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Team: 2024-25 Chicago Blackhawks
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May 23 at 3:10 p.m.
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Go Demidov this year and then suck badly enough to get Hensler next year and the Hawks are back on top lmao.
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May 23 at 3:14 p.m.
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I’d go Demdiov in CHI pov

MTL also declines that trade
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May 23 at 3:18 p.m.
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That’s not enough to take on Dvorak. Kane is reportedly looking for term & from a contender. Hawks have no need to sign any LDs. Plenty of kids in the pipeline that need ice time to develop. Hawks need someone to compete with/push Soderblom. I guess Picard checks that box.
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May 23 at 3:21 p.m.
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Chicago is not taking on Dvorak and even if they wanted to, that's nowhere near enough to get it done.
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May 23 at 3:29 p.m.
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Zero reason for Montreal to trade Dvorak.
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May 23 at 3:33 p.m.
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I hope the Hawks draft Demidov. He looks to be the best player available. If you're drafting for position of need. Fine, that's Levshunov because our RD pipeline is Sam Rinzel deep and that's it, BUT KD's been very clear that you draft best available. I think he will draft Demidov as well. Rebuilds take time and if it takes 2 years before Demidov comes over...so be it.
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May 23 at 3:38 p.m.
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Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease select Demidov, Dickinson, Lindstrom or Silayev. -- Signed, Anaheim Fans
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May 23 at 3:44 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease select Demidov, Dickinson, Lindstrom or Silayev. -- Signed, Anaheim Fans


haha. If I had the prospect pool that ANA has, I might be hoping Levshunov falls to 3rd OA too. I still don't think Levshunov is the best player available at 3rd, but I think he fits what is probably ANA's biggest need.
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May 23 at 3:47 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease select Demidov, Dickinson, Lindstrom or Silayev. -- Signed, Anaheim Fans


As a Jackets fan, I want Chicago to pick Levshunov because that means Demidov probably falls to 4OA. As a Ducks fan, I want Chicago to pick Demidov so the Ducks get Levshunov (once Demidov is gone, I am not terribly pressed about who Columbus ends with). I just hope all of us get the best fit for our teams in the end. Except Montreal—I hope they end up having to settle for a defenseman because reading their fan reactions is always funny.
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May 23 at 3:51 p.m.
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Take Levshunov. They will need a top defenseman on the right side eventually and he fits their MO. Next year's draft is chalked full of strong forwards
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May 23 at 3:55 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease select Demidov, Dickinson, Lindstrom or Silayev. -- Signed, Anaheim Fans


Pretty sure Anaheim wins regardless. They need a top 6 RW, Demidov fits that. They need RD, Levshunov fits that. Pretty sure they don't need more offense from the blue line though so not getting Levshunov is not catastrophic at all
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May 23 at 4:01 p.m.
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It should be a no brainer. CHI should pick Demidov. I still have a feeling they are gonna go with Levshunov, though. I predict that everyone banging their fists on the table for Levshunov right now will be the same people who are ridiculing Kyle Davidson in a few years for not picking Demidov. Even if CHI doesn't like Demidov for some reason, I think I would pick Lindstrom over Levshunov. But if they take Levshunov, what else can we do but hope for the best.
May 23 at 4:37 p.m.
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It should be a no brainer. CHI should pick Demidov. I still have a feeling they are gonna go with Levshunov, though. I predict that everyone banging their fists on the table for Levshunov right now will be the same people who are ridiculing Kyle Davidson in a few years for not picking Demidov. Even if CHI doesn't like Demidov for some reason, I think I would pick Lindstrom over Levshunov. But if they take Levshunov, what else can we do but hope for the best.


I personally have serious concerns about Demidov’s lack of exposure against top level competition. The Russian junior league is nothing special and he hasn’t played KHL games. On top of that he hasn’t gone head to head against his own age group internationally because of the ban on Russia competing.
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May 23 at 4:44 p.m.
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I personally have serious concerns about Demidov’s lack of exposure against top level competition. The Russian junior league is nothing special and he hasn’t played KHL games. On top of that he hasn’t gone head to head against his own age group internationally because of the ban on Russia competing.


