Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I responded to 2 people in that post, the other user brought up the 50/50 split in power play points. So that part was directed at them.
Taking him off the PK isn't going to have much effect at all to his 5v5 play. It would literally only matter for the 30 seconds right after an unsuccessful PK ends when the other teams top players are resting. I'm not really sure why you keep bringing up Pittsburgh, he wasn't exactly good there either. He was ok but he was also their 4th, maybe 5th best defenseman. He was carried by Marino most nights. You also keep talking about how Montreal has been a bottom 10 team as if Calgary without Markstrom won't also be bottom 10.
Again I don't hate him, I just know he's not worth nearly as much as you seem to think. Maybe you could flip him in a deal like Edmonton did with Tyson Barrie.
Your last statement here is a bit confusing
Are you suggesting that when he played 18 minutes a night in Pittsburgh he had better 5v5 numbers than the Flames entire d-core? Maybe better than the new guys they brought in this deadline but you are trolling if you think he was better than any of Andersson, Weegar, Hanifin, Tanev, or Kylington.
oo ok that part makes more sense now
Taking him off the PK gives him 2-4 minutes extra Rest on average
Mathesons shift on PK last about 1:15-1:25 minutes each PK
It Gases him ,i watch it after a big game screw him and the team
My Favorite Example is MTL vs TBL as the first 10 games we rode him 26-28 minutes a night with a 5-3-2 start
Then he broke down to start the game totally flat footed so he sat until he got his legs under him and is was the Guhle Barron show that night in WPG games MTL Won 4-3 before we had
Well Matheson only played 16 minutes that night 21 the next 4 games before the MTL vs TBL game where in the first 14 Minutes 4 goals he was directly at fault for were scored and the replay painfully show it even as i re-watch it now for the first time in a few months. He even Kicked a Goal in on Allen before he got benched after Allen got Pulled(going on to end his winning streak & start a losing one)
Matheson does this as he did after that TBL Lightning Loss that set Allen on a Losing Streak after a hot start
He continues with 27-32 minutes a night followed by bad games and back down to 21 minutes a night for a few games
Why?
His PK Time
I watch him all year and there's nothing he's doing thats wrong
He's just getting caught flat footed and winded as he went from conditioning for his career average 18 minutes
But now in MTL he can play anywhere from 25 Minutes Average with Spikes as low as 16 minutes and as high as 32
Thats too Much For even a Doughty , Hedman , Markar, Q.Hughes or whomever you think is the best
You CANT have your #1 D running Pair 1 , PP1 and PK1 when there's no Pair 2 capable of 22 Minute average largely due to the weird distribution of minutes.
Watching these games is painful sometime and watching him let down Allen i that TBL game broke my heart Matheson was owning and apologizing even went out to play the best next 5 period of the season trying to make up for it scoring 4 points i believe? Even after Allen was on the bench he'd go out of his way to sit beside him and say "it was my fault not yours"
He earned a Ton of Respect that game from MTL
Our Defense Coach Robidas and Special Teams Coach Burrows Lost a Ton of Respect that night
Its when i started calling for Experience in 1/2 roles but i digress.
Onto Weeger who has CGY best 5v5 CF% 51.8 and FF% 52.3
Matheson in PIT has 5v5 CF% 53.8 and FF% 54.6
53.8>51.8 and 54.6>52.3
Even if you use the 2 year average its 52.5>51.8 and 52.9>52.3
When you brought up these Stats with your 5v5 weird excuse for not just sacking up and saying "i dont like the player"
The only players Better then Mathesons PIT totals you have traded away in Hanafin 60% average and Tanev 55% average
Trust me i wouldnt have pointed it out if i didnt physically check it out after you made this all by 5v5 as i had to see how vast the divide was between our teams 5v5
While i get what you're saying
I truly dont believe you considered what ive said for more then the 30 seconds you took to skim through my reply.
So please this time just give it a good read and consider the statement in context to your response .
I think if you do we'll be a lot closer on a lot of opinions that your realize i just think there's a bit of a disconnect trying to express it all via Text?
Also below is Mathesons Game Logs just check out his minutes
Then tell me being on the PK isnt a factor in why he's too gassed 5v5 and makes mistakes more now cause of it
Not to mention we lead the league in SHG against and i know 5 went in when he was last man out his end and can remember 3 vividly
Struble should get the minutes and wouldnt have 5 SHG against on his shift on his man as he's not getting a ton of minutes.
Anyways i hope this clarifies the points i was trying to make
I also hope you dont get mad that Matheson PIT 5v5 #'s are better then Weeger,Anderson and Kylington's
Given when i made the statement Tanev and Hanafin werent a part of CGY i find they're irrelevant to this conversation
But if it makes you feel better we can Pretend they arent i guess
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/m/mathemi01/gamelog/2024