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Team: 2024-25 New Jersey Devils
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    Apr. 10 at 1:46 p.m.
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    OTT would pass, the D they would want for Brady is named Nemec, if he aint there no Brady for NJD
    Apr. 10 at 1:48 p.m.
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    Palat vetoes the trade with Ottawa.
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    Apr. 10 at 1:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: athrin
    OTT would pass, the D they would want for Brady is named Nemec, if he aint there no Brady for NJD


    sens definitely consider that offer lmfao.
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    Apr. 10 at 2:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    Ottawa accepts if Palat waives his NMC.

    Athrin is the worst Sens homer on Capfriendly.


    was gonna say, Ottawa is getting a haul of roster players/young guys, including a top-10 pick in a loaded, top-heavy draft and a second and third. the offer isnt insignificant what you normally see on here
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    Apr. 10 at 2:13 p.m.
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    Holy overpay.

    Reminder that Brady Tkachuk has the same PPG, worse goals per game, and worse defensive metrics than Meier did before he was traded.
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    Apr. 10 at 2:30 p.m.
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    was gonna say, Ottawa is getting a haul of roster players/young guys, including a top-10 pick in a loaded, top-heavy draft and a second and third. the offer isnt insignificant what you normally see on here


    Palat’s contract isn’t appealing at all, especially given his contract.

    It you remove Joseph and Palat I think it looks a lot better.
    Apr. 10 at 2:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
    Palat’s contract isn’t appealing at all, especially given his contract.

    It you remove Joseph and Palat I think it looks a lot better.


    1st+2nd+3rd+Mercer+Holtz+Marino for Brady Tkachuk. No **** that looks better. Because it's would be a massive overpay. and more than any trade that's happened in decades.

    That would legitimately be DOUBLE what Jack Eichel got.

    NJD top 10 1st=2 later 1sts

    1st+Marino+Holtz=Eichel package

    1st+mercer+2nd+3rd=Eichel package
    Apr. 10 at 2:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: dgibb10
    1st+2nd+3rd+Mercer+Holtz+Marino for Brady Tkachuk. No **** that looks better. Because it's would be a massive overpay. and more than any trade that's happened in decades.


    I didn’t say it wasn’t.

    Mercer and Holtz are due for new contracts which will carry big raises. But If it makes you feel any better you can keep Holtz, not sold he’s shaken all the bust talk.

    1st, 2nd, Mercer, Marino is more than fair.
    Apr. 10 at 2:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
    I didn’t say it wasn’t.

    Mercer and Holtz are due for new contracts which will carry big raises. But If it makes you feel any better you can keep Holtz, not sold he’s shaken all the bust talk.

    1st, 2nd, Mercer, Marino is more than fair.


    Again, still significantly more than the Eichel package with a top 10 1st and Mercer vs Krebs+ VGK 1st being a massive gap.

    For a sub PPG winger.

    Since he has identical production (realistically worse) than Meier did pretrade, but he is younger.

    2024 1st+Holtz/Casey+2025 2nd that can upgrade to a 1st.

    Or you can have
    2025 1st+2026 1st+
    your choice of Marino/Holtz/Casey/2027 1st

    Or
    Hamilton+2024 1st (if he'd waive)
    Apr. 10 at 2:53 p.m.
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    I mean yeah, the Sens would certainly have to consider this. 2RD they've been needing, Holtz and Mercer are obviously good pieces, and then a proper good pick. I really don't see Brady getting traded and I think if he did, the Sens would probably be more in the game of trying to get another *really* high quality asset in return, rather than value in the aggregate. but as far as that goes, yeah this is by no means a poor offer
    Apr. 10 at 2:58 p.m.
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    Flames decline
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    Apr. 10 at 3:52 p.m.
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    Hell of an offer, damnnn. Dunno if Staios could pass on that.
    Apr. 10 at 7:40 p.m.
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    Palat vetoes a trade to Ottawa.

    And Flames ownership already said no to retaining on Jacob Markstrom. Detroit would take him at full value.
    Apr. 13 at 4:48 a.m.
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    Quoting: dgibb10
    Again, still significantly more than the Eichel package with a top 10 1st and Mercer vs Krebs+ VGK 1st being a massive gap.

    For a sub PPG winger.

    Since he has identical production (realistically worse) than Meier did pretrade, but he is younger.

