SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Think About It Don

Created by: Whalers12
Team: 2024-25 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: May 19, 2024
Published: May 21, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
KK: Hasn't done well since signing his current contract. With him being young and moving to a young team, he can find his grove again with a better playing opportunity. Can also open up cap space for Carolina to get the right handed 2C they want. Worst comes to worst, the cap space is there to buy him out.

Andersen: Kochetkov has taken the right steps to be given the opportunity as the full-time starter. Andersen struggled when it mattered most with the Canes and with his reasonable contact, he can be traded. He will most definitely help Edmonton.

Necas: Pinto for Necas in my opinion is a good fit for both teams. Added the 3rd round pick to sweeten the deal for Ottawa in case (most likely) they don't want to part ways with Pinto. However, Necas wants to play center in the NHL and this gives him a chance as a top 6 center. Pinto becomes Carolina's 2C and takes a reasonable but fair bridge deal which will set him up for the future in the NHL after his minor hiccup this year with his suspension.

Guentzel: Hoping he takes a friendlier deal than what he can get on the open market. He likes Carolina and the group that is there, plus enjoys playing with Aho. Maybe it'll help keep him in Carolina.

Jarvis: Give Jarvis the 8x8 and lock him up. Will be a fair contract for both team and the player. Just keep both parties happy.

Duclair: Had a good contract year especially for a guy playing on multiple teams. I think a 3x4.5 gives Duclair some stability, but also a fair price for a player who has been on a good number of teams.

Chatfield: One of the most underrated solid Dmen in the NHL. He plays a simple game with minor mistakes. He's been a guy who's always been around league minimum for contracts so give him 3x1.75 to let him continue to grow. Maybe a potential Brett Pesce type of player.

Martinook: Deserves much more for what he brings to this team. Leader both on and off the ice and a great person for the community. Brind'Amour talks about the culture of a family in Raleigh and Martinook is that culture to a T. Team friendly deal which still gives Martinook a raise.

Drury: Has improved tremendously in the last two seasons, however struggled in his offensive game. Drury himself said that's his main focus for next season. Give him a 3x1.5 so he can prove his offensive game in the NHL can improve. If it does, pay him what he deserves in the later years.

FUS: FUS almost played himself onto the Canes this past season during Training Camp. Put him on a line with Staal so he can learn how to play in the Dzone in the NHL and get him comfortable. Rookie deal helps with the salary cap.

Nikishin: 2x950k is the deal he would get based on the reserve list. Who knows if he's coming over this year or the following. Either way, Waddell is signing him this summer. If he comes this upcoming season, he will be a force. If he doesn't come this season either sign a veteran around league minimum or use Ty Smith or Dylan Coghlan.

Morrow: Got a 1 game taste of the NHL before the playoffs. Canes were happy with his first game. With the number of defensemen as UFA's for the Canes this summer, this is almost inevitable.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,500,000
2$825,000
1$850,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
1$825,000
1$800,000
4$4,500,000
8$8,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$9,500,000
3$4,500,000
3$2,400,000
2$1,750,000
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. 2026 3rd round pick (EDM)
2.
CAR
  1. Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
OTT
  1. Necas, Martin [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (CAR)
3.
CAR
  1. 2024 4th round pick (UTA)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the UTA
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the CAR
2025
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the CAR
2026
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the CAR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,700,000$85,103,334$0$350,000$2,596,666

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$9,500,000$9,500,000
LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$9,750,000$9,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RW
RFA
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
RFA
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$7,750,000$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
RFA
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$831,667$831,667
RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,400,000$2,400,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$7,750,000$7,750,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$1,750,000$1,750,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$775,000$775,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$950,000$950,000
LD
RFA
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$825,000$825,000
LW
RFA

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
May 21 at 2:57 p.m.
#1
Au-revoir Dorion
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,896
Likes: 3,220
sens would pass imo
StutzlesNumber1Fan liked this.
May 21 at 2:58 p.m.
#2
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 20,871
Likes: 5,220
Carolina should not be adding to Necas for Pinto. Necas is the more valuable player, and by quite a large margin. No reason to move Freddie. That's a slight overpay on both Jarvis and Guentzel. It makes way more sense to bridge Jarvis for 5, and not overpay Duclair to bring someone like Teravainen back. Bad overpayment on Martinook. FUS probably doesn't make the roster over Nadeau. Chatfield isn't coming back, he SUCKED. Would make more sense to keep DeAngelo who was way better in the playoffs
May 21 at 2:58 p.m.
#3
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 20,871
Likes: 5,220
Quoting: Borocop
sens would pass imo


