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GM Game- San Jose Sharks

Created by: TopCornerShot
Team: 2017-18 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 18, 2017
Published: Jul. 18, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Bonus Overage: $235,000
CONTACT ME WITH OFFERS AT: TopCornerShot99@Twitter
Or TopCornerShot99@mail.com
Unsigned RFA's
Jonathan Ang
Jonas Seigenthaler
Troy Terry

Please inquire for more prospects, I have guys as RFA's from SJ's 2016 and 2015 drafts as well as the 5 or so players the previous GM drafted in the 2017 Rookie Draft.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Zaar, Daniel
2$750,000
Pouliot, Benoit
2$4,000,000
Samsonov, Ilya
3$925,000
Keller, Clayton
3$925,000
(D), Casey Mittelstadt
3$925,000
Trades
1.
SJS
    Tomas Tatar.
    DET
    1. Hertl, Tomas
    2. 2019 3rd round pick (SJS)
    2.
    SJS
    1. Pouliot, Derrick
    Additional Details:
    5th 2017.
    PIT
      David Schlemko.
      3.
      4.
      DET
      1. Tierney, Chris
      2. 2018 4th round pick (SJS)
      5.
      DET
      1. Boedker, Mikkel
      2. 2019 4th round pick (SJS)
      Additional Details:
      Michael Haley.
      6.
      SJS
      1. Bäckström, Nicklas
      2. Wilson, Tom
      3. 2018 3rd round pick (WSH)
      WSH
      1. Couture, Logan
      2. Ward, Joel
      Additional Details:
      2017 1st.
      7.
      8.
      9.
      SJS
        Devante Smith Pelly.
        ARI
        1. 2018 3rd round pick (WSH)
        2. 2019 7th round pick (SJS)
        Additional Details:
        2017 6th.
        10.
        SJS
          apparently nothing.
          LAK
          1. Jones, Martin
          Additional Details:
          2017 1st CBJ
          Markus Sorensen
          11.
          SJS
            Bjugstad @ 25%.
            Lawson Crouse.
            Jon Merrill.
            Jimmy Hayes.
            DET
            1. Pavelski, Joe
            2. 2019 2nd round pick (SJS)
            Additional Details:
            Goodrow.
            Dauphin.
            12.
            EDM
            1. Martin, Paul
            2. 2018 5th round pick (SJS)
            Additional Details:
            Mantas Armalis.
            13.
            SJS
            1. 2018 7th round pick (COL)
            14.
            SJS
            1. Caggiula, Drake
            Additional Details:
            Trade made with Columbus.
            EDM
              Lawson Crouse.
              15.
              SJS
              1. McKenzie, Curtis
              2. 2018 4th round pick (DAL)
              DAL
                Devante Smith Pelly.
                16.
                SJS
                1. Karlsson, William
                Additional Details:
                2017 7th CBJ.
                17.
                BOS
                1. 2020 2nd round pick (SJS)
                Additional Details:
                Nick Bjugstad.
                18.
                SJS
                1. Abdelkader, Justin ($999,982 retained)
                Additional Details:
                Deal Made with Arizona.
                DET
                1. Dillon, Brenden
                Additional Details:
                2017 7th SJ.
                19.
                SJS
                  2018 1st STL
                  Zadorov.
                  Killorn.
                  Malgin.
                  PHI
                  1. Carlson, John
                  Additional Details:
                  Jevpalovs.

                  Deal made with Detroit.
                  20.
                  SJS
                  1. 2018 3rd round pick (OTT)
                  Additional Details:
                  Sonny Milano.
                  OTT
                    Kevin Hayes.