Kucherov spent a lot of time in the MHL and never had a lot of time in the KHL and he's done ok.
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May 23 at 4:49 p.m.
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As a Jackets fan, I want Chicago to pick Levshunov because that means Demidov probably falls to 4OA. As a Ducks fan, I want Chicago to pick Demidov so the Ducks get Levshunov (once Demidov is gone, I am not terribly pressed about who Columbus ends with). I just hope all of us get the best fit for our teams in the end. Except Montreal—I hope they end up having to settle for a defenseman because reading their fan reactions is always funny.


As a Habs fan, if for whatever reason Habs end up selecting Levshunov (highly unlikely) or Silayev, I'd 100% be ok with that.

I still think they take Lindstrom or Demidov (if still there) and have Iginla as their backup option. All good choices imo
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May 23 at 4:52 p.m.
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I personally have serious concerns about Demidov’s lack of exposure against top level competition. The Russian junior league is nothing special and he hasn’t played KHL games. On top of that he hasn’t gone head to head against his own age group internationally because of the ban on Russia competing.


I get it, but I have zero concerns about that. The only reason I can see that being a concern is if we expect him to come into the NHL and be a superstar immediately, but I never expect that. I didn't even expect it with Bedard, and I still think Bedsy has a lot of work to do to get there. There will certainly be a learning curve, but it's the same for any player. The MHL isn't far behind the WHL and OHL, and is clearly more advanced than the USHL and QMJHL. The tools and skills are all there, the brain, IQ, and processing are all there, and he has the work ethic, and motor for pro hockey and the extra gear for playoff hockey.
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May 23 at 5:09 p.m.
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Kucherov spent a lot of time in the MHL and never had a lot of time in the KHL and he's done ok.


Well Kucherov did come over and tear up the Quebec Jr league for two points a game one season. (63 points in 33 games).

At the WJC-18 he had 21 points in 7 games.

At two WJC-20 over two years had 15 points in 14 games.

Although he didn’t play a lot in the KHL, he still did manage to get into 27 games.

Despite all of that higher level exposure Kucherov was still a 2nd round pick.

In comparison Demidov had four games in the KHL.
May 23 at 5:14 p.m.
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Well Kucherov did come over and tear up the Quebec Jr league for two points a game one season. (63 points in 33 games).

At the WJC-18 he had 21 points in 7 games.

At two WJC-20 over two years had 15 points in 14 games.

Although he didn’t play a lot in the KHL, he still did manage to get into 27 games.

Despite all of that higher level exposure Kucherov was still a 2nd round pick.

In comparison Demidov had four games in the KHL.


Demidov is also, by all accounts, refusing to extend with SKA. So they have chosen to give ice time to guys who are committed to staying with SKA over him.
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May 23 at 5:28 p.m.
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Demidov is also, by all accounts, refusing to extend with SKA. So they have chosen to give ice time to guys who are committed to staying with SKA over him.


That’s fine but you still haven’t had the opportunity to see him compete against higher level competition regardless of the reasons why.

Look if this was a mid first round pick we were talking about then I would be better off with picking Demidov but this is # 2 overall, you can’t miss, you need to add a cornerstone player for the next decade or so.
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May 23 at 5:56 p.m.
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That’s fine but you still haven’t had the opportunity to see him compete against higher level competition regardless of the reasons why.

Look if this was a mid first round pick we were talking about then I would be better off with picking Demidov but this is # 2 overall, you can’t miss, you need to add a cornerstone player for the next decade or so.


World Juniors are against their peers, too. So, that isn't exactly "higher level competition". It is nice to watch and can be a good showcase for some players, but should be taken with a grain of salt, in most cases. As I said previously, it doesn't worry me. Demidov is the closest thing to a can't miss after Celebrini, but NO ONE is ever "can't miss."

I don't want to tear Levshunov down, because he is an intriguing player. In fact, I went into this season thinking he would probably go in the top 2 or 3. But after watching most of his games this season, i'm not even sure I would put him in my top 5. I think we can target guys like Emery, Badinka, and Brunicke later on in the draft and still walk away very happy about addressing any needs for RD.
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May 23 at 5:56 p.m.
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World Juniors are against their peers, too. So, that isn't exactly "higher level competition". It is nice to watch and can be a good showcase for some players, but should be taken with a grain of salt, in most cases. As I said previously, it doesn't worry me. Demidov is the closest thing to a can't miss after Celebrini, but NO ONE is ever "can't miss." I don't want to tear Levshunov down, because he is an intriguing player. In fact, I went into this season thinking he would probably go in the top 2 or 3. But after watching most of his games this season, i'm not even sure I would put him in my top 5. I think we can target guys like Emery, Badinka, and Brunicke later on in the draft and still walk away very happy about addressing any needs for RD.


