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Which Teams Have NO Shot at the Playoffs?

Jul. 27, 2017 at 12:10 a.m.
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CF% rel is the best, proven indicator to how much shot attempts you generate 5v5, how do they lie?


i thought it was about % of time your team has the puck?


CORSI has nothing to do with time with puck, so unless you have no clue what CORSI is, I'm confused.
Jul. 27, 2017 at 12:10 a.m.
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i thought it was about % of time your team has the puck?


CORSI has nothing to do with time with puck, so unless you have no clue what CORSI is, I'm confused.


then i guess i have no idea what it is, lol.
Jul. 27, 2017 at 12:11 a.m.
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CF% rel is your shot attempts for 5v5 - your shot attempts against 5v5
Jul. 27, 2017 at 12:14 a.m.
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then i guess i have no idea what it is, lol.


To clarify: Corsi For % (or CF%) is the proportion of shots that a team takes, compared to all the shots taken in the games against them. This breaks down into: (Shots For)/(Shots For + Shots Against) = CF%.

This doesn't necessarily mean a team has more possession, or is expected to score more goals; at the moment, there isn't a publicly available way to perfectly measure possession, and high quality scoring chances make a big difference on a team's ability to actually score on their shots. That being said, shooting more than your opponent generally means you have the puck more than your opponent, and no team to date has been able to coach shot quality. So Corsi For % is a good APPROXIMATION for possession, but not perfect.
Jul. 27, 2017 at 12:15 a.m.
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CF% rel is your shot attempts for 5v5 - your shot attempts against 5v5


yeah, maybe i was wrong.
Jul. 27, 2017 at 12:15 a.m.
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CF% rel is your shot attempts for 5v5 - your shot attempts against 5v5


yeah, maybe i was wrong.


I just told you what it was....
Jul. 27, 2017 at 12:16 a.m.
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yeah, maybe i was wrong.


I just told you what it was....


yeah, that's not what i thought it was.
Jul. 27, 2017 at 12:17 a.m.
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I just told you what it was....


yeah, that's not what i thought it was.


so you were wrong, not maybe wrong
Jul. 27, 2017 at 12:18 a.m.
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yeah, that's not what i thought it was.


so you were wrong, not maybe wrong


fair enough. well, i was wrong then.
Jul. 27, 2017 at 12:18 a.m.
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so you were wrong, not maybe wrong


fair enough. well, i was wrong then.


you know what i meant though.
Jul. 27, 2017 at 12:19 a.m.
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so all that time we discussed Giradri and Hamonic, you had no idea what we were saying with CF%rel and such >
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Jul. 27, 2017 at 1:01 a.m.
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so all that time we discussed Giradri and Hamonic, you had no idea what we were saying with CF%rel and such >


i guess so
Jul. 27, 2017 at 2:18 a.m.
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Even Detroit has a TINY chance at making the playoffs ... but the teams who i could pretty much say 'won't' make it are Colorado, Vancouver, Jersey and Vegas ... Philly might go in there too.


When this is the first post you know **** is gonna hit the fan
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Jul. 27, 2017 at 7:55 a.m.
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i thought it was about % of time your team has the puck?


CORSI has nothing to do with time with puck, so unless you have no clue what CORSI is, I'm confused.


While there is no true way to measure possession, CORSI can be considered somewhat of a gauge considering you have to possess the puck to shoot it.
Jul. 27, 2017 at 9:34 a.m.
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As a Canucks fan, I am pleased to report that we will do even worse than Colorado. Woo hoo, Dahlin we come for you!


Canucks won't win the draft lottery anyways
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Jul. 27, 2017 at 10:00 a.m.
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Even Detroit has a TINY chance at making the playoffs ... but the teams who i could pretty much say 'won't' make it are Colorado, Vancouver, Jersey and Vegas ... Philly might go in there too.


When this is the first post you know **** is gonna hit the fan


Jabroni coming out swinging hard
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Jul. 27, 2017 at 10:10 a.m.
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When this is the first post you know **** is gonna hit the fan


Jabroni coming out swinging hard


I prefer to say fit hits the shan
Jul. 27, 2017 at 11:04 a.m.
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As a Canucks fan, I am pleased to report that we will do even worse than Colorado. Woo hoo, Dahlin we come for you!


Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then!!! Good one!!
Jul. 27, 2017 at 11:50 a.m.
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As a Canucks fan, I am pleased to report that we will do even worse than Colorado. Woo hoo, Dahlin we come for you!


Canucks won't win the draft lottery anyways


lol, right?
Jul. 27, 2017 at 11:50 a.m.
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As a Canucks fan, I am pleased to report that we will do even worse than Colorado. Woo hoo, Dahlin we come for you!


Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then!!! Good one!!


They'll end up losing the lottery or they will select someone other than Shevenikov or Dahlin
Jul. 27, 2017 at 11:51 a.m.
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There are a ton of teams on the bubble of making the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Most of the teams on the outside of the playoff picture last year improved, and a lot of the teams that were in the playoffs got worse, but not enough to the point where they'd be locks to miss the playoffs. So which teams have no shot at making the playoffs? I see there being 5 teams -- New Jersey, Vegas, Colorado, Detroit, and Vancouver. Other than that, I don't think it's completely unrealistic to suggest other teams making the playoffs. Teams like Arizona, LA, and Philly were close to being included here but I feel that they have a shot as well.

Who do you think is a virtual lock to miss the playoffs?


So this guy's allowed to say that Philly might go in there but i'm not? not trying to be mean but i don't get it. I think we're both allowed to say that.
Jul. 27, 2017 at 11:51 a.m.
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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then!!! Good one!!


They'll end up losing the lottery or they will select someone other than Shevenikov or Dahlin

wouldn't they pick Dahlin over anyone else?
Jul. 27, 2017 at 11:54 a.m.
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There are a ton of teams on the bubble of making the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Most of the teams on the outside of the playoff picture last year improved, and a lot of the teams that were in the playoffs got worse, but not enough to the point where they'd be locks to miss the playoffs. So which teams have no shot at making the playoffs? I see there being 5 teams -- New Jersey, Vegas, Colorado, Detroit, and Vancouver. Other than that, I don't think it's completely unrealistic to suggest other teams making the playoffs. Teams like Arizona, LA, and Philly were close to being included here but I feel that they have a shot as well.

Who do you think is a virtual lock to miss the playoffs?


So this guy's allowed to say that Philly might go in there but i'm not? not trying to be mean but i don't get it. I think we're both allowed to say that.


He said they were close, but he is on the fence. You simply lumped them in with the bottom-five of the league
Jul. 27, 2017 at 11:56 a.m.
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So this guy's allowed to say that Philly might go in there but i'm not? not trying to be mean but i don't get it. I think we're both allowed to say that.


He said they were close, but he is on the fence. You simply lumped them in with the bottom-five of the league


i said they might go in there. but i guess they have a chance ...
Jul. 27, 2017 at 11:58 a.m.
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He said they were close, but he is on the fence. You simply lumped them in with the bottom-five of the league


i said they might go in there. but i guess they have a chance ...


I explained to you how they got better. That Schenn Trade might be the best one of Hextall's tenure (Coburn trade to TBL for Gudas 1st (traded up for TK) and a 3rd)
 
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