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Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 30, 2024
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Mar. 30 at 5:58 p.m.
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Wahhh ladies and gentleman we have a professional scout here.. “ he was a reach at 5” oh yeah? And i wonder why NSH and DET tried so hard trading up to take him. Stick yo bum ass to the poverty Ducks. “ he was slated to go in the early teens” i think you watched too many tankhaton mock drafts💀 “he’s done nothing to justify where he was picked “ Mr the scout should know how he’s playing in Laval no?

Keep the scouting talent hidden🔥🔥


I'm starting to understand how easy it is for Habs fans to delude themselves, apparently a 5 game stretch is sufficient to project a players entire career.

Maybe take a break from the **** posting until your sense of smell recovers.
Mar. 30 at 6:17 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
I'm starting to understand how easy it is for Habs fans to delude themselves, apparently a 5 game stretch is sufficient to project a players entire career.

Maybe take a break from the **** posting until your sense of smell recovers.[/quot


Apparently, a 5game stretch is sufficient for you to say that he has done nothing to “ justify “ why he went #5..

You expected him to put up 100 points with his ****ty team in Europe?

Maybe stop relying on Tankhaton mock drafts, you won’t look like a fool again.

I’m sure professional scouts know better than your casual as* no? Don’t you think?
Mar. 30 at 7:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy316
Different drafts
Dach draft wasnt deep , pick was worth much less
Newhook got a late 1st and early 2nd for Newhook so they could flip it and get Colton Ross who TBL had to flip cause they didnt have the cap to re-sign him

This draft is deep with a ton of 1st round Defensman both Left and Right shots so outside the top 2 how the domino's fall there's no consensus on among analysts.
I mean Eiserman pretty much had a lock on #2 preseason and now he's fallen as low as 9th in some projections and like Benson Last year is set to fall again
Its not that he's not playing amazing, he is. Its that those around him are playing that much better.


Zegras is also far more valuable than Dach/Newhook were. Dach had a career high of 26 points, and Newhook had a career high of 33 points on a loaded Colorado team. Meanwhile Zegras has a multiple 60+ point seasons on terrible Anaheim teams. Obviously points aren’t everything but he’s still more valuable than Dach/Newhook easily

For comparisons sake, Zegras has a slightly higher PPG than Caufield in their careers, Zegras can play center, and both are bad defensively. Zegras’ value would be closer to what you’d ask for in a Caufield trade
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Mar. 30 at 7:44 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
He was a reach at 5, he was slated to go in the early teens, and he's done nothing to break out this season to justify where he was picked, quit kidding yourself about him being a franchise player.


Its team building not nhl94. Gms value the intangibles whether you want to believe you can judge every player in a vaccuum or not. That is the NHL reality so stop living in this fantasy land where Zegras warts arent noticed by everyone and players like a RHD such as Reinbacher arent always overvalued.

Stanley Cup winners are usually significantly larger than other teams and the league is full of smaller players who just can't get it done in the playoffs. I am a firm believer in acquiring assets that will help win Stanley Cups and am not interested in using premium draft picks or trading premium assets for anything less than core pieces for a championship team. There are plenty of examples of smaller players who have been great in the playoffs, including recent examples such as Point and Marchessault but they are outliers. Zegras doesnt look like that outlier, even IF, i repeat IF, he was that outlier.. no GM is paying for that chance, you need to deal with reality!

Quoting: Billy316
Reinbacher was picked for 1 reason
He's Hutsons ideal Partner and thats Hughes saying it while trying to get MTL fans to put down their pitch forks
Now that he's here Laval is on a 3win streak since winnig 5 last 6 since Reinbacher joined adding 1 goal and 3 assists in that time.
Now fans are like "oooooo i get it uhhhh durrrr"

