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Seth to Utah

Created by: boilermaker
Team: 2024-25 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: May 12, 2024
Published: May 12, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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The new Utah ownership likely wants to make some big moves this summer via trades and free agency. They are not the Arizona Coyotes any more and will take some steps to become a playoff contender. One of those moves is to acquire Seth Jones for their 1st round 2024 pick. Seth agrees to waive his NMC since he's tired of losing and figures Utah is further along their rebuild than Chicago. Chicago can retain 2M of Jones AAV.

Hawks select Levshunov with the 2nd overall and he becomes their projected #1 RD in a couple of years. With the Utah pick, 6th overall, The Hawks select a forward. Maybe Lindstom if still on the board, or Catton, or even Eiserman.

Meanwhile the Hawks sign a couple of defensemen in Roy and Chatfield to play the right side as placeholders until Levshunov and Rinzel are ready. Monahan and Sprong also signed to bolster the forward group.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
2$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
4$4,500,000
3$3,500,000
3$4,000,000
Trades
CHI
  1. 2024 1st round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Jones, Seth ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (CHI)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$83,500,000$68,376,667$0$6,675,000$15,123,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
C
RFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$900,000$900K)
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$912,500$912,500 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW
RFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
RFA
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$900,000$900,000
LW, C
RFA
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
RFA
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD
UFA - 6
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
G
UFA - 2
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
LD
RFA - 2
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$962,500$962,500
G
RFA - 1
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
RFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
RFA

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May 12 at 10:50 a.m.
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Woah, no retention. Way to long to retain.
May 12 at 11:01 a.m.
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Not for this tho
May 12 at 11:02 a.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
Woah, no retention. Way to long to retain.


By the time the 6th overall needs to be paid , it’ll be 4 years. Even then a bridge is possible and then Jones expires.
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May 12 at 11:07 a.m.
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I'm not crazy about trading Seth. He's played better than people are giving him credit for. Is he overpaid? Yes but only by maybe $1MM. Not a problem cap wise for the Hawks. As far as the trade goes, I'm okay with it although given the depth of defensemen and lack of depth at forward in this draft, I might be tempted to take Demidov at #2 and then a defenseman like Silayev, Buium or Dickinson at #6. I'm thinking though that the more likely scenario is that Seth stays ad Utah signs Roy and Chatfield and then drafts a defenseman.
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May 12 at 11:09 a.m.
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Edited May 12 at 11:47 a.m.
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By the time the 6th overall needs to be paid , it’ll be 4 years. Even then a bridge is possible and then Jones expires.


I just want to keep Jones. I think he's one of the most underrated players in the NHL considering all the Leafs fans saying hes worth $5M...crazy! Yes our team isn't good right now. He's still 25atoi playing against the opponents top pair and was with essentially a rookie the entire year last year. Yes Vlasic is good, but rookies are still rookies.
May 12 at 11:44 a.m.
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Quoting: CoachQ
I'm not crazy about trading Seth. He's played better than people are giving him credit for. Is he overpaid? Yes but only by maybe $1MM. Not a problem cap wise for the Hawks. As far as the trade goes, I'm okay with it although given the depth of defensemen and lack of depth at forward in this draft, I might be tempted to take Demidov at #2 and then a defenseman like Silayev, Buium or Dickinson at #6. I'm thinking though that the more likely scenario is that Seth stays ad Utah signs Roy and Chatfield and then drafts a defenseman.


My thoughts exactly.
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May 12 at 11:46 a.m.
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I agree Seth is a capable player, though overpaid by a couple of million. And playing 25 minutes is important as the younger defenders learn their way. I'm just looking forward 2 or 3 years and would want Levshunov and a good forward prospect on the cusp of making the team at that time instead of a possibly declining Jones. I have a feeling Seth's contract isn't going to age very well. He probably has 3-4 years left of good play, then the wear and tear of playing all those minutes will come into play. He'll be a boat anchor for the last 2 years, so trade him now while he has value (ripe opportunity if you ask me with Utah) and obtain a future asset that will be coming into his own when the team becomes competitive.
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May 12 at 11:47 a.m.
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What an awful trade for Utah.
May 12 at 11:50 a.m.
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Quoting: boilermaker
I agree Seth is a capable player, though overpaid by a couple of million. And playing 25 minutes is important as the younger defenders learn their way. I'm just looking forward 2 or 3 years and would want Levshunov and a good forward prospect on the cusp of making the team at that time instead of a possibly declining Jones. I have a feeling Seth's contract isn't going to age very well. He probably has 3-4 years left of good play, then the wear and tear of playing all those minutes will come into play. He'll be a boat anchor for the last 2 years, so trade him now while he has value (ripe opportunity if you ask me with Utah) and obtain a future asset that will be coming into his own when the team becomes competitive.


