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Team: 2024-25 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: May 21, 2024
Published: May 21, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,750,000
1$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,250,000
4$1,750,000
2$900,000
2$2,000,000
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. Murphy, Connor ($2,200,000 retained)
Additional Details:
The McCabe trade.

Rights to Colin Blackwell as well
CHI
  1. Gunler, Noel
  2. Pelevin, Alexander [Reserve List]
  3. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
  4. 2025 2nd round pick (CAR)
2.
3.
CAR
  1. Korpisalo, Joonas ($750,000 retained)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (OTT)
  3. 2026 5th round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
the murray trade
OTT
4.
CAR
  1. Kemell, Joakim
  2. 2024 1st round pick (NSH)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (WPG)
Additional Details:
close to the LAK Fiala trade. Faber was sligthy higher ranked than Kemell and Nash pick is lower than LA's. So late 2nd to make it up
NSH
  1. Necas, Martin [RFA Rights]
5.
CAR
  1. Smith, Reilly ($1,500,000 retained)
PIT
  1. Drury, Jack [RFA Rights]
6.
CAR
  1. Armia, Joel ($1,700,000 retained)
MTL
  1. Sellgren, Jesper [Reserve List]
  2. Suzuki, Ryan [RFA Rights]
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,700,000$87,475,000$0$0$225,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
LW, RW
UFA
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$9,750,000$9,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
RW
RFA
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA
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$4,820,000$4,820,000
C
UFA - 6
$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$3,250,000$3,250,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RD
RFA

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May 21 at 10:33 a.m.
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I'd do it with no retention and add like a 4th.
May 21 at 10:34 a.m.
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Chicago accepts
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May 21 at 10:34 a.m.
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Quoting: whitecocoa48
I'd do it with no retention and add like a 4th.


we wouldnt have space, unfortunately
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May 21 at 10:35 a.m.
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I don't see why Nashville would do that.

Why are you downgrading significantly in goal?
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May 21 at 10:35 a.m.
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Only 750K retention and 2 mid round picks to dump Korpi, I have to imagine the Sens would do that.
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May 21 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I don't see why Nashville would do that.

Why are you downgrading significantly in goal?


we arent downgrading significantly. His HD save percentage is actually good. And his GSAx/60 actually isnt bad either. he accumulated a high GSAx because he made 55 starts and played behind Smith's bad system. While im not saying Korp is a 1A, we dont need him to be with Kooch in net. 3.25 mil is fine for a decent 1B. I would expect Korp's below average MD save percentage will not be as much of an impact in our low chances allowed system.
May 21 at 10:42 a.m.
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Quoting: StutzlesNumber1Fan
Only 750K retention and 2 mid round picks to dump Korpi, I have to imagine the Sens would do that.


it could be slightly better but i was using the Murray trade as a template. less per year retention but longer retention for similar picks.
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May 21 at 10:43 a.m.
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Nashville would easily pass, not getting Kemell. Maybe the 1st & second but that would be a waste for Nashville since wingers aren't a need. So in fact no, full pass thanks though.
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May 21 at 10:44 a.m.
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Habs take that deal for Armia
May 21 at 10:44 a.m.
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Pass on Korpi , Canes can sign someone better for cheaper probably. Pass on Armia too, if we move Necas we should actually get a worthy replacement for him, not a 4th liner. Buyout KK and you have room to preferably get a right handed 2C. Necas trade is probably about right. Think Fiala is the right comparison for him. Early to mid 20s pick and a decent prospect.
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May 21 at 10:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Nashville would easily pass, not getting Kemell. Maybe the 1st & second but that would be a waste for Nashville since wingers aren't a need. So in fact no, full pass thanks though.


necas has more value than a lower 1st and a 2nd.
May 21 at 10:46 a.m.
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Although the trade is fair, Ottawa is more likely than not to run it back with the Korpisalo / Forsberg tandem.
May 21 at 10:46 a.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
necas has more value than a lower 1st and a 2nd.


To someone who needs a winger.
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May 21 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: fullblowncaniac90
Pass on Korpi , Canes can sign someone better for cheaper probably. Pass on Armia too, if we move Necas we should actually get a worthy replacement for him, not a 4th liner. Buyout KK and you have room to preferably get a right handed 2C. Necas trade is probably about right. Think Fiala is the right comparison for him. Early to mid 20s pick and a decent prospect.


there is not right handed 2c available that will be worth the money. kemell has a much higher ceiling that a 4th liner, goodness.

with armia we are going to need a big body goal scorer next year
May 21 at 10:48 a.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
there is not right handed 2c available that will be worth the money. kemell has a much higher ceiling that a 4th liner, goodness.


I was meaning Armia. Kemell is pretty good, would be alright with something like that coming back tbh.
May 21 at 10:50 a.m.
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Quoting: PaulKorea
Chicago accepts


I'm not so sure. The 1st is pick #27 in this draft. That pick gets a player w/ 2nd round talent at best in this draft class. So it's basically two 2nd's for Murphy half retained. Neither of those prospects add much value either. And it means the Hawks then have two holes to fill on the right side of their D. If it's not a 1st in '25 or '26, I think the Hawks pass.
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May 21 at 10:53 a.m.
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I'm not so sure. The 1st is pick #27 in this draft. That pick gets a player w/ 2nd round talent at best in this draft class. So it's basically two 2nd's for Murphy half retained. Neither of those prospects add much value either. And it means the Hawks then have two holes to fill on the right side of their D. If it's not a 1st in '25 or '26, I think the Hawks pass.