                    Deal made with Detroit.
                    21.
                    SJS
                    1. Larsson, Jacob
                    Additional Details:
                    2017 3rd
                    2017 5th
                    22.
                    SJS
                      2017 3rd OTT
                      CAR
                        UFA Joe Thornton's Rights.
                        23.
                        SJS
                        1. Gauthier, Julien
                        2. Poturalski, Andrew
                        3. 2018 2nd round pick (CAR)
                        4. 2019 3rd round pick (CAR)
                        Additional Details:
                        Clayton Keller.
                        24.
                        SJS
                          2018 2nd DET.
                          2017 3rd Bos.
                          2017 5th VGK.
                          2018 5th CBJ
                          2018 5th ANA.
                          CBJ
                          1. Sekera, Andrej ($2,750,000 retained)
                          25.
                          SJS
                          1. 2018 2nd round pick (DET)
                          DET
                          26.
                          SJS
                          1. 2018 5th round pick (ANA)
                          ANA
                          27.
                          SJS
                          1. Jarry, Tristan
                          2. Sprong, Daniel
                          Additional Details:
                          2017 3rd Pitt.
                          PIT
                            Jonathan Quick.
                            28.
                            SJS
                            1. Vigneault, Sam
                            Additional Details:
                            Benoit Pouliot.
                            Daniel Zaar.
                            CBJ
                              2017 5th Pit.
                              29.
                              SJS
                              1. Sanford, Zachary
                              Additional Details:
                              2017 1st Van.
                              2017 3rd TOR
                              STL
                              1. Backes, David ($2,000,000 retained)
                              2. Gauthier, Julien
                              3. 2018 1st round pick (SJS)
                              Additional Details:
                              2017 3rd TOR
                              30.
                              SJS
                              1. Vrána, Jakub
                              Additional Details:
                              Ilya Sampsonov.
                              Laurent Dauphin.
                              Andreas Athanasiou 1M retained.
                              Jonas Sigenthaler.
                              31.
                              SJS
                              1. Markström, Jacob
                              Additional Details:
                              Trade with Pittsburg.
                              VAN
                              1. Dell, Aaron
                              2. Vigneault, Sam
                              3. 2018 7th round pick (COL)
                              Additional Details:
                              2017 3rd Bos
                              32.
                              SJS
                                2017 5th EDM
                                CBJ
                                  UFA rights of Patrick Marleau.
                                  33.
                                  SJS
                                  1. 2020 7th round pick (ANA)
                                  Additional Details:
                                  Troy Terry.
                                  Clayton Stoner.
                                  ANA
                                  1. 2020 7th round pick (SJS)
                                  34.
                                  SJS
                                  1. Pulock, Ryan
                                  Additional Details:
                                  Jonathan Ang.
                                  Jonathan Ericsson.
                                  35.
                                  DET
                                    Part of the deal above.
                                    36.
                                    SJS
                                    1. Bracco, Jeremy
                                    2. Marner, Mitchell
                                    Additional Details:
                                    JD Greenway.
                                    TOR
                                    1. Hansen, Jannik
                                    2. Pouliot, Derrick
                                    3. Sprong, Daniel
                                    Additional Details:
                                    2018 1st STL.
                                    Andreas Athanasiou.
                                    Jon Merrill.
                                    37.
                                    SJS
                                    1. Fehr, Eric
                                    2. Valiev, Rinat
                                    Additional Details:
                                    2018 5th Detroit.
                                    TOR
                                    1. 2018 5th round pick (ANA)
                                    38.
                                    SJS
                                    1. Grundström, Carl
                                    Additional Details:
                                    Oliver Kylington.
                                    TOR
                                      Laurent Dauphin.
                                      Nikita Zadorov.
                                      Alex Killorn.
                                      39.
                                      CGY
                                        Part of the deal above.
                                        40.
                                        SJS
                                        1. Goldobin, Nikolay
                                        2. Juolevi, Olli
                                        3. 2018 1st round pick (VAN)
                                        4. 2019 1st round pick (VAN)
                                        41.
                                        42.
                                        43.
                                        SJS
                                          This trade didn't happen, it's just that I don't have his rights or his contract, so he needs to be moved off the team to see my real cap hit.
                                          44.
                                          TBL
                                            2017 5th.
                                            2017 7th.
                                            45.
                                            SJS
                                              Somehow I missed a trade and I don't have Milano anymore. Stay tuned for the complete deal.
                                              46.
                                              SJS
                                                Max Domi.
                                                Brock Nelson.
                                                Cody Ceci.
                                                2018 2nd FLA.
                                                2018 4th WPG
                                                2019 4th EDM
                                                2019 6th EDM
                                                47.
                                                ARI
                                                  Above Deal.
                                                  48.
                                                  OTT
                                                    Above Deal.
                                                    49.
                                                    NYI
                                                      Above Deal
                                                      50.
                                                      SJS
                                                      1. 2018 2nd round pick (FLA)
                                                      WSH
                                                        Above deal.
                                                        51.
                                                        SJS
                                                        1. 2018 4th round pick (WPG)
                                                        WPG
                                                          Above deal.
                                                          52.
                                                          SJS
                                                          1. 2019 4th round pick (EDM)
                                                          2. 2019 6th round pick (EDM)
                                                          EDM
                                                            Above deal.
                                                            53.
                                                            SJS
                                                              2019 2nd Pit
                                                              Andrew Copp
                                                              54.
                                                              SJS
                                                              1. 2019 2nd round pick (PIT)
                                                              PIT
                                                                Trade above
                                                                55.
                                                                WPG
                                                                  Trade Above
                                                                  56.
                                                                  BOS
                                                                  1. Pouliot, Benoit
                                                                  2. Vrána, Jakub
                                                                  3. 2019 3rd round pick (CAR)
                                                                  57.
                                                                  SJS
                                                                    Changing Cap Hit. This trade didn't happen, Abdelkader is mine, just at a different hit than I originally thought.
                                                                    58.
                                                                    SJS
                                                                    1. Abdelkader, Justin ($1,000,000 retained)
                                                                    DET
                                                                      Fixed Abdelkader's Cap Hit.
                                                                      59.
                                                                      SJS
                                                                        Nic Petan.
                                                                        FLA
                                                                        1. 2019 6th round pick (SJS)
                                                                        Additional Details:
                                                                        Sonny Milano.
                                                                        60.
                                                                        WPG
                                                                          Trade Above that was missed.
                                                                          61.
                                                                          SJS
                                                                            Bollig is an UFA.
                                                                            62.
                                                                            SJS
                                                                            1. 2018 5th round pick (CBJ)
                                                                            CHI
                                                                              Andrea Sekera Trade.... Finding more picks that fell through the cracks.
                                                                              63.
                                                                              SJS
                                                                              1. 2018 5th round pick (DET)
                                                                              DET
                                                                                In the Valiev / Fehr Deal.
                                                                                64.
                                                                                NJD
                                                                                  I still have him.
                                                                                  65.
                                                                                  SJS
                                                                                    I never had him in this game.
                                                                                    66.
                                                                                    SJS
                                                                                      Not sure how I lost him when he's on my team and NHL transactions don't have him re-signed after this game started.
                                                                                      67.
                                                                                      SJS
