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Created by: A_K
Team: 2024-25 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 18, 2024
Published: Apr. 18, 2024
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How bout more retooling and building, but they get some reclamation projects to work out this time... who would you take a flyer on?

Bonus hot take, purely optional - trade Binner while his value is high (remember goalies aren't getting massive returns) and that way the retool actually might get a high draft pick.

If they moved up, who are you taking at 10?

If playoffs are out of reach, gotta imagine Buchy gets moved this time around :/ Bright side it would open the door for Dvorsky to finish the year with the big club in a bigger role.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
2$1,250,000
1$800,000
1$900,000
2$1,400,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,250,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Buchnevich, Pavel before TDL
1$5,800,000
Trades
1.
STL
  1. Kaliyev, Arthur [RFA Rights]
LAK
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
pick becomes 2025 2nd if Kaliyev scores 20+ goals in 2024-25
2.
STL
  1. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
draft floor trade; per PuckPedia #10 and #75 swapped for #16 leaves a surplus equal to pick #28
NJD
  1. Binnington, Jordan
  2. 2024 1st round pick (STL)
3.
STL
  1. Akey, Beau
  2. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
2025 TDL move
EDM
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel ($2,900,000 retained)
4.
STL
PIT
  1. Leddy, Nick ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. 2025 4th round pick (STL)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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Logo of the EDM
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,700,000$74,220,595$0$412,500$13,479,405
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
LW
RFA - 2
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
C, RW
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$835,833$835,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Buchnevich, Pavel before TDL
$5,800,000$5,800,000
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
RW
UFA - 7
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
RFA
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$775,000$775,000
G
RFA - 1
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
RFA
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD
RFA
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$800,000$800,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$800,000$800,000
C
RFA
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$800,000$800,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1

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Apr. 18 at 12:14 p.m.
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If our direction is to be worse next season than this I don't dislike any of the moves aside from the Leddy to Pittsburgh move.

However, as exciting as it is picking 10th vs 16th, I don't think it makes all too much of a difference once you look 5 years down the road. Don't get me wrong I would love for the Blues to trade up, but I don't think we're at the point where we can trade Binnington and not crumble. We may not make playoffs again next year, but after this year you have to expect the expectation would be to do so from the front office and from the players alone. Culture and belief in being able to win isn't something that's really too popular on here because you can't quantify it and compare. But I'd venture to guess if we made 2 or 3 moves to sell off pieces and finished towards the bottom of the league next year it would be crippling to the young core that we're building right now.
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Apr. 18 at 12:23 p.m.
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Quoting: AC14
If our direction is to be worse next season than this I don't dislike any of the moves aside from the Leddy to Pittsburgh move.

However, as exciting as it is picking 10th vs 16th, I don't think it makes all too much of a difference once you look 5 years down the road. Don't get me wrong I would love for the Blues to trade up, but I don't think we're at the point where we can trade Binnington and not crumble. We may not make playoffs again next year, but after this year you have to expect the expectation would be to do so from the front office and from the players alone. Culture and belief in being able to win isn't something that's really too popular on here because you can't quantify it and compare. But I'd venture to guess if we made 2 or 3 moves to sell off pieces and finished towards the bottom of the league next year it would be crippling to the young core that we're building right now.


To be honest there's so many different things going on with this team right now that I can't tell what direction is the right way to go. Hopefully Doug chooses one.

By my assessment though, rougher goaltending would've made this season the low-water mark. Now that might still happen this-coming year - with or without a Binner/Hofer combo (goaltending can be fickle). As exciting and promising as some of the younger guys are, they're not all here yet. And the veterans are just getting another year older, slower, etc. Wouldn't be the worst thing to be patient for another year and try to make some low-risk, high-reward moves to set up for the future.
Apr. 18 at 12:25 p.m.
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Quoting: AC14
If our direction is to be worse next season than this I don't dislike any of the moves aside from the Leddy to Pittsburgh move.

However, as exciting as it is picking 10th vs 16th, I don't think it makes all too much of a difference once you look 5 years down the road. Don't get me wrong I would love for the Blues to trade up, but I don't think we're at the point where we can trade Binnington and not crumble. We may not make playoffs again next year, but after this year you have to expect the expectation would be to do so from the front office and from the players alone. Culture and belief in being able to win isn't something that's really too popular on here because you can't quantify it and compare. But I'd venture to guess if we made 2 or 3 moves to sell off pieces and finished towards the bottom of the league next year it would be crippling to the young core that we're building right now.


