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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup

Tue. at 12:12 a.m.
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Florida are so well coached. Gonna take a miracle for Edmonton.


That was a dominant performance by FLA. They're one of the best defensive teams I've ever seen. EDM really had no high danger chances and the one goal was a shot that Bob will save 95% of the time.
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Tue. at 12:16 a.m.
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Oilers have nice sweaters...
Tue. at 7:10 a.m.
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does anyone know a website where I can go to discuss hockey that isnt toxic and stupid, I only other website I have tried is OilersNation and there is no way I'm going back there with the super bias and delusional users and the copy and paste articles


Well there’s no place that doesn’t have toxic/stupid users but you might find likeminded communities on Discord, Twitter (if you’re into that hellscape), etc
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Tue. at 12:13 p.m.
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does anyone know a website where I can go to discuss hockey that isnt toxic and stupid, I only other website I have tried is OilersNation and there is no way I'm going back there with the super bias and delusional users and the copy and paste articles


we have a Twitter gc of a lot of guys from this thread if you wanna join that
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Tue. at 12:18 p.m.
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I think they take 1 game back home but its looking more and more like FLA in 5

Man though if FLA sweeps its a bruh moment


To be fair man it's already a small miracle that the Oilers are in the SC Final as they have the Nurse and Campbell contracts to deal with
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Tue. at 2:44 p.m.
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To be fair man it's already a small miracle that the Oilers are in the SC Final as they have the Nurse and Campbell contracts to deal with


really not a miracle lol.
Tue. at 3:15 p.m.
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Edited Tue. at 3:27 p.m.
Quoting: gary_
really not a miracle lol.


Lets be real it was a small miracle

Considering DAL ran out of gas and VAN didnt have its starter cant really argue otherwise lul

Cause if Van had Demko or DAL played with the same energy they had when they faced VGK or AVS, EDM probs would be watching the finals rn
Tue. at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: WJC_Enthusiast
To be fair man it's already a small miracle that the Oilers are in the SC Final as they have the Nurse and Campbell contracts to deal with


You could argue the miracle was R2 and R3 their opponents not being 100%

Demko being there for Van or DAL having the same energy they had vs. VGK or AVS IMO would have made for a different finals IMO as to who of those two would have been FLA opponent who knows lul
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Tue. at 3:47 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Lets be real it was a small miracle

Considering DAL ran out of gas and VAN didnt have its starter cant really argue otherwise lul

Cause if Van had Demko or DAL played with the same energy they had when they faced VGK or AVS, EDM probs would be watching the finals rn


so first it was dallas in 4 or 5, now since we beat them and they had next to no injuries, they were to "tired"? that's some coping my friend. None of the games against vancouver were decided by goaltending, in fact they lost to a AHL goalie, and put up 6 shots 2/3 into a game seven, couldn't score on their pp, there wasn't a single game where Silovs was at fault.
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Tue. at 4:06 p.m.
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so first it was dallas in 4 or 5, now since we beat them and they had next to no injuries, they were to "tired"? that's some coping my friend. None of the games against vancouver were decided by goaltending, in fact they lost to a AHL goalie, and put up 6 shots 2/3 into a game seven, couldn't score on their pp, there wasn't a single game where Silovs was at fault.


Mostly everyone agreed DAL were tired and out of gas by the time they got to the WCF. Look how they played vs. AVS or VGK vs. EDM night and day different

And lets be real if Demko was in net in the Van vs. Edm series we all know Van would probs have faced DAL in the WCF. Silvos was good as he could be but he was Van's #3 and thats a handicap. Got them to 7 but come on its pretty obvious if Demko was there what would have happened lul.

Again a small miracle whether people like it or not
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Tue. at 4:12 p.m.
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Everyone agreed DAL were tired. Look how they played vs. AVS or VGK vs. EDM night and day different

And lets be real if Demko was in net in the Van vs. Edm series we all know Van would probs have faced DAL in the WCF. Silvos was good but he was Van's #3 and thats a handicap. Got them to 7 but still if Van had their way it would be Demko all day every day as a 0.920 in 14 games vs. EDM is a pretty case for him


lol that's still such a big "what if" because Edmonton still beat Otter, who is also arguably a top 8 goalie. Congrats to Dallas for beating the avs with drouin missing time, val and landeskog gone. Its the playoffs, using fatigue as an excuse is simply pathetic.
Tue. at 4:13 p.m.
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lol that's still such a big "what if" because Edmonton still beat Otter, who is also arguably a top 8 goalie. Congrats to Dallas for beating the avs with drouin missing time, val and landeskog gone. Its the playoffs, using fatigue as an excuse is simply pathetic.