                                                                                        Signed as a UFA.
                                                                                        68.
                                                                                        SJS
                                                                                        1. Koivu, Mikko
                                                                                        Additional Details:
                                                                                        Deal with MTL.
                                                                                        2018 3rd Van
                                                                                        2019 7th Pitt
                                                                                        MIN
                                                                                        1. Malgin, Denis
                                                                                        2. 2018 5th round pick (CBJ)
                                                                                        69.
                                                                                        SJS
                                                                                        1. 2018 3rd round pick (VAN)
                                                                                        VAN
                                                                                          Above Deal.
                                                                                          70.
                                                                                          SJS
                                                                                          1. 2019 7th round pick (PIT)
                                                                                          PIT
                                                                                            Above Deal.
                                                                                            71.
                                                                                            SJS
                                                                                              Alex Killorn
                                                                                              Adam McQuaid
                                                                                              MIN
                                                                                              1. Zaar, Daniel
                                                                                              2. McKenzie, Curtis
                                                                                              3. 2018 2nd round pick (CAR)
                                                                                              4. 2018 4th round pick (DAL)
                                                                                              72.
                                                                                              TBL
                                                                                                Above Trade.
                                                                                                73.
                                                                                                BOS
                                                                                                  Above Trade.
                                                                                                  74.
                                                                                                  SJS
                                                                                                  1. Miller, Kevan
                                                                                                  Additional Details:
                                                                                                  Trade with Dallas
                                                                                                  2019 3rd STL
                                                                                                  2020 2nd Dal
                                                                                                  BOS
                                                                                                  1. Copp, Andrew
                                                                                                  2. 2019 1st round pick (SJS)
                                                                                                  75.
                                                                                                  SJS
                                                                                                  1. 2020 2nd round pick (DAL)
                                                                                                  VGK
                                                                                                    Above Trade.
                                                                                                    76.
                                                                                                    SJS
                                                                                                    1. 2019 3rd round pick (STL)
                                                                                                    STL
                                                                                                      Above Trade.
                                                                                                      77.
                                                                                                      SJS
                                                                                                        Was signed after game started, I don't have him.
                                                                                                        78.
                                                                                                        SJS
                                                                                                          Never had him in the game, but he was on the roster.
                                                                                                          79.
                                                                                                          SJS
                                                                                                          1. Strome, Dylan
                                                                                                          Additional Details:
                                                                                                          Ryan Murray.
                                                                                                          ARI
                                                                                                          80.
                                                                                                          CBJ
                                                                                                            Above Trade.
                                                                                                            81.
                                                                                                            SJS
                                                                                                            1. McLeod, Cody
                                                                                                            Additional Details:
                                                                                                            DB7 And I missed this trade.
                                                                                                            82.
                                                                                                            SJS
                                                                                                              Expansion Pick.
                                                                                                              83.
                                                                                                              SJS
                                                                                                                Victor Rask
                                                                                                                NSH
                                                                                                                1. Koivu, Mikko
                                                                                                                Additional Details:
                                                                                                                JD Greenway's RFA Rights
                                                                                                                84.
                                                                                                                CAR
                                                                                                                  Trade Above.
                                                                                                                  85.
                                                                                                                  SJS
                                                                                                                    Compensation for Pick I traded yet never had.
                                                                                                                    MIN
                                                                                                                    1. 2018 2nd round pick (FLA)
                                                                                                                    Retained Salary Transactions
                                                                                                                    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
                                                                                                                    2018
                                                                                                                    Logo of the VAN
                                                                                                                    Logo of the OTT
                                                                                                                    Logo of the VAN
                                                                                                                    Logo of the WPG
                                                                                                                    Logo of the DET
                                                                                                                    Logo of the SJS
                                                                                                                    Logo of the SJS
                                                                                                                    2019
                                                                                                                    Logo of the VAN
                                                                                                                    Logo of the PIT
                                                                                                                    Logo of the STL
                                                                                                                    Logo of the EDM
                                                                                                                    Logo of the SJS
                                                                                                                    Logo of the EDM
                                                                                                                    Logo of the PIT
                                                                                                                    2020
                                                                                                                    Logo of the SJS
                                                                                                                    Logo of the DAL
                                                                                                                    Logo of the SJS
                                                                                                                    Logo of the SJS
                                                                                                                    Logo of the SJS
                                                                                                                    Logo of the SJS
                                                                                                                    Logo of the ANA
                                                                                                                    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
                                                                                                                    43$76,000,000$79,107,165$235,500$5,552,500-$3,107,165
                                                                                                                    Left WingCentreRight Wing