This would get their new GM fired. Necas >>>> Pinto, they take this and run. Stop it now
May 21 at 3:00 p.m.
#4
Au-revoir Dorion
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,896
Likes: 3,220
Quoting: Caniac2000
This would get their new GM fired. Necas >>>> Pinto, they take this and run. Stop it now


Hes just not a fit over pinto for us. We need the 2 way C more than a scoring winger
May 21 at 3:01 p.m.
#5
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 17,321
Likes: 12,362
The way Staios speaks of Pinto, there's no chance he's moved
StutzlesNumber1Fan and athrin liked this.
May 21 at 3:10 p.m.
#6
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2020
Posts: 6,456
Likes: 2,587
Quoting: Caniac2000
Carolina should not be adding to Necas for Pinto. Necas is the more valuable player, and by quite a large margin. No reason to move Freddie. That's a slight overpay on both Jarvis and Guentzel. It makes way more sense to bridge Jarvis for 5, and not overpay Duclair to bring someone like Teravainen back. Bad overpayment on Martinook. FUS probably doesn't make the roster over Nadeau. Chatfield isn't coming back, he SUCKED. Would make more sense to keep DeAngelo who was way better in the playoffs


Freddie allowed a lot of soft/ inopportune goals. I’ve always liked him but I’d have to think he’s the reason for the loss, much like when he was in Toronto and Anaheim.

Also for the OP, KK is a buyout not a dump for assets
May 21 at 3:12 p.m.
#7
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 20,871
Likes: 5,220
Quoting: NYR1983
Freddie allowed a lot of soft/ inopportune goals. I’ve always liked him but I’d have to think he’s the reason for the loss, much like when he was in Toronto and Anaheim.

Also for the OP, KK is a buyout not a dump for assets


No, he wasn't. Freddie had a few softies, but Rod was the reason for the loss. Poor deployment, poor roster management, poor special teams. All coaching issues. Freddie had a 1.9 GSAx this postseason, he was good. That's why I hate people trying to blame him.

KK isn't a dump
May 21 at 3:13 p.m.
#8
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 20,871
Likes: 5,220
Quoting: Borocop
Hes just not a fit over pinto for us. We need the 2 way C more than a scoring winger


That doesn't mean Pinto is more valuable LMFAO. Two way centers are a dime a dozen. You can have Jordan Staal to fill that gap, or even Kotkaniemi.
May 21 at 3:16 p.m.
#9
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2024
Posts: 2,368
Likes: 1,941
I would not trade Pinto 1 for 1 for Necas. Pinto at 5M>Necas at 7.5M. Not to mention Brady and Pinto are a perfect pair. I'd love to trade for Necas but not at the cost of Pinto.
athrin and Who_is_Jimmy_Stu liked this.
May 21 at 3:16 p.m.
#10
Au-revoir Dorion
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,896
Likes: 3,220
Quoting: Caniac2000
That doesn't mean Pinto is more valuable LMFAO. Two way centers are a dime a dozen. You can have Jordan Staal to fill that gap, or even Kotkaniemi.


good 2 way C with upside are not a dime a dozen lol
May 21 at 3:23 p.m.
#11
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2024
Posts: 2,368
Likes: 1,941
Quoting: Borocop
good 2 way C with upside are not a dime a dozen lol


Pinner was on pace for 54 points this season, not even much less than Necas was on pace for.
athrin liked this.
May 21 at 3:25 p.m.
#12
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2020
Posts: 6,456
Likes: 2,587
Quoting: Caniac2000
No, he wasn't. Freddie had a few softies, but Rod was the reason for the loss. Poor deployment, poor roster management, poor special teams. All coaching issues. Freddie had a 1.9 GSAx this postseason, he was good. That's why I hate people trying to blame him.

KK isn't a dump


Quoting: Caniac2000
No, he wasn't. Freddie had a few softies, but Rod was the reason for the loss. Poor deployment, poor roster management, poor special teams. All coaching issues. Freddie had a 1.9 GSAx this postseason, he was good. That's why I hate people trying to blame him.

