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Team: 2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 22, 2024
Published: May 22, 2024
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  1. Toropchenko, Alexey
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Without the inclusion of Knies or Marner, what would be a fair offer for Toropchenko? Or is he an immovable piece?
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2024
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May 22 at 8:57 p.m.
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He does not take faceoffs is not a center (a position more valuable than winger) Congrats he's cheaper its not surprising that you don't know the value of a player Show me 1 trade that someone similar to him got more than a 3rd round pick


I already did before but you can’t read. He’s a younger Barbeshev only bigger and faster…and yes he has played center before also
May 22 at 9:29 p.m.
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I already did before but you can’t read. He’s a younger Barbeshev only bigger and faster…and yes he has played center before also


Ryan Reaves
May 22 at 9:30 p.m.
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Ryan Reaves


???
May 22 at 9:34 p.m.
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???


Reavo was a fourth liner who got more than a third.

Sorry missed the multi quote
May 22 at 9:35 p.m.
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Reavo was a fourth liner who got more than a third.


Ah touché
May 22 at 9:49 p.m.
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He does not take faceoffs is not a center (a position more valuable than winger) Congrats he's cheaper its not surprising that you don't know the value of a player Show me 1 trade that someone similar to him got more than a 3rd round pick


Toropchenko had 14 goals 21 pts this past season. Colorado traded a 2nd for Lars Eller in 2023. He had 10 G 23 pts that year. Torpo > Eller. Ottawa traded Connor Brown for a 2nd. He had 12 points with Edmonton this year. Torpo > Brown. Also as NOTED stated earlier, Pitt traded a 1st for Reaves. And since I know you’ll complain, Eller had no points in 7 playoff games with COL, Brown has 1 in 6 with EDM and he’s been mostly scratched. Torpo has 2 pts in 12 career playoff games and he’d have more this year with his role on the team. If STL wanted to they could get a 2nd or possibly a Barbashev-like return.

https://thehockeywriters.com/blues-toropchenko-developing-ceiling-limited/
May 22 at 10:12 p.m.
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Toropchenko had 14 goals 21 pts this past season. Colorado traded a 2nd for Lars Eller in 2023. He had 10 G 23 pts that year. Torpo > Eller. Ottawa traded Connor Brown for a 2nd. He had 12 points with Edmonton this year. Torpo > Brown. Also as NOTED stated earlier, Pitt traded a 1st for Reaves. And since I know you’ll complain, Eller had no points in 7 playoff games with COL, Brown has 1 in 6 with EDM and he’s been mostly scratched. Torpo has 2 pts in 12 career playoff games and he’d have more this year with his role on the team. If STL wanted to they could get a 2nd or possibly a Barbashev-like return.

https://thehockeywriters.com/blues-toropchenko-developing-ceiling-limited/


It’s not really fair to compare what Brown was worth at the time to what he’s worth now
May 23 at 3:16 p.m.
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I already did before but you can’t read. He’s a younger Barbeshev only bigger and faster…and yes he has played center before also


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Ryan Reaves


Reaves was a downgrade not a 1st round pick try again

Ryan reaves
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for

Oskar Sundqvist
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May 23 at 5:26 p.m.
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Reaves was a downgrade not a 1st round pick try again

Ryan reaves
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for

Oskar Sundqvist
1st round pick


Downgrade??? Sundqvist was a key part of the Blues winning the cup and they moved up 20 spots in the draft...it's almost like your hockey knowledge is non-existent yet you try to act like you're really smart...shocker
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May 23 at 6:54 p.m.
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Downgrade??? Sundqvist was a key part of the Blues winning the cup and they moved up 20 spots in the draft...it's almost like your hockey knowledge is non-existent yet you try to act like you're really smart...shocker


let me make it easier for you

They did not trade a 1st round pick for Reaves they downgraded a 1st round pick to a 2nd round pick as compensation for the difference between Reaves and Sundqvist.

Unlike you I do not need to try to insult other people. "Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong."

So I will ask again Any example where a 4th liner gets a 1st round pick?
May 23 at 7:06 p.m.
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let me make it easier for you

They did not trade a 1st round pick for Reaves they downgraded a 1st round pick to a 2nd round pick as compensation for the difference between Reaves and Sundqvist.

Unlike you I do not need to try to insult other people. "Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong."

So I will ask again Any example where a 4th liner gets a 1st round pick?


Again -
Barbeshev was a 4th line player when the Blues won the cup. He was basically the same age as Toropchenko at the time. (Both play up and down the line-up - not just 4th line. Barbeshev was traded for a 1st.
May 23 at 7:14 p.m.
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Again -
Barbeshev was a 4th line player when the Blues won the cup. He was basically the same age as Toropchenko at the time. (Both play up and down the line-up - not just 4th line. Barbeshev was traded for a 1st.


He was traded for a former 1st round pick in ZACH DEAN not a 1st round pick. Also Barbeshev was older had a 26G /60pts season the season before he was traded clearly more valuable than Torp
May 23 at 7:20 p.m.
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He was traded for a former 1st round pick in ZACH DEAN not a 1st round pick. Also Barbeshev was older had a 26G /60pts season the season before he was traded clearly more valuable than Torp


I understand comprehension is hard…. Toropchenko is on pace to be like Barbeshev. So value for Blues to trade him would be high.

Also the Leafs traded a first for Nick Foligno who was basically a fourth line player production wise at the time
 
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