                                                                                                                    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
                                                                                                                    C, RW
                                                                                                                    UFA - 1
                                                                                                                    $7,250,000$7,250,000
                                                                                                                    C
                                                                                                                    NMC
                                                                                                                    UFA - 4
                                                                                                                    Keller, Clayton
                                                                                                                    $925,000$925,000
                                                                                                                    $2,500,000$2,500,000
                                                                                                                    C, LW
                                                                                                                    UFA - 1
                                                                                                                    $2,000,000$2,000,000
                                                                                                                    C
                                                                                                                    UFA - 5
                                                                                                                    $3,250,000$3,250,000
                                                                                                                    LW, RW
                                                                                                                    NTC
                                                                                                                    UFA - 6
                                                                                                                    $4,450,000$4,450,000
                                                                                                                    RW, LW
                                                                                                                    NTC
                                                                                                                    UFA - 6
                                                                                                                    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$2,475,000$2M)
                                                                                                                    C
                                                                                                                    UFA - 3
                                                                                                                    $5,800,000$5,800,000
                                                                                                                    RW
                                                                                                                    NMC
                                                                                                                    UFA - 3
                                                                                                                    $875,000$875,000 (Performance Bonus$50,000$50K)
                                                                                                                    LW, RW
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $2,000,000$2,000,000
                                                                                                                    C, RW
                                                                                                                    UFA - 1
                                                                                                                    $717,500$717,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                                                                                    RW, LW
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    (D), Casey Mittelstadt
                                                                                                                    $925,000$925,000
                                                                                                                    $858,750$858,750
                                                                                                                    C, LW
                                                                                                                    UFA - 1
                                                                                                                    $763,333$763,333 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
                                                                                                                    C, LW, RW
                                                                                                                    RFA - 3
                                                                                                                    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
                                                                                                                    LW
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $858,750$858,750
                                                                                                                    C
                                                                                                                    UFA - 1
                                                                                                                    $736,667$736,667
                                                                                                                    C
                                                                                                                    RFA - 3
                                                                                                                    $925,000$925,000
                                                                                                                    LW, RW
                                                                                                                    RFA - 3
                                                                                                                    $672,500$672,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                                                                                    C
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $800,833$800,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
                                                                                                                    LW
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $759,167$759,167 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                                                                                    LW, RW
                                                                                                                    UFA - 3
                                                                                                                    $650,000$650,000
                                                                                                                    C
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $717,500$717,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                                                                                    C
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $705,000$705,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
                                                                                                                    LW
                                                                                                                    RFA - 2
                                                                                                                    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                                                                                                                    $5,000,000$5,000,000
                                                                                                                    LD
                                                                                                                    NTC
                                                                                                                    UFA - 5
                                                                                                                    $2,800,000$2,800,000
                                                                                                                    RD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 1
                                                                                                                    $3,666,667$3,666,667
                                                                                                                    G
                                                                                                                    UFA - 3
                                                                                                                    $2,825,000$2,825,000
                                                                                                                    LD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 1
                                                                                                                    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
                                                                                                                    RD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 1
                                                                                                                    Samsonov, Ilya
                                                                                                                    $925,000$925,000
                                                                                                                    $4,250,000$4,250,000
                                                                                                                    LD
                                                                                                                    NTC
                                                                                                                    UFA - 3
                                                                                                                    $2,500,000$2,500,000
                                                                                                                    RD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 3
                                                                                                                    $850,000$850,000
                                                                                                                    LD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $2,750,000$2,750,000
                                                                                                                    RD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $730,833$730,833 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                                                                                    LD/RD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 3
                                                                                                                    $714,167$714,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
                                                                                                                    RD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
                                                                                                                    LD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 1
                                                                                                                    $728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$232,500$232K)
                                                                                                                    D
                                                                                                                    UFA - 3
                                                                                                                    $656,667$656,667
                                                                                                                    LD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $650,000$650,000
                                                                                                                    RD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                                                                                    D
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2
                                                                                                                    $925,000$925,000
                                                                                                                    RD
                                                                                                                    UFA - 2