KK isn't a dump


gSAx is decent while save % sucks. Could make arguments both ways. As for KK, no one is paying for him from what I can see so if he isn’t moving then he’s either on the roster or buyout candidate.
May 21 at 3:26 p.m.
#13
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 20,871
Likes: 5,220
Quoting: Borocop
good 2 way C with upside are not a dime a dozen lol


They really are lol. Jack Drury and Jesperi Kotkaniemi alone fit that idea. If I go around the league, I could probably find 50-60 that are already in the big league, let alone prospects
May 21 at 3:28 p.m.
#14
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 20,871
Likes: 5,220
Quoting: NYR1983
gSAx is decent while save % sucks. Could make arguments both ways. As for KK, no one is paying for him from what I can see so if he isn’t moving then he’s either on the roster or buyout candidate.


Freddie beats Ullmark in both, so it doesn't really matter.

KK's not a cap dump. If you don't want to pay for him, that's cool, but to say he's a dump indicates to me you don't watch him play and you're trying to go off a stats sheet. Kotkaniemi shot unsustainably low after his red hot start to the season, and was still one of the best Canes in xGF. Rod mismanaged him, but he's been really good and remains a strong bounceback and breakthrough candidate moving forward. He's coming off a 40 point seaon that was completely sustainable statistically into a 25 point season with awful PDO, low shooting percentage, and a majorly reduced role because Rod can't manage a roster. He's not a dump. Stop it.
May 21 at 3:32 p.m.
#15
Au-revoir Dorion
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,896
Likes: 3,220
Quoting: Caniac2000
They really are lol. Jack Drury and Jesperi Kotkaniemi alone fit that idea. If I go around the league, I could probably find 50-60 that are already in the big league, let alone prospects


its pretty obvious youve never seen pinto play and thats fine, just know the sens arent trading him for necas
athrin and StutzlesNumber1Fan liked this.
May 21 at 3:34 p.m.
#16
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 20,871
Likes: 5,220
Quoting: Borocop
its pretty obvious youve never seen pinto play and thats fine, just know the sens arent trading him for necas


I've seen Pinto play a lot... if they get offered Pinto for Necas 1 for 1, they JUMP at it. They are better with Necas than Pinto
May 21 at 3:35 p.m.
#17
Au-revoir Dorion
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,896
Likes: 3,220
Quoting: Caniac2000
I've seen Pinto play a lot... if they get offered Pinto for Necas 1 for 1, they JUMP at it. They are better with Necas than Pinto


doubt it but agree to disagree
athrin and StutzlesNumber1Fan liked this.
May 21 at 3:37 p.m.
#18
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2020
Posts: 6,456
Likes: 2,587
Quoting: Caniac2000
Freddie beats Ullmark in both, so it doesn't really matter.

KK's not a cap dump. If you don't want to pay for him, that's cool, but to say he's a dump indicates to me you don't watch him play and you're trying to go off a stats sheet. Kotkaniemi shot unsustainably low after his red hot start to the season, and was still one of the best Canes in xGF. Rod mismanaged him, but he's been really good and remains a strong bounceback and breakthrough candidate moving forward. He's coming off a 40 point seaon that was completely sustainable statistically into a 25 point season with awful PDO, low shooting percentage, and a majorly reduced role because Rod can't manage a roster. He's not a dump. Stop it.


I’m not saying he’s a cap dump. I’m saying no one will pay for him. So he’s either a cane moving forward or a buyout. (Not a cap dump)
May 21 at 3:45 p.m.
#19
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2023
Posts: 14
Likes: 3
Quoting: Caniac2000
Carolina should not be adding to Necas for Pinto. Necas is the more valuable player, and by quite a large margin. No reason to move Freddie. That's a slight overpay on both Jarvis and Guentzel. It makes way more sense to bridge Jarvis for 5, and not overpay Duclair to bring someone like Teravainen back. Bad overpayment on Martinook. FUS probably doesn't make the roster over Nadeau. Chatfield isn't coming back, he SUCKED. Would make more sense to keep DeAngelo who was way better in the playoffs


Slight overpay for Jarvis yes, but it's worth it in the long run and remembered for his next deal. Pay them young, not when they're old. Guentzel will get more than 9.5 on the open market, not an overpay at all. A right handed 2C is much more valuable to Carolina than Necas, Carolina even tried Necas at center in the past. The guy can't win faceoffs.... Andersen needs to go to give Kochetkov a chance. We have two goalies that are the same, one is old, one is young. Make a move in that case. FUS is a right wing, Nadeau is a left wing. Both are good, but Nadeau is more of a skill player where FUS is more of a 2 way player. That line will fit better being a 2 way line. Let Nadeau develop with top 6 mins in the AHL where he can play his role (kind of how you're supposed to develop players). The fact you said Chatfield "SUCKS" shows your knowledge. I respect your opinion, but at the same time we have to be realistic and you're just not.
May 21 at 3:49 p.m.
#20
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2023
Posts: 14
Likes: 3
Quoting: NYR1983
Freddie allowed a lot of soft/ inopportune goals. I’ve always liked him but I’d have to think he’s the reason for the loss, much like when he was in Toronto and Anaheim.