I said it when we got him, i wanted Michkov but Reinbacher i get as a choice
He's the perfect guy to Anchor Hutson and quite capable of defending him
At best we see him as our Erik Johnson which we happen to need
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Mar. 31 at 5:51 a.m.
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Zegras is also far more valuable than Dach/Newhook were. Dach had a career high of 26 points, and Newhook had a career high of 33 points on a loaded Colorado team. Meanwhile Zegras has a multiple 60+ point seasons on terrible Anaheim teams. Obviously points aren’t everything but he’s still more valuable than Dach/Newhook easily

For comparisons sake, Zegras has a slightly higher PPG than Caufield in their careers, Zegras can play center, and both are bad defensively. Zegras’ value would be closer to what you’d ask for in a Caufield trade


Business in a Capitalistic Society is Supply vs Demand with the exception of someone using Leverage to their advantage ,them's the rules of business 10/10 , 100/100 and a 1000/1000. I talk with ANA fans and have this debate often , a few of which i speak with above where we literally touch back on conversations we had about everything you just said and more. Zegras is great , i want him at the right price. Barron is a great player and ANA wants him at the right price. (Harris less so but would take with a top 15 pick this year basically). Same as they want to sell him at the right price even if that means sitting on him during a decline after a new contract(We did that with Petry too and it worked out so its logical"

As for other Draft Day Deals they were situational as is the Zegras trade now.
Circumstances beyond their immediate control given the context of their said situations.
Same reason CHI got a ridiculous return for Hagel from TBL based on Situational needs and leverage.

Teams get less too sometimes for the same reason like LAK who had a Surplus of Valuable D for too long. They ended up selling low on Durzi, Walker and Grans
MTL has done the same potentially if we dont move Savard and Kovacevic out in their final years , its the cost of doing business sometimes.

All that said there is NO WAY we get Newhook that cheap unless Colton Ross was there to help upgrade and bridge the gap cause they NEEDED Newhook to become Kadri's replacement basically as his ELC expired . He wasnt ready Colton was closer and COL seeing their window is getting tighter with this core made a change.

Dach was trade like Danault for nothing cause of injury issues in CHI
CHI hedged their bets and lost again in my books. That said Danault rise was consistent and relatively injury free so Dach could still bust.
Regardless Dach was acquired because KK left and MB final move as GM was to replace him with Dvorak paying more then CAR did for KK or MTL did for Dach
Situation was only possible because of NYI rough finish to the season followed by a need for Defense after Romanov made a name for himself in the playoffs as a Huge Hitter after laying out Pietrangelo clean.


Zegras again would be Situational and lets say ANA reunites Vatrano with his center Reinhart ANA now has the room ,and then some
The right draft pick this year (Top 3 would set them up big) along with a big return for Zegras and adding Gauthier , Their rebuilds over as they got depth on all fronts


1st this year has value to the point i'd almost rather keep the WPG pick and trade the CGY one
Barron gives them a player who should be in the NHL log jammed into a AHL role like Jordan Spence was in LAK for over a year based on him having Waiver Exempt Status more or less but i digress.

Farrell i'd rather keep and offer up Kidney, Kappnen or Beck as all 3 are playing for 1 job that Dach is more likely to lock down
Farrell is a speedy playmaker with great vision and on a team accumulating Goal Scorer but has no elite Playmakers, developing Farrell is important for us right now.
On paper ANA would get more Value then COL or CHI did from us if you take 1st in 2025 , Barron and Beck that 's two 1st round picks with Barron being a former and Beck the 1st pick in the 2nd round who has chemistry playing with McTavish at Junior and Team Canada levels for Zegras.