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                                                                                                                    Jul. 19, 2017 at 12:13 p.m.
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                                                                                                                    Any interest in Seabrook?
                                                                                                                    Jul. 19, 2017 at 12:19 p.m.
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                                                                                                                    Quoting: F50marco
                                                                                                                    Would you be interested in the likes of Saad, Horvat or Forsberg? Would have involve a good prospect and a 1st coming back.


                                                                                                                    I like all 3 of those players. I'm not trading any picks though. Ideally I'd take Saad and Horvat for Mittelstadt who was a top 10 pick who I think has 2nd most upside of the entire 2017 draft, Bracco who had a great year in the OHL , Vrana who was a high 1st rounder and is still finding his way and Valiev or Spencer, perhaps I could add in something else small if you can find anything else in this bargain bin of a team.
                                                                                                                    Jul. 19, 2017 at 12:20 p.m.
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                                                                                                                    Quoting: TopCornerShot
                                                                                                                    Quoting: F50marco
                                                                                                                    Would you be interested in the likes of Saad, Horvat or Forsberg? Would have involve a good prospect and a 1st coming back.


                                                                                                                    I like all 3 of those players. I'm not trading any picks though. Ideally I'd take Saad and Horvat for Mittelstadt who was a top 10 pick who I think has 2nd most upside of the entire 2017 draft, Bracco who had a great year in the OHL , Vrana who was a high 1st rounder and is still finding his way and Valiev or Spencer, perhaps I could add in something else small if you can find anything else in this bargain bin of a team.


                                                                                                                    Oh ok nevermind.
                                                                                                                    Jul. 19, 2017 at 12:20 p.m.
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                                                                                                                    what's the price on Pulock/Juolevi?
                                                                                                                    Jul. 19, 2017 at 12:26 p.m.
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                                                                                                                    Quoting: TopCornerShot

                                                                                                                    You might have to pay me to take him as I've just found out I have Ryan Callaghan as well. Only a certain amount of room for overpaid RW leaders who don't produce as much as they're being paid. If you want to trade them straight up with minor add in's I could be interested.


                                                                                                                    What would have to be going back for me to trade you Dustin Brown


                                                                                                                    Your team is very very rough. The only guys I have interest in are Bjork and Mrazek. I'd take Bjork and Brown for my DAL 2018 4th or I'd do Bjork Brown and Mrazek for Markstrom and SJ 2018 6th or Brown + Mrazek + Something for a worse pick
                                                                                                                    Jul. 19, 2017 at 12:26 p.m.
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                                                                                                                    Quoting: DirtyDangles
                                                                                                                    Any interest in Seabrook?


                                                                                                                    None.
                                                                                                                    Jul. 19, 2017 at 12:27 p.m.
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                                                                                                                    Quoting: NateElder12
                                                                                                                    what's the price on Pulock/Juolevi?


                                                                                                                    Very high on both. Juolevi > Pulock.
                                                                                                                    Jul. 19, 2017 at 12:30 p.m.
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                                                                                                                    what's the price on Pulock/Juolevi?


                                                                                                                    Very high on both. Juolevi > Pulock.