Also for the OP, KK is a buyout not a dump for assets


Left cap space for a KK buyout. The trade is just the ideal situation.
NYR1983 liked this.
May 21 at 4:46 p.m.
#21
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2022
Posts: 2,323
Likes: 1,305
Quoting: Caniac2000
This would get their new GM fired. Necas >>>> Pinto, they take this and run. Stop it now


yes Necas has been more productive, obviously. but Pinto is a younger, cheaper, known quantity two-way centre who has expressed interest in signing long-term. he just fits the Sens’ needs better than a perimeter winger who’s gonna need a new, expensive contract
athrin and StutzlesNumber1Fan liked this.
May 21 at 4:48 p.m.
#22
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 20,871
Likes: 5,220
Quoting: Whalers12
Slight overpay for Jarvis yes, but it's worth it in the long run and remembered for his next deal. Pay them young, not when they're old. Guentzel will get more than 9.5 on the open market, not an overpay at all. A right handed 2C is much more valuable to Carolina than Necas, Carolina even tried Necas at center in the past. The guy can't win faceoffs.... Andersen needs to go to give Kochetkov a chance. We have two goalies that are the same, one is old, one is young. Make a move in that case. FUS is a right wing, Nadeau is a left wing. Both are good, but Nadeau is more of a skill player where FUS is more of a 2 way player. That line will fit better being a 2 way line. Let Nadeau develop with top 6 mins in the AHL where he can play his role (kind of how you're supposed to develop players). The fact you said Chatfield "SUCKS" shows your knowledge. I respect your opinion, but at the same time we have to be realistic and you're just not.


Guentzel might get 9.5 on the open market, but the entire point of keeping him in Carolina would be to get him at slightly below that. 8.5-9 is much more realistic.

If you want to talk about realism, Jarvis is getting bridged, so this 8x8 overpayment is completely out of the question.

While a RH2C would be more valuable than Necas, Pinto isn't that. He's not a 2C, it's why he was playing as a 3C in Ottawa. He's Jack Drury with better linemates.

FUS is a RW, but you've put him here on a line with Drury, and Drury played RW this year, not LW. So Drury goes back to RW, Nadeau gets his shot since he's NHL ready.

Chatfield sucks. If you watched the games this postseason, I don't know how you can have a differing opinion. This man can skate like the wind, but he's SO bad everywhere else
May 21 at 4:49 p.m.
#23
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 20,871
Likes: 5,220
Quoting: emoprettyboy
yes Necas has been more productive, obviously. but Pinto is a younger, cheaper, known quantity two-way centre who has expressed interest in signing long-term. he just fits the Sens’ needs better than a perimeter winger who’s gonna need a new, expensive contract


Pinto's going to need a new, expensive contract... so that's kind of redundant. Necas is the better player, he offers more, and is more valuable given that he has no prior suspensions for gambling
May 21 at 4:55 p.m.
#24
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2022
Posts: 2,323
Likes: 1,305
Quoting: Caniac2000
Pinto's going to need a new, expensive contract... so that's kind of redundant. Necas is the better player, he offers more, and is more valuable given that he has no prior suspensions for gambling


Pinto’s next contract will come in at least 2M under Necas’ and the Sens could easily be pretty thin at centre if Norris is still injured. also if Pinto’s trade value is lower because of his suspension, then that’s even more reason for the Sens to keep him
May 21 at 4:56 p.m.
#25
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 20,871
Likes: 5,220
Quoting: emoprettyboy
Pinto’s next contract will come in at least 2M under Necas’ and the Sens could easily be pretty thin at centre if Norris is still injured. also if Pinto’s trade value is lower because of his suspension, then that’s even more reason for the Sens to keep him


Necas has been deployed at center most of this season....

image.png?ex=664e2334&is=664cd1b4&hm=13581a5b56511e3bb014129c6373551ece1ef86bdb298544f1d52f5a5aec38aa&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll