You just can't make one of these that aren't terrible eh? Just making the team way older and so so so much worse.

Leafs get the better coach and a true PP QB. What's bad about that?

Pittsburgh had the worst PP in the league this season.

You can't trade coaches anymore. That was added to the CBA a while ago. As they don't have any affect on the salary cap they hold no trade. However most coaching contracts have alternative income clauses in them where if they are fired and get a new job elsewhere the team does not have to pay them for the amount of money they make with the new job

Karlsson is old, his best days are behind him. He's half the player Marner is. I know you are seeing red and logic is gone but take a deep breath an think about it.

Who has scored under Keefe in the playoffs? No one. Apart from 1 round. His system does not work in the playoffs. Hyman under Keefe, doesn't score. Bertuzzi? Nothing. Domi? Same thing. No one does anything with Keefe as the coach. Fire him and then see what happens. Because losing a Marner trade (by a truly dreadful margin in this case) for the sake of making a change to appease fans who can't regulate their emotions....well that's just pure stupidity.

Fire Keefe, I would also like to see Shanahan and Treliving fired. Fire the whole front office and coaching staff

That one is tough to explain. Karlsson has a lethal shot and great vision. And the Leafs need a right handed point shot. Apart from Montour who is UFA, there aren't that many available. Karlsson could potentially be one of them. Him, Matthews and Nylander would give the PP three legitimate shooting threats.

I think if Sullivan wasn't going to be the Pens' coach next year, he'd have gone out with Rierden when he was fired.
And the Pens aren't interested in an EK/Mitch swap. We don't have the RHD depth to move on from him, and contrary to what you're being told Karlsson isn't someone the Pens can easily replace. They aren't moving on from EK after one year just because Rierdan can't coach a PP if his life depended on it.

We obviously agree on the coach. Every Leafs fan is done with this guy. But we have to be honest and admit the PP underperforming is also a personnel issue. Marner and Rielly were awful. If the Leafs had a 15% PP they would've beaten Boston easily. Getting a new coach is mandatory but so is getting a PP QB.

You can't say it's a personnel problem when they have usually operated near the top of the league. Until it's playoff time and they refuse to adjust anything. It's the coaching staff

Yea, the coach should have removed Rielly and Marner from PP1. He didn't asjust.

Hopefully Keefe, Marner and Rielly are done as Leafs. We have to wait one more year for JT to go.

Crosby, Rust, Guentzel, Karlsson, Letang were all elite even strength producers. Sullivan should have been fired months ago for that alone.

I think he should have changed how they entered the zone, changed faceoff formations. Sure try other guys but Keefe did nothing. Ever. He never does.

I imagine JT is staying for the rest of his career. And honestly no one will have a problem with him so long as they don't overpay him. 5 or less depending on term. (Longer the term the lower the cap. I'd be thrilled if he signed a 7 year deal with a cap hit of 2.5 million. All front loaded. He'd retire before it's over anyways.

Rielly is great, get control of your emotions. He didn't have a good series especially on the power play but no one did. Fire Keefe.

Marner could be traded but I wouldn't unless it's something I feel is fair value. What you have proposed is crap value. You're mad at him and so you irrationally lower his value to appease your feelings. Just let it go. He's a 100 point Selke finalist. He's an elite player.

Get a coach in here who has proven he can get a team to score in the playoffs and then see how it goes. This is a good team, being out coached all the time needs to stop.

Rielly has been far from great. Him and Lyubushkin produced the same amount of points in the series. Stop making excuses for mediocre players.

And Marner is not a Selke level player. The last play of the season proved it. He's an 8 million dollar per year player who conned the Leafs brass into taking 3 million more. Good on him for hustling the Leafs. I don't have any hate for the guy. He has accomplished a lot in his career. But he's not worthy of an extension. Trading him for peanuts is the best solution at this point.