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Trading Marner And JT In The Same Deal Half Retained

Created by: KingExLeafs
Team: 2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 5, 2024
Published: May 5, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Leafs save 11.5 million in cap while getting back a big return with multiple picks, a couple of decent prospects and a few roster players making 5 million or so. The question is which team is willing to take on both at half retained likely for only one year? It has to be a team that believes it can win the Cup next year.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
5$5,500,000
5$7,500,000
2$900,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Ehlers, Nikolaj
  2. Heinola, Ville [RFA Rights]
  3. Lucius, Chaz
  4. Schmidt, Nate
  5. 2025 1st round pick (WPG)
  6. 2026 2nd round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Marner, Mitchell ($5,000,000 retained)
  2. Tavares, John ($5,500,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$87,500,000$87,479,167$0$425,000$20,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$13,250,000$13,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$5,500,000$5,500,000
C, LW
UFA
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$11,500,000$11,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
RFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$875,000$875,000
RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
$7,500,000$7,500,000
RD
UFA
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$900,000$900,000
G
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$875,000$875,000
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$843,333$843,333
G
RFA - 1

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May 5 at 5:28 p.m.
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Unless I'm missing something, this trade is not saving you 11.5M. You'd be taking back slightly more cap, dude. And that's if Lucius and Heinola don't come up.
May 5 at 5:31 p.m.
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Unless I'm missing something, this trade is not saving you 11.5M. You'd be taking back slightly more cap, dude. And that's if Lucius and Heinola don't come up.


I forgot to mention the roster players acquired won't be sticking around but will be trade assets. Teams that lose out on free agents on July 1st are always looking for trades.
May 5 at 5:34 p.m.
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I forgot to mention the roster players acquired won't be sticking around but will be trade assets. Teams that lose out on free agents on July 1st are always looking for trades.


Okay, but now I'm more confused. You're gonna trade all four of those players? For what?
May 5 at 5:38 p.m.
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jets decline
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May 5 at 5:40 p.m.
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Okay, but now I'm more confused. You're gonna trade all four of those players? For what?


No, just the roster players with big contracts. The core return in a trade like this are the picks and prospects. Leafs retain money and take back money to make the cap work for the other team. Then they offload the acquired money for late round picks, sort of like what Vancouver did when they traded Beauviller to Chicago for a 5th round pick.

I don't see any team trading for either Marner or JT at their full contracts, so the Leafs have to get creative to maximize the return.
May 5 at 5:45 p.m.
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No, just the roster players with big contracts. The core return in a trade like this are the picks and prospects. Leafs retain money and take back money to make the cap work for the other team. Then they offload the acquired money for late round picks, sort of like what Vancouver did when they traded Beauviller to Chicago for a 5th round pick.

I don't see any team trading for either Marner or JT at their full contracts, so the Leafs have to get creative to maximize the return.


So you plan to offload Ehlers and Schmidt for late round picks? 🤔 I'm super confused, man. I don't understand what you're aiming for. But if you feel like dumping thise two players cheap, do give the Blues a call first. Please and thank you.
May 5 at 5:54 p.m.
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So you plan to offload Ehlers and Schmidt for late round picks? 🤔 I'm super confused, man. I don't understand what you're aiming for. But if you feel like dumping thise two players cheap, do give the Blues a call first. Please and thank you.


The return would be cap space and a couple of picks. That's not cheap. In today's tight cap league, and with the Leafs still so top heavy with Matthews and Nylander on the books, getting cap space is paramount. Ehlers and Schmidt are not worth their current contracts. Ehlers has had only one full season in his last six years. He can't be relied upon. And Schmidt isn't a top 4 defenceman at this point in his career.
May 5 at 5:56 p.m.
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The return would be cap space and a couple of picks. That's not cheap. In today's tight cap league, and with the Leafs still so top heavy with Matthews and Nylander on the books, getting cap space is paramount. Ehlers and Schmidt are not worth their current contracts. Ehlers has had only one full season in his last six years. He can't be relied upon. And Schmidt isn't a top 4 defenceman at this point in his career.


Okay, so what is your asking price for Ehlers then?
May 5 at 6:02 p.m.
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Okay, so what is your asking price for Ehlers then?


A 2nd, maybe a late 1st if a team is willing to part with it and really likes the player. He has 14 points in 37 playoff games. He's a worse Mitch Marner. And he'll be a rental. I don't think he has a lot of value.
May 5 at 6:04 p.m.
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A 2nd, maybe a late 1st if a team is willing to part with it and really likes the player. He has 14 points in 37 playoff games. He's a worse Mitch Marner. And he'll be a rental. I don't think he has a lot of value.


Wait... since when are 1sts and 2nds " late round picks, sort of like what Vancouver did when they traded Beauviller to Chicago for a 5th round pick"?
May 5 at 6:08 p.m.
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Wait... since when are 1sts and 2nds " late round picks, sort of like what Vancouver did when they traded Beauviller to Chicago for a 5th round pick"?


I should have clarified that Schmidt would probably bring back a late round pick. Ehlers obviously has more value, but maybe a 1st is too much. I think Rielly Smith got back a 3rd for Vegas. So something like that.
May 5 at 6:25 p.m.
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Neither guy waives for the Jets and Chevy wouldn't do this anyway.

Doubt the Leafs trade either Mitch or Tavares.
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May 5 at 7:11 p.m.
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I should have clarified that Schmidt would probably bring back a late round pick. Ehlers obviously has more value, but maybe a 1st is too much. I think Rielly Smith got back a 3rd for Vegas. So something like that.


Well, if you guys somehow get Ehlers and want to move him for a 3rd and cap space, the Blues would happily oblige.
May 5 at 7:25 p.m.
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Well, if you guys somehow get Ehlers and want to move him for a 3rd and cap space, the Blues would happily oblige.


Every team in the league would happily oblige.. lol

I get Ehlers playoff performance hasn't been outstanding but he just put up a 25G/60P season which is his usual and most of it at even strength, imo thats well worth a $6M cap hit.
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May 5 at 7:27 p.m.
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I see no reason why Winnipeg would do this for 1 yr of Marner.....
May 5 at 7:36 p.m.
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I see no reason why Winnipeg would do this for 1 yr of Marner.....


They're desperate to win and sell tickets. They're not giving up much for getting two stars at half the price.
May 5 at 8:12 p.m.
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They're desperate to win and sell tickets. They're not giving up much for getting two stars at half the price.


They aren't desperate enough to win to sacrifice their future for two big names who haven't gotten out of the second round, who will leave at the end of the year.
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May 5 at 8:53 p.m.
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I think the jets would have to do this, but we would need a commitment from Marner that he would resign
 
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