Otter's young and has some way to go and at times these playoffs showed inconsistencies we saw it in the AVS and VGK series but the way DAL played in front helped to overlook those issues. In EDM they ran out of gas and could not cover for those issues when they arose happens at times when the previous opponents were tougher

And its not really pathetic as lets be real if EDM were to have gone through the same route DAL went through would be singing a different tune. As DAL would trade facing the 2 former SCC for LAK and Van with their #3 lul. Even if AVS were missing some guys they had playoff McKinnon lul

Again think what yah want but most agree small miracle. As many teams would happily trade for the route EDM went through especially FLA lul.

LAK, Van with their #3, and a tired DAL team vs. VGK and AVS or TBL, BOS, NYR score one for the easy but now no more
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Tue. at 4:24 p.m.
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So I guess game 3's gonna be open season for hits lul

As now we know you can leave your feet and target up high and DOPS wont do a thing lul

Expect prison rules gm 3
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Tue. at 5:43 p.m.
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Tue. at 5:48 p.m.
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Otter's young and has some way to go and at times these playoffs showed inconsistencies we saw it in the AVS and VGK series but the way DAL played in front helped to overlook those issues. In EDM they ran out of gas and could not cover for those issues when they arose happens at times when the previous opponents were tougher

And its not really pathetic as lets be real if EDM were to have gone through the same route DAL went through would be singing a different tune. As DAL would trade facing the 2 former SCC for LAK and Van with their #3 lul. Even if AVS were missing some guys they had playoff McKinnon lul

Again think what yah want but most agree small miracle. As many teams would happily trade for the route EDM went through especially FLA lul.

LAK, Van with their #3, and a tired DAL team vs. VGK and AVS or TBL, BOS, NYR score one for the easy but now no more


Tampa>LA, Van>boston, Dallas> NYR, no one on nyr showed up except igor, and I'd hope you'd beat the bruins when Zacha, Coyle, and Morgan geekie are your top centers lmao.
Also what does age exactly have to do with anything? Otter has 26 less regular season games, and 42 more playoff games than Demko. Good for Demko for putting up a good save % in a mickey mouse playoffs I guess.... if you're gonna reply, try and put together a good argument rather than saying Dallas was "tired" despite having a longer break between rounds 2 - 3 than Edmonton.
Tue. at 5:54 p.m.
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Dana White discussion on NHL just keeps coming back lul

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xAaHMLnW_uU

NHL should be embracing CF heck buy it themselves and combine it with Edge but nope they want to go old school

One day Bettman will be gone and hopefully they will bring in someone younger and who has new fresh ideas but thats doubtful lul
Tue. at 7:47 p.m.
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Dana White discussion on NHL just keeps coming back lul

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xAaHMLnW_uU

NHL should be embracing CF heck buy it themselves and combine it with Edge but nope they want to go old school

One day Bettman will be gone and hopefully they will bring in someone younger and who has new fresh ideas but thats doubtful lul


It's wild because Dana White is also apparently starting an Electric NASCAR series, I guess he wants a piece of everything.
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Tue. at 7:55 p.m.
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It's wild because Dana White is also apparently starting an Electric NASCAR series, I guess he wants a piece of everything.


Hey if he can have 2 guys slapping eachother get more views than last years SCF must be doing something right. Guy sees opportunity and goes for it pretty neat

Honestly we need someone like him running the NHL where they know how to reach the younger generation and will put fresh new ideas while also making the owners and league $$$$$
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Wed. at 9:59 a.m.
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Tampa>LA, Van>boston, Dallas> NYR, no one on nyr showed up except igor, and I'd hope you'd beat the bruins when Zacha, Coyle, and Morgan geekie are your top centers lmao.
Also what does age exactly have to do with anything? Otter has 26 less regular season games, and 42 more playoff games than Demko. Good for Demko for putting up a good save % in a mickey mouse playoffs I guess.... if you're gonna reply, try and put together a good argument rather than saying Dallas was "tired" despite having a longer break between rounds 2 - 3 than Edmonton.