                                                                                                                    Do Severson or McNabb interest you?
                                                                                                                    Jul. 19, 2017 at 12:42 p.m.
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                                                                                                                    Very high on both. Juolevi > Pulock.


                                                                                                                    Do Severson or McNabb interest you?


                                                                                                                    Both interest me, but they have less value to me than the players you were inquiring about. I used to like Severson, but after he was 3rd worst in +/- league wide this last year, including -15 more than any other defenseman on the Devils and he's only logging 20 minutes of ice time it kinda scares me. Maybe I could give you Pulock and Goldobin for Severson and Lucic @ 50%.
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                                                                                                                    Any interest in Seabrook?


                                                                                                                    I'm looking for younger players. I'd offer barely anything for him even though he's good right now because of his cap hit for that length of time. Just too many years in there where he could dip. If you took Callaghan in the deal I'd give you Vrana and Marincin. I know it's small, but I just don't want to give up good young stuff for aging players.
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                                                                                                                    Both interest me, but they have less value to me than the players you were inquiring about. I used to like Severson, but after he was 3rd worst in +/- league wide this last year, including -15 more than any other defenseman on the Devils and he's only logging 20 minutes of ice time it kinda scares me. Maybe I could give you Pulock and Goldobin for Severson and Lucic @ 50%.


                                                                                                                    +/- is a worthless statistic that isn't repeatable but I get what you are saying. He was easily NJD best defenseman last year. +4.3 CF%rel, led the defense in TOI, and got extremely unlucky due to the down year of Schneider and poor Sh% by the forwards honestly. His PDO was the lowest on the team among defense and you probably saw the worst he will ever do since PDO normally reverts back to the mean (he was 97 and mean is 100). I couldn't add Lucic to the deal unless you added more especially if you want me to retain. Lucic is still a positive result player and I'm not willing to retain on him especially for that long.

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                                                                                                                    Both interest me, but they have less value to me than the players you were inquiring about. I used to like Severson, but after he was 3rd worst in +/- league wide this last year, including -15 more than any other defenseman on the Devils and he's only logging 20 minutes of ice time it kinda scares me. Maybe I could give you Pulock and Goldobin for Severson and Lucic @ 50%.


                                                                                                                    +/- is a worthless statistic that isn't repeatable but I get what you are saying. He was easily NJD best defenseman last year. +4.3 CF%rel, led the defense in TOI, and got extremely unlucky due to the down year of Schneider and poor Sh% by the forwards honestly. His PDO was the lowest on the team among defense and you probably saw the worst he will ever do since PDO normally reverts back to the mean (he was 97 and mean is 100). I couldn't add Lucic to the deal unless you added more especially if you want me to retain. Lucic is still a positive result player and I'm not willing to retain on him especially for that long.


                                                                                                                    Yeah, see I wouldn't want Lucic unretained because I'm a Bruins fan and I know we traded him because he's going to drop within a few years. I do agree that +/- shouldn't be taken completely literally, but when you are that bad compared to every other defenseman on the same team, it does carry some weight to me. In his favor though he did play with a lot of different guys so I'm sure that contributed to things. Juolevi is off the table for a guy like Severson. Pulock I really like as well because of his offensive upside and his cannon of a shot. I think this is his year, now that they've moved Hamonic.
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                                                                                                                    +/- is a worthless statistic that isn't repeatable but I get what you are saying. He was easily NJD best defenseman last year. +4.3 CF%rel, led the defense in TOI, and got extremely unlucky due to the down year of Schneider and poor Sh% by the forwards honestly. His PDO was the lowest on the team among defense and you probably saw the worst he will ever do since PDO normally reverts back to the mean (he was 97 and mean is 100). I couldn't add Lucic to the deal unless you added more especially if you want me to retain. Lucic is still a positive result player and I'm not willing to retain on him especially for that long.


                                                                                                                    Yeah, see I wouldn't want Lucic unretained because I'm a Bruins fan and I know we traded him because he's going to drop within a few years. I do agree that +/- shouldn't be taken completely literally, but when you are that bad compared to every other defenseman on the same team, it does carry some weight to me. In his favor though he did play with a lot of different guys so I'm sure that contributed to things. Juolevi is off the table for a guy like Severson. Pulock I really like as well because of his offensive upside and his cannon of a shot. I think this is his year, now that they've moved Hamonic.