I would love to get Emery later in the 1st.
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May 23 at 6:03 p.m.
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I would love to get Emery later in the 1st.


Same here. I also think Brunicke is underrated and will go much earlier in mock re-drafts.
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May 23 at 9:11 p.m.
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World Juniors are against their peers, too. So, that isn't exactly "higher level competition". It is nice to watch and can be a good showcase for some players, but should be taken with a grain of salt, in most cases. As I said previously, it doesn't worry me. Demidov is the closest thing to a can't miss after Celebrini, but NO ONE is ever "can't miss."

I don't want to tear Levshunov down, because he is an intriguing player. In fact, I went into this season thinking he would probably go in the top 2 or 3. But after watching most of his games this season, i'm not even sure I would put him in my top 5. I think we can target guys like Emery, Badinka, and Brunicke later on in the draft and still walk away very happy about addressing any needs for RD.


World Juniors are against the best players in their age group world wide, it is widely considered to be one of the best quality tournaments a player can compete in. There is no other junior competition that comes even remotely close to it when you look at the quality of the players.
May 23 at 9:26 p.m.
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World Juniors are against the best players in their age group world wide, it is widely considered to be one of the best quality tournaments a player can compete in. There is no other junior competition that comes even remotely close to it when you look at the quality of the players.


It is all the best most elite players stacked on like 2 to 4 teams going against a handful of teams that barely stand a chance. Again, it is great for showcasing talents and all that, but players stats are inflated from both playing with other high end talents and playing against low-ish end talent. Lot's of guys have great WJC's and go on to be mediocre in pro, and lots of guys have mediocre WJC's or don't even make the team to begin with and go on to be stars. Some really good players get left out in favor of balancing the roster with grinders and role players. There are things that it is great for in scouting, but it is not the same as watching players in a consistent team setting playing a whole season under the same coaches and watching their development curves over the span of years rather than a few weeks. It should not be taken as a baseline and should not be used as a definitive measurement of the players who compete in it.

So, it is important and it also isn't. By no means, is it the end all be all of scouting or a necessary requirement.
May 24 at 11:57 a.m.
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It is all the best most elite players stacked on like 2 to 4 teams going against a handful of teams that barely stand a chance. Again, it is great for showcasing talents and all that, but players stats are inflated from both playing with other high end talents and playing against low-ish end talent. Lot's of guys have great WJC's and go on to be mediocre in pro, and lots of guys have mediocre WJC's or don't even make the team to begin with and go on to be stars. Some really good players get left out in favor of balancing the roster with grinders and role players. There are things that it is great for in scouting, but it is not the same as watching players in a consistent team setting playing a whole season under the same coaches and watching their development curves over the span of years rather than a few weeks. It should not be taken as a baseline and should not be used as a definitive measurement of the players who compete in it.

So, it is important and it also isn't. By no means, is it the end all be all of scouting or a necessary requirement.


I think we will have to agree to disagree when it comes to Demidov.

Obviously the World Jrs is not the be all end all of scouting, the point is, it is still an elite level event which can be used to measure a player against their peers. Yes some players get left off rosters in favour of grinders and role players but those grinders and role players are still the best their countries have to offer in those roles and above average players in their respective leagues. Is there some low end talent playing for weaker hockey nations? Absolutely, that is no different than weaker talent playing for bad junior teams in the CHL, USHL and yea even the MHL.

If it was just the World Jrs that was missing from Demidov’s resume BUT there was a large sample size of competition against KHL players I would feel much more comfortable with him as the # 2 pick… there just isn’t we only have MHL games to base his evaluation on.

You also mentioned in a previous post how Demidov was being punished by SKA for his refusal to extend with them and that is a reason for his limited game action in the KHL, I don’t doubt that as it seems very plausible. I would they want to make sure before selecting Demidov that I can get him to NA for the start of next season and not leave his development this coming season in the hands of an organization that doesn’t have his best interest as a priority.

At the end of the day, if the Hawks decide Demidov is their guy I will cheer him on and hope he ends up being a mega star for years to come but to think selecting is not a greater risk given his lack of exposure to higher level competition is just approaching the situation with blinders on in my opinion.
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