Before Zegras's wedge with his team this year after their contract talks didnt go smoothly , that was where me and a few ANA fans were at with Zegras Value.
The only way that increased was with ANA RS 50% for 2 remaining year at which point they'd get a 2nd in 2026 and an upgrade from the CGY pick to the WPG one this year. Which for the record is more then i'd likely get for Caufield who like Gallagher has a value worth more then cash or any trade can replace
(and hughes would never sign him a blank check like MB did Gally as a big F you on his way out to ownership, Hence no GM job or real power since but i digress)
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Mar. 31 at 8:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Billy316
Business in a Capitalistic Society is Supply vs Demand with the exception of someone using Leverage to their advantage ,them's the rules of business 10/10 , 100/100 and a 1000/1000. I talk with ANA fans and have this debate often , a few of which i speak with above where we literally touch back on conversations we had about everything you just said and more. Zegras is great , i want him at the right price. Barron is a great player and ANA wants him at the right price. (Harris less so but would take with a top 15 pick this year basically). Same as they want to sell him at the right price even if that means sitting on him during a decline after a new contract(We did that with Petry too and it worked out so its logical"

As for other Draft Day Deals they were situational as is the Zegras trade now.
Circumstances beyond their immediate control given the context of their said situations.
Same reason CHI got a ridiculous return for Hagel from TBL based on Situational needs and leverage.

Teams get less too sometimes for the same reason like LAK who had a Surplus of Valuable D for too long. They ended up selling low on Durzi, Walker and Grans
MTL has done the same potentially if we dont move Savard and Kovacevic out in their final years , its the cost of doing business sometimes.

All that said there is NO WAY we get Newhook that cheap unless Colton Ross was there to help upgrade and bridge the gap cause they NEEDED Newhook to become Kadri's replacement basically as his ELC expired . He wasnt ready Colton was closer and COL seeing their window is getting tighter with this core made a change.

Dach was trade like Danault for nothing cause of injury issues in CHI
CHI hedged their bets and lost again in my books. That said Danault rise was consistent and relatively injury free so Dach could still bust.
Regardless Dach was acquired because KK left and MB final move as GM was to replace him with Dvorak paying more then CAR did for KK or MTL did for Dach
Situation was only possible because of NYI rough finish to the season followed by a need for Defense after Romanov made a name for himself in the playoffs as a Huge Hitter after laying out Pietrangelo clean.


Zegras again would be Situational and lets say ANA reunites Vatrano with his center Reinhart ANA now has the room ,and then some
The right draft pick this year (Top 3 would set them up big) along with a big return for Zegras and adding Gauthier , Their rebuilds over as they got depth on all fronts


1st this year has value to the point i'd almost rather keep the WPG pick and trade the CGY one
Barron gives them a player who should be in the NHL log jammed into a AHL role like Jordan Spence was in LAK for over a year based on him having Waiver Exempt Status more or less but i digress.

Farrell i'd rather keep and offer up Kidney, Kappnen or Beck as all 3 are playing for 1 job that Dach is more likely to lock down
Farrell is a speedy playmaker with great vision and on a team accumulating Goal Scorer but has no elite Playmakers, developing Farrell is important for us right now.
On paper ANA would get more Value then COL or CHI did from us if you take 1st in 2025 , Barron and Beck that 's two 1st round picks with Barron being a former and Beck the 1st pick in the 2nd round who has chemistry playing with McTavish at Junior and Team Canada levels for Zegras.

Before Zegras's wedge with his team this year after their contract talks didnt go smoothly , that was where me and a few ANA fans were at with Zegras Value.
The only way that increased was with ANA RS 50% for 2 remaining year at which point they'd get a 2nd in 2026 and an upgrade from the CGY pick to the WPG one this year. Which for the record is more then i'd likely get for Caufield who like Gallagher has a value worth more then cash or any trade can replace
(and hughes would never sign him a blank check like MB did Gally as a big F you on his way out to ownership, Hence no GM job or real power since but i digress)


I fully agree w/too many examples of leverage used and teams selling low like NYI on Devon Toews with 2 2nds added. That price was a lower price than the price on Dvorak from Arizona.
And, no one is saying Dvorak is a better player than a top10 Dman in Toews. You cant look at trades in a vaccuum!