    2024 1st+Holtz/Casey+2025 2nd that can upgrade to a 1st.

    Or you can have
    2025 1st+2026 1st+
    your choice of Marino/Holtz/Casey/2027 1st

    Or
    Hamilton+2024 1st (if he'd waive)


    You mention Meier then mention Brady is younger as if that doesnt change the entire dynamic of a potential trade. Brady is better and younger than Meier, which means that he will likely continue to be better than Meier for longer than Meier. Brady is in his D+6 year with 35G and 70P in 78GP, Meier in his D+6 year put up 12G and 31P in 54GP. Meier has three 30G seasons in the league, Brady does as well but while being three years younger. He also plays a completely different game, they're both power forwards but Brady is significantly more physical while being the 'drag your teammates into battle' type, literally broke the record for hits in a game last week while scoring and being arguably the best player on the ice against the same Devils we're talking about. You said 'all this for a ppg winger' like he wasnt over a ppg last year and isnt just behind that pace this year on a very mediocre o. But you know who's never been a ppg winger for any single season theyve been in the league? Meier. But please, explain how Brady's production was worse pre-trade. This is all without mentioning how badly the Sharks got played in the trade.

    The voting on the trade thread had 149 votes for Devils winning the trade, 20 for the Sharks and 33 said fair deal.....

    And we cant just ignore the circumstances of the Eichel trade. He forced his way out of Buffalo with almost the entire hockey world looking at him sideways while he lobbied for a spinal fusion that had never been done to a hockey player and you could count on less than one hand the number of athletes that had ever successfully undergone the surgery. He hand picked Vegas and they were supposedly one of the only teams that were open to EIchel making his own medical decisions. Saying Buffalo was handcuffed by that situation is an understatement. Eichel held them hostage and it was reflected in the return.

    The voting on the trade thread had 143 votes for Vegas winning the trade, 38 for the Sabres and 29 said fair deal....

    Comparing either situation to a potential Brady trade is ridiculous. Brady has said consistently that he wants to win in Ottawa, he'd do anything to make that happen and his play backs that up. He is the team. He's the captain. If a Brady trade happens it's because someone has come asking not because Ottawa is looking to move him. That automatically changes how negotiations take place and would of course lead to a better return than if he was forcing his way out, like his brother, and the team was forced to deal with one hand tied behind their back.
    Apr. 13 at 7:43 a.m.
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    Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
    You mention Meier then mention Brady is younger as if that doesnt change the entire dynamic of a potential trade. Brady is better and younger than Meier, which means that he will likely continue to be better than Meier for longer than Meier. Brady is in his D+6 year with 35G and 70P in 78GP, Meier in his D+6 year put up 12G and 31P in 54GP. Meier has three 30G seasons in the league, Brady does as well but while being three years younger. He also plays a completely different game, they're both power forwards but Brady is significantly more physical while being the 'drag your teammates into battle' type, literally broke the record for hits in a game last week while scoring and being arguably the best player on the ice against the same Devils we're talking about. You said 'all this for a ppg winger' like he wasnt over a ppg last year and isnt just behind that pace this year on a very mediocre o. But you know who's never been a ppg winger for any single season theyve been in the league? Meier. But please, explain how Brady's production was worse pre-trade. This is all without mentioning how badly the Sharks got played in the trade.

    The voting on the trade thread had 149 votes for Devils winning the trade, 20 for the Sharks and 33 said fair deal.....

    And we cant just ignore the circumstances of the Eichel trade. He forced his way out of Buffalo with almost the entire hockey world looking at him sideways while he lobbied for a spinal fusion that had never been done to a hockey player and you could count on less than one hand the number of athletes that had ever successfully undergone the surgery. He hand picked Vegas and they were supposedly one of the only teams that were open to EIchel making his own medical decisions. Saying Buffalo was handcuffed by that situation is an understatement. Eichel held them hostage and it was reflected in the return.

    The voting on the trade thread had 143 votes for Vegas winning the trade, 38 for the Sabres and 29 said fair deal....

    Comparing either situation to a potential Brady trade is ridiculous. Brady has said consistently that he wants to win in Ottawa, he'd do anything to make that happen and his play backs that up. He is the team. He's the captain. If a Brady trade happens it's because someone has come asking not because Ottawa is looking to move him. That automatically changes how negotiations take place and would of course lead to a better return than if he was forcing his way out, like his brother, and the team was forced to deal with one hand tied behind their back.