Well said. Couldn't agree more.
Apr. 18 at 12:27 p.m.
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I would not pay a 1st for Binnington at 6 mill
Apr. 18 at 12:33 p.m.
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Well said. Couldn't agree more.


Counterpoint: Binner has 3 years left. How many of those years will this team be cup contenders? if trading guys from a non-playoff team that aren't necessarily a part of the next cup window is damaging to the culture and belief of the hockey team, that just means we don't have a strong enough future core. It's a business, if a guy has trade value and trading him can help down the road, the guys that are still here are going to have to cope.
Apr. 18 at 1:15 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
I would not pay a 1st for Binnington at 6 mill


How would you go about fixing the goaltending? I don’t think Allen is the answer, he’s a good backup or 1B.
Apr. 18 at 1:17 p.m.
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Quoting: A_K
How would you go about fixing the goaltending? I don’t think Allen is the answer, he’s a good backup or 1B.


Ullmark would be my priority.

But if the goalie market is overpriced I'd rather focus on building the bottom 6 and Dcore.

I'd rather use that 1st and 6 mill to get a great LHD.
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Apr. 18 at 1:18 p.m.
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To be honest there's so many different things going on with this team right now that I can't tell what direction is the right way to go. Hopefully Doug chooses one.

By my assessment though, rougher goaltending would've made this season the low-water mark. Now that might still happen this-coming year - with or without a Binner/Hofer combo (goaltending can be fickle). As exciting and promising as some of the younger guys are, they're not all here yet. And the veterans are just getting another year older, slower, etc. Wouldn't be the worst thing to be patient for another year and try to make some low-risk, high-reward moves to set up for the future.


I’m more concerned about the Kyrou and Thomas iteration of the core. I’d consider those two and Parayko the core currently.

I think the most beneficial thing we could do would be to add a solid defenseman in the 24-27 age range. However in order to do that, we’re going to have to cut bait with either Krug or Faulk which I don’t think is a huge deal.

Ultimately I think the plan will be to middle out like this while contracts expire and then once they do make a large splash with a UFA defenseman if we can’t find one before. The issue with that is it’s rare those higher end caliber defenseman hit UFA status, because as we can all see, when you let one go you create a massive problem trying to stop gap or piece together the hole that’s left behind.

It’s definitely not a perfect plan, but there really is no perfect plan. I’d imagine we try and find a way to address a 2nd line center and move out a defenseman in hopes of adding another that can profile to be more of a two-way guy than we currently have.

I’d be shocked if our first pick in this draft was a forward, but there’s certainly an avenue where that could happen.

Truthfully I know it’s very unlikely, but I would move our 1st if we could get a guy like Harley out of Dallas.
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Apr. 18 at 1:25 p.m.
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I’m more concerned about the Kyrou and Thomas iteration of the core. I’d consider those two and Parayko the core currently.

I think the most beneficial thing we could do would be to add a solid defenseman in the 24-27 age range. However in order to do that, we’re going to have to cut bait with either Krug or Faulk which I don’t think is a huge deal.

Ultimately I think the plan will be to middle out like this while contracts expire and then once they do make a large splash with a UFA defenseman if we can’t find one before. The issue with that is it’s rare those higher end caliber defenseman hit UFA status, because as we can all see, when you let one go you create a massive problem trying to stop gap or piece together the hole that’s left behind.

It’s definitely not a perfect plan, but there really is no perfect plan. I’d imagine we try and find a way to address a 2nd line center and move out a defenseman in hopes of adding another that can profile to be more of a two-way guy than we currently have.

I’d be shocked if our first pick in this draft was a forward, but there’s certainly an avenue where that could happen.

Truthfully I know it’s very unlikely, but I would move our 1st if we could get a guy like Harley out of Dallas.


Large UFA splash like shea Theodore next summer would be amazing altho Vegas has done the tough moves to keep guys around in the past so I won’t hold my breath.
Apr. 19 at 2:54 a.m.
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you stuck with Leddy, that's no improvement for the penguins blue line.
While I don't like POJ, I'd rather swap him for another young player on another team than needs a change of scene.
 
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