But even if it is 3-4 years. He's still going to be capable of 2nd pair responsibilities and we're still going to have plenty of cap space with all the prospects coming up. I much rather have proper prospect development with veterans on the team than trade away all the veterans.
May 12 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: boilermaker
I agree Seth is a capable player, though overpaid by a couple of million. And playing 25 minutes is important as the younger defenders learn their way. I'm just looking forward 2 or 3 years and would want Levshunov and a good forward prospect on the cusp of making the team at that time instead of a possibly declining Jones. I have a feeling Seth's contract isn't going to age very well. He probably has 3-4 years left of good play, then the wear and tear of playing all those minutes will come into play. He'll be a boat anchor for the last 2 years, so trade him now while he has value (ripe opportunity if you ask me with Utah) and obtain a future asset that will be coming into his own when the team becomes competitive.


I really like this idea. Yes, Seth is a solid #1 for the Hawks these days; playing an important role for ~25 minutes a game that no one else on the Hawks can. I'd look to overpay DeMelo for four years, as an interim fix while Levshunov, Rinzel, and others ripen. He's not Seth Jones, but he'd do, IMO.

Grabbing the #6 OA would be a huge win, in addition to our #2 OA... Those two picks could greatly impact the Hawks' future, while enabling Utah to announce to the hockey world - and their fans - that their franchise is new and aggressive. That, plus Utah is further along in their rebuild, so Seth may waive to go there.

Excellent job, Boiler. I hope the Hawks find a way to make it happen. Cheers
May 12 at 12:24 p.m.
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Quoting: CoachQ
I'm not crazy about trading Seth. He's played better than people are giving him credit for. Is he overpaid? Yes but only by maybe $1MM. Not a problem cap wise for the Hawks. As far as the trade goes, I'm okay with it although given the depth of defensemen and lack of depth at forward in this draft, I might be tempted to take Demidov at #2 and then a defenseman like Silayev, Buium or Dickinson at #6. I'm thinking though that the more likely scenario is that Seth stays ad Utah signs Roy and Chatfield and then drafts a defenseman.


If I was CHI I would take Levshunov and Silayev if possible. They get their future RD, and a rare specimen in Silayev. They'll likely be very bad for another year, at the very least, and will be able to pick up a comparable forward to Demidov or (any other forward prospect that they may want). They should have no problem attracting top-talent via free agency in the future if a 1st line winger becomes available. Eiserman would be a good pick if they didn't already have Bedard who is an amazing goal scorer and Nazar who might be a goal scorer as well.

If Anaheim, CLB, or MTL take Silayev, I don't think they should trade Jones for the 6OV unless they can turn that into a young somewhat established forward like Zegras or someone like Marner, but I would assume they could trade Jones+ for Marner straight.
May 12 at 12:35 p.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
But even if it is 3-4 years. He's still going to be capable of 2nd pair responsibilities and we're still going to have plenty of cap space with all the prospects coming up. I much rather have proper prospect development with veterans on the team than trade away all the veterans.


Levshunov and Rinzel could be holding down the top 2 RD pairings by that time. I'll worry about the 3rd pair RD down the road. Also in my scenario, they are signing 4 veterans, 2F and 2D, for the next 3 years to help bring the prospects along.
May 12 at 12:39 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
What an awful trade for Utah.


Depends on what Utah thinks. And they can use a few defensemen on their roster for next year and going forward. They could also market Jones to the new fan base. I think Jones is reasonably paid for what he is at 7.5M. Hence my idea of the 2M retention.
May 12 at 12:40 p.m.
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If I was CHI I would take Levshunov and Silayev if possible. They get their future RD, and a rare specimen in Silayev. They'll likely be very bad for another year, at the very least, and will be able to pick up a comparable forward to Demidov or (any other forward prospect that they may want). They should have no problem attracting top-talent via free agency in the future if a 1st line winger becomes available. Eiserman would be a good pick if they didn't already have Bedard who is an amazing goal scorer and Nazar who might be a goal scorer as well.

If Anaheim, CLB, or MTL take Silayev, I don't think they should trade Jones for the 6OV unless they can turn that into a young somewhat established forward like Zegras or someone like Marner, but I would assume they could trade Jones+ for Marner straight.


I don't think Jones will waive for Toronto and vice versa as far as Marner is concerned.
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May 12 at 12:52 p.m.
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Depends on what Utah thinks. And they can use a few defensemen on their roster for next year and going forward. They could also market Jones to the new fan base. I think Jones is reasonably paid for what he is at 7.5M. Hence my idea of the 2M retention.


I would just way rather a 6th overall pick and even with the retention don't think Jones is worth that early of a pick, if Chicago had a middish 1st they were sending with Jones then maybe it's worth considering but imo this here isn't worth it for Utah.
 
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