    Brady was not anything close to the best player on the ice in that devils game lmao

    Every. single. Time.

    A true star is traded, fans are shocked that it is isn’t for more. They never learn.

    In the 2 years pre trade. Meier had the same PPG as Tkachuk does the last two years, with more goals per game and better defensive metrics. That is what I mean by better production.

    I’d rather have more goals and better defense

    You apparently would rather have more hits and fights
    Apr. 13 at 12:36 p.m.
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    Brady was not anything close to the best player on the ice in that devils game lmao

    Every. single. Time.

    A true star is traded, fans are shocked that it is isn’t for more. They never learn.

    In the 2 years pre trade. Meier had the same PPG as Tkachuk does the last two years, with more goals per game and better defensive metrics. That is what I mean by better production.

    I’d rather have more goals and better defense

    You apparently would rather have more hits and fights


    I was at that game at Brady was a spark plug. The only reason Ottawa got back into it after the Devils tried their best to collapse. The same game he set the hit record.

    Your whole argument is apples to oranges. Meier's first three years in the league were on significantly better teams than any single team that Brady has played on in his career. You think its a coincidence that his best statistical year before two seasons ago was the same year they went to the conference finals?

    Presently you should expect Meier to be producing better considering that he's 27 and in the middle of his prime where Brady is just entering his at 24. But you're here talking about how Meier had "more goals" the two years leading up to the trade as if it was some massive gap. It was one goal. One. And if expand the criteria to 3 years pre-trade then Brady has more, 4 years pre-trade and Brady still has more. He also has more this year again and on a worse team then Meier is playing on so youre not making the point that you think you are. Even accounting for the games Meier missed he's only on a 33G pace. Not to mention the Devils have a top 10 offence in the league while the Senators are dead middle of the pack.

    Brady's also had almost everyone around him miss time this year, affecting his stats in much the same way the Im sure Bratt wouldve breezed past 90P if Hughes/Meier/Hischier etc didnt all miss chunks of time.

    Objectively, I dont think any NHL exec's or neutral fans would take Meier over Brady. If the swap was one for one NJ would have to add so its only natural that, even without taking circumstance into consideration, the return for Brady would be more than what Sj received for Meier.

    But speaking of that trade specifically, the wild part is that I did leave the circumstances of the Meier trade out but since youre adamant about continuing the discussion lets talk about it. San Jose looked terrible. Meier was due a massive raise as a RFA that the Sharks werent interested in paying considering the direction of the team. So they actively looked to move him. NJ acquires him at a significantly lower price than they would have paid if Meier had term on his deal and they were trying to pry him out of SJ. Trading for a player that could potentially try to walk in a year or two if they force a bridge deal, a la DeBrincat, is not as appealing as a young player with term on their deal.

    They basically traded a 1st, 2nd, 5th, 7th, an okay prospect, and a bottom 6 warm body. You make that trade ten times out of ten and that was reflected in the open poll attached to the trade. No objective fan thinks thats equal value let alone SJ coming out on top.

    And to your point about star players not getting what fans expect. I'm not sure how often captains get traded and what the returns look like but I read a devils article mentioning the possibility of a Brady/Hischier swap and that the last time two captains were swapped was St Louis and a 2nd for Callahan and two 1sts. I would say that was more than fair value for Marty and realistically both teams won. More recently, the Chychrun trade comes to mind as Ottawa paying more than fair value for a young 'star' with term. Obscure references, sure, theyre just the first ones to come to mind but I also know if i combed through trades it certainly isnt every single time that teams take less for young talent, especially when there is term attached to the young players involved.

    Sorry if the reply is long again but I do have to say that as much as we disagree I appreciate the discussion and I wish nothing but the best for the Devils. I think we all know that Brady can't really ever be moved unless the team wants fans to burn the arena down and even though the deal we're discussing doesnt include Nemec, the Devils arent really in a position to be moving dmen out but it is interesting getting into these hypothetical discussions nonetheless so thank you.
    May 6 at 10:23 p.m.
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    Palat vetoes the trade with Ottawa.

    Sorry to see that your entirely accurate second comment in this thread received some criticism. I second your opinion and offer my sympathy.
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