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If You Give Both Jarvis and Necas Long-Term Contracts

Team: 2024-25 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 12, 2024
Published: Mar. 12, 2024
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A bit of a tighter squeeze, but still pretty doable.
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4$1,500,000
1$800,000
8$8,500,000
4$3,500,000
1$1,000,000
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Mar. 12 at 12:54 p.m.
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Nice of everyone to take discounts
Mar. 12 at 12:57 p.m.
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If they give them both long term deals I would assume they get rid of KK to free space up
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Mar. 12 at 12:57 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Nice of everyone to take discounts


Slight, not too great. Sort of like what the likes of Florida/Tampa/Vegas/Colorado does. Personally, I think if Guentzel doesn't sign a contract below 9, we'll just call him a rental and pivot to keeping Teravainen.
Mar. 12 at 12:59 p.m.
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If they give them both long term deals I would assume they get rid of KK to free space up


Why? He's the long term 2C, with Kuzy up the coming summer, that would be incredibly shortsighted and dumb unless someone's drastically overpaying
Mar. 12 at 12:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Logicalicesports
If they give them both long term deals I would assume they get rid of KK to free space up


Or, alternatively, they walk Guentzel. The Canes are known neither for their desperation nor for trading their 25-and-under NHLers.
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Mar. 12 at 12:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Logicalicesports
If they give them both long term deals I would assume they get rid of KK to free space up


No one is taking on that contract
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Mar. 12 at 1:04 p.m.
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Why? He's the long term 2C, with Kuzy up the coming summer, that would be incredibly shortsighted and dumb unless someone's drastically overpaying


I'll say long-term 3C, but that's practically the same thing on our team as far as ToI is concerned. Staal's not going to play at a Selke-level forever.
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Mar. 12 at 1:05 p.m.
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I'll say long-term 3C, but that's practically the same thing on our team as far as ToI is concerned. Staal's not going to play at a Selke-level forever.


He's already not, he's been awful this year. KK's been a dominant player all year long who just could not buy a goal. Now he's got confidence, he's back producing. He's not a player I'm worried about, he'll be the 2C long term
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Mar. 12 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
No one is taking on that contract


A lot of young, rebuilding teams would try out a 23 year old center with strong defensive metrics, especially considering the under-26 buyout rule. I just don't think that giving away a big, young, defensively-aware center is the MO of the Hurricanes.
Mar. 12 at 1:07 p.m.
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i have a hard time seing jarvis signing this to be honest. with the cap rising, he will push for much more on a 8th year deal or take a bridge and bet on himself in my opinion.
Mar. 12 at 1:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
He's already not, he's been awful this year. KK's been a dominant player all year long who just could not buy a goal. Now he's got confidence, he's back producing. He's not a player I'm worried about, he'll be the 2C long term


This is the funniest thing I've ever heard.
Mar. 12 at 1:08 p.m.
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Quoting: TheReelChuckFletcher
A lot of young, rebuilding teams would try out a 23 year old center with strong defensive metrics, especially considering the under-26 buyout rule. I just don't think that giving away a big, young, defensively-aware center is the MO of the Hurricanes.


They player you are describing is not kotkaniemi. He is sheltered massively and does not produce.
Mar. 12 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Why? He's the long term 2C, with Kuzy up the coming summer, that would be incredibly shortsighted and dumb unless someone's drastically overpaying


Cause everyone on this site outside of you knows KK isn't an actual 2C
Mar. 12 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
This is the funniest thing I've ever heard.


Crazy that KK has been "dominant" all year long, yet can't break off the 4th line and has like 20 points this season. Stockholm syndrome at it's finest I think
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Mar. 12 at 1:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Ennis
Cause everyone on this site outside of you knows KK isn't an actual 2C


I could certainly see a future where KK gets 2C-esque ice time, though. As a 3C. That's the Jordan Staal role. Defensive lines get a huge amount of ice time on our team.
Mar. 12 at 1:23 p.m.
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Quoting: TheReelChuckFletcher
I could certainly see a future where KK gets 2C-esque ice time, though. As a 3C. That's the Jordan Staal role. Defensive lines get a huge amount of ice time on our team.


