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Created by: Marcsnack
Team: 2024-25 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: May 16, 2024
Published: May 16, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,100,000
2$775,000
1$800,000
1$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$5,500,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Ludvig, John
  2. Smith, Reilly ($2,500,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,675,000$83,261,009$0$77,500$4,413,991
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
RFA
$5,500,000$5,500,000
C, LW
UFA
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$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C
RFA - 1
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$2,450,000$2,450,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,375,000$5,375,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$886,667$886,667 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD
RFA
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
RFA

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May 16 at 11:08 p.m.
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not a bad offer at all, id just like to see what they do in free agency before trading robertson
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May 16 at 11:48 p.m.
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if you remove the retention on Smith and we can't find another trade partner maybe.
May 16 at 11:55 p.m.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
if you remove the retention on Smith and we can't find another trade partner maybe.


I feel like Dubas likes both guys and it allows us to get much younger.
May 17 at 12:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Marcsnack
I feel like Dubas likes both guys and it allows us to get much younger.


just because a GM drafts a guy or signs a guy doesn't mean he "likes" them.

That's especially true when it comes to drafting, you take people in your room into account.
Fact is I think Dubas is learning as a GM. I think he knows the mistakes he's made, and guys like Robertson are part of that.

There is a difference between getting younger and getting better. Neither of these guys make the team better. Hell Timmins is scratched. He'd probably be demoted to the AHL next year so if he wants him he'd be on waivers.
Not that I think he would take him off waivers either as he's not really what this team needs.

Truth is Smith is the best piece here. It's not worth moving him out to recoup 2.5 mil.
May 17 at 5:36 p.m.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
just because a GM drafts a guy or signs a guy doesn't mean he "likes" them.

That's especially true when it comes to drafting, you take people in your room into account.
Fact is I think Dubas is learning as a GM. I think he knows the mistakes he's made, and guys like Robertson are part of that.

There is a difference between getting younger and getting better. Neither of these guys make the team better. Hell Timmins is scratched. He'd probably be demoted to the AHL next year so if he wants him he'd be on waivers.
Not that I think he would take him off waivers either as he's not really what this team needs.

Truth is Smith is the best piece here. It's not worth moving him out to recoup 2.5 mil.


So what is your POV on Smith? You rather keep him? If we are gonna trade him for a pick, I rather just get a young NHL ready player like Robertson and take a risk.
May 17 at 5:50 p.m.
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So what is your POV on Smith? You rather keep him? If we are gonna trade him for a pick, I rather just get a young NHL ready player like Robertson and take a risk.


except Robertson isn't an NHL level player. He's an AHL guy who's too small to play the bottom 6 and not really good enough to pllay top 6. Even if you think he'd be an OK regular season piece he's not the type of guy you want during the playoffs. So what are you actually building there?

Smith, if we have to retain what's the point?
I'd rather move him for a pick, no retention and be done with it.
What I don't want, is to take back bad cap in moving him, like the Joseph trades to OTT, where we extend the cap out for 2 years. God no, just let it end and be done with it.
Nor do I really want to move him for some garbage player who really isn't NHL level with us retaining.
You would only save like 1.5 mil in cap there. Because you retain half and then pay Robertson another roughly mil.
But push come to shove if this was a team to make the playoffs, 1.5 mil in cap isn't worth starting Robertson over Smith in games that count.
At least Smith would be engaged, final year of a contract, playoffs, looking to cash in..... You'd get far more out of him.

Where Robertson will just get shoved around and disappear much like he does in TOR. Who needs that? And for what 1.5 mil in cap savings.... not worth it.

Truth is I'm content in understanding no one is going to give us a good young player for Smith. I get that.
But a pick isn't out of the realm of possibilities. If we open up the cap space in moving him great.

Best part of Smith's deal is it's done after this year. So why sweat it so much.
If you want to figure out the guy to move.... it's Rakell.
Because that contract as it stands right now is looking really bad. Best they can hope for is either he breaks out of it, they put him on Crosby's line and hope he can carry him to a decent trade, or it's going to be a bad cap swap with another team.
But Smith really isn't all that much to worry on. It's one and done, and we should just accept that rather than making the team worse. If anything when they are out next season maybe he becomes a TDL piece on an expiring contract.
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