Again, you're missing the entire point,

A run down Dallas team, missing Tanev, Hintz and more during the playoffs is not better than NYR

A Vancouver team ont heir 3rd string with their best player struggling with knee issues isn't better than Boston...

Florida had the much tougher road, and it's proving itself in this series... Edmonton's lucky they got this far
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Wed. at 12:48 p.m.
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Again, you're missing the entire point,

A run down Dallas team, missing Tanev, Hintz and more during the playoffs is not better than NYR

A Vancouver team ont heir 3rd string with their best player struggling with knee issues isn't better than Boston...

Florida had the much tougher road, and it's proving itself in this series... Edmonton's lucky they got this far


Weren't you the one saying LA would walk EDM? The take aged well.

Dallas wasn't missing Tanev, Hintz missed 2 games.

Vancouver's 3rd string was one of the best goalies in playoffs, saying "third string" doesn't mean he was bad, Quinn Hughes wasn't injured at all?

Both teams had difficult paths, belittling one cause you're upset a team you don't like made the finals is pathetic.
Wed. at 1:06 p.m.
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Weren't you the one saying LA would walk EDM? The take aged well.

Dallas wasn't missing Tanev, Hintz missed 2 games.

Vancouver's 3rd string was one of the best goalies in playoffs, saying "third string" doesn't mean he was bad, Quinn Hughes wasn't injured at all?

Both teams had difficult paths, belittling one cause you're upset a team you don't like made the finals is pathetic.


Yes, I was and no, it didn't... LA went away from what made them good... The 1-3-1 trap, they were aggressive, undisciplined and lazy without the puck and that cost them

Hintz and Tanev were very obviously not themselves with Tanev going to the room and Hintz not being able to go for multiple games, that's concerning, especially concidering what guys like Tkachuk went through in the SCF

You mean the 3rd string with a .898 save percentage (Only 0.03 save percentage off of Ilya Samsonov), are you really telling me that Thatcher Demko wouldn't do much better than that... And Elias Peterson was hurt, knee injury...

Edmonton didn't have a hard road to the finals, they were just lucky the 3 behemoths of the West beat up on each other... Florida, meanwhile, had to face Tampa, the New York Rangers and Boston, all three of those teams would beat any of the 3 teams EDM faced at the time EDM faced them...
Yesterday at 3:51 p.m.
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Yes, I was and no, it didn't... LA went away from what made them good... The 1-3-1 trap, they were aggressive, undisciplined and lazy without the puck and that cost them

Hintz and Tanev were very obviously not themselves with Tanev going to the room and Hintz not being able to go for multiple games, that's concerning, especially concidering what guys like Tkachuk went through in the SCF

You mean the 3rd string with a .898 save percentage (Only 0.03 save percentage off of Ilya Samsonov), are you really telling me that Thatcher Demko wouldn't do much better than that... And Elias Peterson was hurt, knee injury...

Edmonton didn't have a hard road to the finals, they were just lucky the 3 behemoths of the West beat up on each other... Florida, meanwhile, had to face Tampa, the New York Rangers and Boston, all three of those teams would beat any of the 3 teams EDM faced at the time EDM faced them...


LA went away from it cause it wasn't working, it was a great system during the season against most teams but really hasn't worked well vs EDM.
Also EDM massively changed their system this series and it killed the offence of LA, neither of these discredit LA as being a good opponent but was the easiest matchup.

Silov's played incredible aside from game 1, I would make a genuine argument that he was Van's best player or at least top 3. I don't know why everyone is throwing him under the bus, I also don't know if Demko would've done better as Silov's played absolutely beautifully for a first time goalie (that isn't me discrediting Demko, but to discredit Silovs efforts is low). EP has a lingering leg issue since January, wouldn't say it's an injury as numerous players have those things come out after elimination (there are 5 players rumoured as injured in EDM rn).

Hintz wasn't, though he still played well at times but was insanely limited. Tanev played well the whole series, there wasn't a drop off after the ankle/foot issue.