What ppl also arent talking about is the Jets current 6 game losing streak with teams like Tampa, the Leafs and Nashville all catching up. This could be a top20 pick which greatly changes the clubs thinking about using the pick IF you have a Beckett Sennecke available for example whos a big power forward with elite skill. This draft looks better and better and I see 20 legit potential stars in the 1st round without the Zegras baggage. Eiserman was the clear number 2 pick a few months back and is still dominating while scoring at a high level yet many prospects have been playing so well with such promise that they have passed him and Eiserman has fallen around the teens. There are 21-23 really good potential players available this year.

Again using leverage and timing, the closer to the draft, the more these picks become valuable once the draft profiles become more well known and you'll see a players like Burakovsky and Turbo traded for nothing more than cap space and a pick or two. I'm looking squarely at guys like Lundell, Kakko that could be had for pennies on the dollar.

The Zegras headache will rear its ugly head whether you think he's this bonafide superstar or not, there are better options out there which lowers his value. Just like Debrincat whos a 40 goal scorer. That is supply and demand. Yes, you can say they dont have to trade him but this is a hypothetical trade site so that isn't even how this site is supposed to be used so you cant use that logic, it's an oxymoron. They are trading him if he's included in an ACGM and you work with that reality because this isnt reality.
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Mar. 31 at 10:25 a.m.
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I fully agree w/too many examples of leverage used and teams selling low like NYI on Devon Toews with 2 2nds added. That price was a lower price than the price on Dvorak from Arizona.
And, no one is saying Dvorak is a better player than a top10 Dman in Toews. You cant look at trades in a vaccuum!

What ppl also arent talking about is the Jets current 6 game losing streak with teams like Tampa, the Leafs and Nashville all catching up. This could be a top20 pick which greatly changes the clubs thinking about using the pick IF you have a Beckett Sennecke available for example whos a big power forward with elite skill. This draft looks better and better and I see 20 legit potential stars in the 1st round without the Zegras baggage. Eiserman was the clear number 2 pick a few months back and is still dominating while scoring at a high level yet many prospects have been playing so well with such promise that they have passed him and Eiserman has fallen around the teens. There are 21-23 really good potential players available this year.

Again using leverage and timing, the closer to the draft, the more these picks become valuable once the draft profiles become more well known and you'll see a players like Burakovsky and Turbo traded for nothing more than cap space and a pick or two. I'm looking squarely at guys like Lundell, Kakko that could be had for pennies on the dollar.

The Zegras headache will rear its ugly head whether you think he's this bonafide superstar or not, there are better options out there which lowers his value. Just like Debrincat whos a 40 goal scorer. That is supply and demand. Yes, you can say they dont have to trade him but this is a hypothetical trade site so that isn't even how this site is supposed to be used so you cant use that logic, it's an oxymoron. They are trading him if he's included in an ACGM and you work with that reality because this isnt reality.


I get what you're saying but i wasnt arguing it as a rule , i was addressing a statement directly.
You look at Trades in Context to his Statement about Dach/Newhook , Nothing More.

You are right about the Pick and its value
You're also right about the post playoff hard look in the mirror almost all teams will face leading to players being moved out for the variables you mentioned.

Zegras has 2 years ,is a pending RFA after that and MTL will get back what it invests as long as they dont overpay.
Debrincat's a 40 goal scorer on non Playoff teams which is as impressive to me and Zegras is to you.

Also this site was ripped off my Cousins friends design who founded Capgeek.com
He closed it down because that was his vision as you stated it wasnt going to be honored and he couldnt anticipate Capfriendly doing what they did.
This site's owners have Reprimanded me already for pointing this out before as im sure they will again now with some lame excuse justifying it.
They have no interest in honoring Capgeek.com they just wanted to cash in on what was built already against a dead mans dying wishes.
Their hope is your forget they're different sites and this one's designed to promote Fantasy Hockey period the gate way drug equivalent to Gambling on Sports.


They even took away the rating system for posts. from 1/5 stars and any way to reinforce the original concept for Capgeek.com
As i get older the one thing ive realized is we better get used to those after us to claim out successes as their own before diminishing the integrity of the creators vision.
I'd love a site where it is how you state but that isnt how this site works, the Admins dont want that.
 
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