I can get value wise compared to what actually happened. If we were to get a top 6 foward they have to be right handed. Especially if they force stammer out


I agree but Guetzel with Point and Kuch would be unstoppable. JBB does not care about the future it seems like so maybe your trade will happen lol.
Mar. 4 at 9:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Maniaked
I agree but Guetzel with Point and Kuch would be unstoppable. JBB does not care about the future it seems like so maybe your trade will happen lol.


I don’t think stacking up the 1st line is ever gonna work. Kuch and point need someone willing to do the dirty work for them to fly, hagel is perfect for that. Plus scoring from line 2 could help this team finally be independent from only power play success
Mar. 4 at 9:20 p.m.
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Dubas said he wants prospects, not picks.

The bolts do not have prospects.
Mar. 4 at 9:22 p.m.
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Quoting: pens1991
Dubas said he wants prospects, not picks.

The bolts do not have prospects.


Issac Howard and Niko are 2 great prospects
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Mar. 4 at 9:32 p.m.
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Issac Howard and Niko are 2 great prospects


7th rounder, what a stud.
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Mar. 4 at 9:39 p.m.
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Quoting: pens1991
Dubas said he wants prospects, not picks.

The bolts do not have prospects.


Dubas will still accept picks guarenteed. Howard is a first round pick prospect here. This package is more than enough.
Mar. 4 at 9:52 p.m.
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Dubas will still accept picks guarenteed. Howard is a first round pick prospect here. This package is more than enough.


No it is not. It's a terrible offer and easily beaten by multiple teams.
Mar. 4 at 10:18 p.m.
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Quoting: pens1991
7th rounder, what a stud.


Cause that’s all he’ll ever be
Mar. 4 at 11:13 p.m.
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Quoting: pens1991
7th rounder, what a stud.


By that logic well give an our 3rd round pick this year for Guentzel. Take it or leave it that’s all you’re getting.
Mar. 5 at 1:56 p.m.
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By that logic well give an our 3rd round pick this year for Guentzel. Take it or leave it that’s all you’re getting.


The logic is that the penguins want high end prospects that can be impactful now. Maybe he'll be great in 4 years or so, but he's not teetering on the edge of being a regular in the NHL.

Someone drafted in the 7th round that's still playing in Europe is not going to fit that mold. He's probably a top prospect in the bolts org because their pool is as bad as the penguins, but this is a total joke of an offer.
 
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