KK is incredibly sheltered. He's never played against top comp and plays 3C minutes every year. Could become a decent 3C but for 4.8 that's steep. Dude is also super streaky.
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Mar. 12 at 1:31 p.m.
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Why? He's the long term 2C, with Kuzy up the coming summer, that would be incredibly shortsighted and dumb unless someone's drastically overpaying


I belive that the main reason of why you said that KK is their long-term 2C it's because you maybe just don't admit that's was a massive mistake by Waddell and Dundon to make a offershet for KK.

I'm of thoses who think the Canes will gonna try to make a moove to keep KK, but don't be surprise if they decide to buyout him.
Mar. 12 at 1:40 p.m.
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I belive that the main reason of why you said that KK is their long-term 2C it's because you maybe just don't admit that's was a massive mistake by Waddell and Dundon to make a offershet for KK.

I'm of thoses who think the Canes will gonna try to make a moove to keep KK, but don't be surprise if they decide to buyout him.


No, that's not why he says that. KK's a primary example of a guy who has really good advanced metrics but doesn't yet have the numerical results to show for it. That's like a prime Canes-type of player.

I tend to take a more balanced approach, I think. I still think KK can be a great defensive forward with some offensive pop when necessary, but he is most effective on a premium defensive line.
Mar. 12 at 1:53 p.m.
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Quoting: TheReelChuckFletcher
No, that's not why he says that. KK's a primary example of a guy who has really good advanced metrics but doesn't yet have the numerical results to show for it. That's like a prime Canes-type of player.

I tend to take a more balanced approach, I think. I still think KK can be a great defensive forward with some offensive pop when necessary, but he is most effective on a premium defensive line.


Then why does he get 60% o zone starts? Why does he play 12 minutes a game? Nothing supports him being good defensively besides playing in a system that prioritizes team defense
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Mar. 12 at 1:58 p.m.
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Cause everyone on this site outside of you knows KK isn't an actual 2C


So I'm the only one that watches Kotkaniemi, thanks for proving my point tears of joy
Mar. 12 at 1:59 p.m.
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I belive that the main reason of why you said that KK is their long-term 2C it's because you maybe just don't admit that's was a massive mistake by Waddell and Dundon to make a offershet for KK.

I'm of thoses who think the Canes will gonna try to make a moove to keep KK, but don't be surprise if they decide to buyout him.


Why would they buy him out? He's 23, signed long term, and a dominant player analytically. You're on copium if you think he's a buyout candidate lol
Mar. 12 at 2:10 p.m.
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So I'm the only one that watches Kotkaniemi, thanks for proving my point tears of joy


Nothing about any of his production this season has suggested he's a 2C aside from a small sample size where he was great, and then fell off. You're just wrong and will die on that hill before ever admitting it.
Mar. 12 at 2:23 p.m.
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Nothing about any of his production this season has suggested he's a 2C aside from a small sample size where he was great, and then fell off. You're just wrong and will die on that hill before ever admitting it.


So, you're pointing at his counting stats where he's had a career low PDO and shooting percentage, and are trying to say that is what he is when he's coming off a 40 point season, and still hodls great creation underlying numbers? LOL Okay buddy
Mar. 12 at 2:26 p.m.
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So, you're pointing at his counting stats where he's had a career low PDO and shooting percentage, and are trying to say that is what he is when he's coming off a 40 point season, and still hodls great creation underlying numbers? LOL Okay buddy


Do you just doomscroll NST and pick out random stats and hope they support your argument?

40 points still isn’t a viable 2C, especially when he’s extremely sheltered and plays a very very little quality of competition. He’s tanked this year compared to his performance last year. 2C’s actually play meaningful minutes and score more than 40 points on time.

Great creation underlying numbers but can’t create? Nice.

It seems to me like you’re trying to convince yourself more than others
Mar. 12 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Then why does he get 60% o zone starts? Why does he play 12 minutes a game? Nothing supports him being good defensively besides playing in a system that prioritizes team defense


He starts the second fewest shifts in the Ozone, is within a percentage point of Aho for second most in the Dzone, and starts the most neutral zone draws. Only Staal has more Dzone starts than Ozone starts of the 4 centers on the team. The Canes don't take nearly as many Dzone faceoffs, so of course he has more Ozone starts.

And by ice time he is effectively the 3C, but most people would consider Staal's line to be a "third line" despite getting more ice time.
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