                                                                                                                    Haha eww a Bruins fan. No I'm kidding. What about something like McNabb/Lee for Pulock+ as a baseline then since you woudln't do Severson for him?
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                                                                                                                    Yeah, see I wouldn't want Lucic unretained because I'm a Bruins fan and I know we traded him because he's going to drop within a few years. I do agree that +/- shouldn't be taken completely literally, but when you are that bad compared to every other defenseman on the same team, it does carry some weight to me. In his favor though he did play with a lot of different guys so I'm sure that contributed to things. Juolevi is off the table for a guy like Severson. Pulock I really like as well because of his offensive upside and his cannon of a shot. I think this is his year, now that they've moved Hamonic.


                                                                                                                    Haha eww a Bruins fan. No I'm kidding. What about something like McNabb/Lee for Pulock+ as a baseline then since you woudln't do Severson for him?


                                                                                                                    I like Severson better than McNabb and If the Lee you are talking about is Anders Lee, I'd have to say no. I think Anders Lee was the new Matt Moulson. (guy who gets inflated by being with Tavares) I can't see your prospects, but if you wanted a McNAbb for Pulock deal you'd have to add a rather good prospect given McNabb is a UFA in 1 year, played like half the season, and had his lowest ATOI to date at around 15 mins. That's not a guy I'd trade a 1st round prospect + for....
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                                                                                                                    Quoting: NateElder12


                                                                                                                    Haha eww a Bruins fan. No I'm kidding. What about something like McNabb/Lee for Pulock+ as a baseline then since you woudln't do Severson for him?


                                                                                                                    I like Severson better than McNabb and If the Lee you are talking about is Anders Lee, I'd have to say no. I think Anders Lee was the new Matt Moulson. (guy who gets inflated by being with Tavares) I can't see your prospects, but if you wanted a McNAbb for Pulock deal you'd have to add a rather good prospect given McNabb is a UFA in 1 year, played like half the season, and had his lowest ATOI to date at around 15 mins. That's not a guy I'd trade a 1st round prospect + for....


                                                                                                                    well the difference between him and moulsen is that he isn't going anywhere haha. I don't see that though. He's better defensively than moulsen was but that's for you to evaluate - look at their HERO charts from when they played with Tavares an you'll see what I mean. As far as prospects I can't pull them up since we had to set it to 23 man roster right now, but I have Shane Bowers as probably my top prospect. He was a 1st round pick this year and plays center. Would you be interested in Bowers/McNabb for Pulock or Bowers/2nd/3rd rd pick (McNabb value) for Pulock? I'd move Severson for Pulock too but we'd have to work on that part more in depth.
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                                                                                                                    I like Severson better than McNabb and If the Lee you are talking about is Anders Lee, I'd have to say no. I think Anders Lee was the new Matt Moulson. (guy who gets inflated by being with Tavares) I can't see your prospects, but if you wanted a McNAbb for Pulock deal you'd have to add a rather good prospect given McNabb is a UFA in 1 year, played like half the season, and had his lowest ATOI to date at around 15 mins. That's not a guy I'd trade a 1st round prospect + for....


                                                                                                                    well the difference between him and moulsen is that he isn't going anywhere haha. I don't see that though. He's better defensively than moulsen was but that's for you to evaluate - look at their HERO charts from when they played with Tavares an you'll see what I mean. As far as prospects I can't pull them up since we had to set it to 23 man roster right now, but I have Shane Bowers as probably my top prospect. He was a 1st round pick this year and plays center. Would you be interested in Bowers/McNabb for Pulock or Bowers/2nd/3rd rd pick (McNabb value) for Pulock? I'd move Severson for Pulock too but we'd have to work on that part more in depth.


                                                                                                                    No interest in Bowers. I'd rather have McNabb + 2018 1st EDM, but I don't think I'd like to take that kind of risk. If I trade my only RHD, I kind of need a RHD back, which looks like it would be Demers. If the deal was McNabb + Demers + 2018 1st EDM for Pulock.... then I know I'd have to add something in, preferably a LHD, If you would like to do McNabb + Demers + 2018 1st EDM for Pulock + Ericsson, We could make that happen.
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                                                                                                                    I am interested in Mitch Marner. What's the asking price?
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                                                                                                                    I am interested in Mitch Marner. What's the asking price?


                                                                                                                    It'd be extremely difficult to make a deal work without you throwing in JT. I also don't value JT as much as others would because I am well aware someone is going to offer him a max contract next season as a UFA.