Things can be said about Florida's path too, Vassy played poorly and Sergachev wasn't ready in TB, Marchant missed games and McAvoy dealt with a lingering upper body issue, NYR had Fox, Lindgren and Trouba with issues (Lindgren was seriously injured); It doesn't discredit a difficult path.

Neither one of the Panthers or Oilers had an easy path, LA > VAN > DAL and TB > BOS > NYR are both difficult, if you look for ways to discredit one then put an equal effort into discrediting the other otherwise it just looks like you're salty that a team you don't like made it.
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LA went away from it cause it wasn't working, it was a great system during the season against most teams but really hasn't worked well vs EDM.
Also EDM massively changed their system this series and it killed the offence of LA, neither of these discredit LA as being a good opponent but was the easiest matchup.

Silov's played incredible aside from game 1, I would make a genuine argument that he was Van's best player or at least top 3. I don't know why everyone is throwing him under the bus, I also don't know if Demko would've done better as Silov's played absolutely beautifully for a first time goalie (that isn't me discrediting Demko, but to discredit Silovs efforts is low). EP has a lingering leg issue since January, wouldn't say it's an injury as numerous players have those things come out after elimination (there are 5 players rumoured as injured in EDM rn).

Hintz wasn't, though he still played well at times but was insanely limited. Tanev played well the whole series, there wasn't a drop off after the ankle/foot issue.

Things can be said about Florida's path too, Vassy played poorly and Sergachev wasn't ready in TB, Marchant missed games and McAvoy dealt with a lingering upper body issue, NYR had Fox, Lindgren and Trouba with issues (Lindgren was seriously injured); It doesn't discredit a difficult path.

Neither one of the Panthers or Oilers had an easy path, LA > VAN > DAL and TB > BOS > NYR are both difficult, if you look for ways to discredit one then put an equal effort into discrediting the other otherwise it just looks like you're salty that a team you don't like made it.


Nah EDM had an easy path come on dont be silly. Making it to the finals is nice but lets be real anyone would have taken that route especially the eastern teams

A meh LAK team who quit on the system that made them handle teams like EDM and got smashed to Van with their #3 goalie to a tired DAL team hell yah sign me up to that

We all know if Van had Demko story would have been different as if we look goaltending decides a series and while Silvos had his moments he also let in some backbreakers at times or got overwhelmed. People dont like hearing it but its the truth

In the end if we compare it to DAL route or FLA route night and day different
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Seems the knockout attempt on Barkov failed

Based on practice reports in for game 3

How that hit didnt end in a fine or suspension is a lul moment but also unsurprising

But hey its open season now it seems lul
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Yesterday at 4:28 p.m.
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Nah EDM had an easy path come on dont be silly. Making it to the finals is nice but lets be real anyone would have taken that route especially the eastern teams

A meh LAK team who quit on the system that made them handle teams like EDM and got smashed to Van with their #3 goalie to a tired DAL team hell yah sign me up to that

We all know if Van had Demko story would have been different as if we look goaltending decides a series and while Silvos had his moments he also let in some backbreakers at times or got overwhelmed. People dont like hearing it but its the truth

In the end if we compare it to DAL route or FLA route night and day different

Cause especially for FLA going through TBL, BOS, and then president trophy winning NYR is arguably next to DAL route (had to go through the 2 former SCC) the toughest of these playoffs


LA quit on a system that wasn't working vs EDM, I would've been very happy if they stuck the 1-3-1 cause we were tearing it apart. Games 4-5 LA played well but EDM's defensive shift to a 2-1-2 shut them down and really highlighted that EDM can play some solid defence.

Story would've been different with Demko, doesn't mean it'd be better or worse, we have no idea how the series would've shaped or how Demko would've preformed. However we do know Silov's played amazing, Demko likely would've as well, going "Demko wins them the series if he's healthy" is the same as Boston fans saying "We win the cup in 2023 if Game 5 vs Florida goes our way". Neither are true, no one knows what might've happened.

DAL route sucked for them, I wouldnt compare them to either one of EDM or FLA.
But EDM and FLA were close, aside from EDM's first round which obvs TB is better than LA.
 
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