it is the same trade as the mccabe trade. we can flip the picks and make the 25 1st rounder a top 10 protected. But much like the 1st from Toronto, it is going to be a late pick
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May 21 at 11:01 a.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
it is the same trade as the mccabe trade. we can flip the picks and make the 25 1st rounder a top 10 protected. But much like the 1st from Toronto, it is going to be a late pick


I just had a thought... I personally don't have much interest in Necas, but if CHI brass does, maybe something can be worked out around Necas for Murphy 50% retained. Of course pieces would have to be added. But the difference in value between the two proposals isn't too far off.
May 21 at 11:02 a.m.
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Edited May 21 at 11:15 a.m.
Quoting: ecupirate07
it is the same trade as the mccabe trade. we can flip the picks and make the 25 1st rounder a top 10 protected. But much like the 1st from Toronto, it is going to be a late pick


I'm guessing the Hawks would much rather have a late 1st in the '25 draft than in this draft. Hawks were willing to trade McCabe because they were LOADED with young LD prospects who were going to need NHL ice time. It's the exact opposite on their right side. They have one RD in the AHL (Crevier) who is a future 3rd pair guy at best and one unsigned RD prospect (Rinzell) who is still 2 or 3 years away from being NHL ready. And Hawks GM Kyle from Chicago stated the Hawks teardown is over. He wants continuity for the roster going forward. I honestly don't think the Hawks even consider trading Murphy before the TDL unless they get blown away by an offer for him.
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May 21 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
I'm not so sure. The 1st is pick #27 in this draft. That pick gets a player w/ 2nd round talent at best in this draft class. So it's basically two 2nd's for Murphy half retained. Neither of those prospects add much value either. And it means the Hawks then have two holes to fill on the right side of their D. If it's not a 1st in '25 or '26, I think the Hawks pass.


If the Hawks are shipping Murphy to a contender, he isn't bringing back a high 1st rounder, so to me the CAR pick checks out. True that it leaves a hole at RD, but with Murphy missing 25+ games two out of the last 3 seasons, there's been a hole there for large periods of time anyway. There's UFAs on the market that can fill that role short term.

You're right that they likely don't trade him until the TDL, but I feel you're overestimating his value at this point in his career. Late 1st + 2nd feels fair to me. Plus the Hawks can use CAR's 1st and TB's 1st and bundle them if they want to either move up in the draft or bring in a long term piece.
May 21 at 11:54 a.m.
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I think if you're using the Fiala trade as an expectation for a Necas return, you have to factor in that Fiala was coming off a 33 goal, 85 point season at that time - heights that Necas hasn't hit yet. I think the ask is a bit much, but NSH probably isn't the right team to be buying high on a winger right now. They have wing prospects to spare - what they need is a center.
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May 21 at 11:57 a.m.
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Sens accept
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May 21 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
I'm guessing the Hawks would much rather have a late 1st in the '25 draft than in this draft. Hawks were willing to trade McCabe because they were LOADED with young LD prospects who were going to need NHL ice time. It's the exact opposite on their right side. They have one RD in the AHL (Crevier) who is a future 3rd pair guy at best and one unsigned RD prospect (Rinzell) who is still 2 or 3 years away from being NHL ready. And Hawks GM Kyle from Chicago stated the Hawks teardown is over. He wants continuity for the roster going forward. I honestly don't think the Hawks even consider trading Murphy before the TDL unless they get blown away by an offer for him.


I get what you’re saying.

How about slightly modified trade of

Drury goes to Buffalo for Joker.

Joker, 25th first protected and Gunler for Murphy at 50%? Get a wild card prospect, a RD to play with some growing room and a 1st
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May 21 at 12:46 p.m.
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Quoting: PaulKorea
If the Hawks are shipping Murphy to a contender, he isn't bringing back a high 1st rounder, so to me the CAR pick checks out. True that it leaves a hole at RD, but with Murphy missing 25+ games two out of the last 3 seasons, there's been a hole there for large periods of time anyway. There's UFAs on the market that can fill that role short term.

You're right that they likely don't trade him until the TDL, but I feel you're overestimating his value at this point in his career. Late 1st + 2nd feels fair to me. Plus the Hawks can use CAR's 1st and TB's 1st and bundle them if they want to either move up in the draft or bring in a long term piece.


You totally missed my point. A late 1st in this year's draft doesn't even have 1st round value. This is a really weak class after the top 11 players. The guys drafted late in the 1st round in this draft would probably be mid 2nd round picks at best in a good draft class (like the '23 class was). I know any 1st the Hawks get for Murphy will likely be a late 1st. But I'd want that late 1st in a deeper draft. Like the '25 draft class is projected to be as of now. A 1st and a 2nd is probably a fair return for Murphy w/ 2 years of retention, but I honestly don't think Kyle takes it. Not after his end of season comments to the media about the importance of roster continuity going forward.
May 21 at 12:56 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
I get what you’re saying.

How about slightly modified trade of

Drury goes to Buffalo for Joker.

Joker, 25th first protected and Gunler for Murphy at 50%? Get a wild card prospect, a RD to play with some growing room and a 1st


That's really no better. Joker was originally drafted by the Hawks. He's a 3rd pair guy on his best day and doesn't fit the mold of what the Hawks want long term on their blue line. If the Hawks are willing to trade Murphy (which is not a given), the '25 1st and a 2nd in '25 or '26 plus Gunler probably is fair. Whether the Hawks take that offer is a whole other question.
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