                                                                                                                    I'd say the lowest I can go before talking to a lot of other GM's about him, would be Marner + Marincin for Bobrovsky + Hamonic + 2018 NYI 1st + 2018 MTL 1st.
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                                                                                                                    well the difference between him and moulsen is that he isn't going anywhere haha. I don't see that though. He's better defensively than moulsen was but that's for you to evaluate - look at their HERO charts from when they played with Tavares an you'll see what I mean. As far as prospects I can't pull them up since we had to set it to 23 man roster right now, but I have Shane Bowers as probably my top prospect. He was a 1st round pick this year and plays center. Would you be interested in Bowers/McNabb for Pulock or Bowers/2nd/3rd rd pick (McNabb value) for Pulock? I'd move Severson for Pulock too but we'd have to work on that part more in depth.


                                                                                                                    No interest in Bowers. I'd rather have McNabb + 2018 1st EDM, but I don't think I'd like to take that kind of risk. If I trade my only RHD, I kind of need a RHD back, which looks like it would be Demers. If the deal was McNabb + Demers + 2018 1st EDM for Pulock.... then I know I'd have to add something in, preferably a LHD, If you would like to do McNabb + Demers + 2018 1st EDM for Pulock + Ericsson, We could make that happen.


                                                                                                                    What if I did McNabb/Mantha (top defensive prospect and RHD) for Pulock. I can't really give up a top-4 guy, a 4th/5th dman, and a 1st for a prospect and an overpaid bottom pairing guy you know?
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                                                                                                                    Granlund for Marner?
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                                                                                                                    No interest in Bowers. I'd rather have McNabb + 2018 1st EDM, but I don't think I'd like to take that kind of risk. If I trade my only RHD, I kind of need a RHD back, which looks like it would be Demers. If the deal was McNabb + Demers + 2018 1st EDM for Pulock.... then I know I'd have to add something in, preferably a LHD, If you would like to do McNabb + Demers + 2018 1st EDM for Pulock + Ericsson, We could make that happen.


                                                                                                                    What if I did McNabb/Mantha (top defensive prospect and RHD) for Pulock. I can't really give up a top-4 guy, a 4th/5th dman, and a 1st for a prospect and an overpaid bottom pairing guy you know?


                                                                                                                    I can't do that, as I have no interest in Mantha.

                                                                                                                    I also don't consider Pulock much of a prospect anymore, as the only thing blocking him from a full time NHL spot is Scott Mayfield, who was mediocre last season in 20ish games. I don't think Demers and McNabb have as much value to me as they do to you. I don't consider McNabb a lock as a top 6 defender for Vegas when they have Garrison, Sbisa, Merrill and Schmidt who are all also LHD's. I see him playing like 40 games.

                                                                                                                    Demers got overpaid for what he brings. He is a top 4 defenseman, but he's a #4 which the way I break it down is like.... you have your top 3 go-to guys and then you have your bottom 3 players who'll skate less than 20 minutes. He's in the bottom 3 of the top 6 and he's making 4.5M. Also another disturbing thing about him is that he's been in the NHL 8 years and has played a lot, but has only played more than 75 games in a season 1 time. He's most likely to miss 20 games next season, which is kind of a let down.

                                                                                                                    Everyone around the league has been raving about Pulock as a PP QB and his shot is already legendary without even having played much. I need some serious goods to give up that much potential and I wouldn't be getting something that matched him even in the deal I proposed. I think EDM is a SCF team next season or atleast WCF which means the pick would be 28-31. Not sure you're gonna find a Pulock type talent there and if you did, he'd be around 3 or 4 years away from competing for a roster spot.

                                                                                                                    It's going to take a lot to get the guys who are ready to be NHLers but are still technically prospects from me. Clayton Keller and Pulock are basically ready for the show this year. Guys like Vrana, Goldobin, Juolevi and others have a good chance as well. Samsonov has enormous value to me as well. If you want some bargin bin players you'll need to shop for the unknowns and hope they work out.
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                                                                                                                    Granlund for Marner?


                                                                                                                    You want to trade me a 25 year old who's only scored above 60 points once for a guy who did it his first year at 19 years of age? I hope you know you'd need to add on to that deal substantially to make it work out for both sides.
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                                                                                                                    Quoting: Icegirl
                                                                                                                    Marner for Domi+?


                                                                                                                    I like Domi, but it'd have to be a very big +.
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                                                                                                                    Quoting: TopCornerShot
                                                                                                                    Quoting: WhisperWhisper
                                                                                                                    Granlund for Marner?


                                                                                                                    You want to trade me a 25 year old who's only scored above 60 points once for a guy who did it his first year at 19 years of age? I hope you know you'd need to add on to that deal substantially to make it work out for both sides.


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