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Team: 2024-25 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: May 21, 2024
Published: May 25, 2024
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Usual goalie trade. I have zeroed in on Linus Ullmark, I think it’s the most obvious path forward.
I tried to platoon the middle 6 winger position. I want clarity on Arseni Gritsyuk before committing long term to a winger. I like having more right handed shot depth at the forward position.
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2$1,000,000
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2$850,000
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1$775,000
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  1. Clarke, Graeme [RFA Rights]
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (WPG)
  3. 2026 4th round pick (DAL)
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  1. Hatakka, Santeri [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (WPG)
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Additional compensation might be required. Trade modeled after Tyler Toffoli trade to NJD. Did not offer more because Palmieri did not have a 73 point season like Toffoli did.
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RD
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May 25 at 10:53 a.m.
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Boston declines
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May 25 at 11:00 a.m.
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Boston declines


Find a better offer and I’ll match it. Until then, this is the best there is
May 25 at 11:03 a.m.
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Quoting: NJTM
Find a better offer and I’ll match it. Until then, this is the best there is


By that time, he’ll be gone.

Would you be interested in Frederick Andersen for the Winnipeg third since you don’t want to pay for Ullmark.
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May 25 at 11:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Celtics21
By that time, he’ll be gone. Would you be interested in Frederick Andersen for the Winnipeg third?


Are you speculating a Martin Necas for Linus Ullmark trade? Do you know what that trade looks like? Martin Necas doesn’t play center. Does that really help you?
May 25 at 11:04 a.m.
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That offer doesn't get you Linus Ullmark.

And Friedman basically said that Carolina is the front runner or him. He doesn't see Ullmark waiving for the NJD.
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May 25 at 11:07 a.m.
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Are you speculating a Martin Necas for Linus Ullmark trade? Do you know what that trade looks like? Martin Necas doesn’t play center. Does that really help you?


I’m speculating on a Ullmark, Lysell, pick for Necas and Andersen deal.

Boston should have the cap room to still sign Swayman and a center.
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May 25 at 11:10 a.m.
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That offer doesn't get you Linus Ullmark.

And Friedman basically said that Carolina is the front runner or him. He doesn't see Ullmark waiving for the NJD.


He mentioned that Boston and Carolina discussed Ullmark to Carolina at the deadline. He didn’t know the comp, but tried to put two and two together with Necas.

I didn’t hear him say the Ullmark waiving to NJD part in the 32 thoughts podcast. Even the Ottawa writer corrected that in his article. That said, Friedman makes the rounds and I could have missed it
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May 25 at 11:12 a.m.
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I’m speculating on a Ullmark, Lysell, pick for Necas and Andersen deal.

Boston should have the cap room to still sign Swayman and a center.


I question how Carolina stays cap compliant in this situation. They add $1.4M in cap space ($3M for Necas + $3.4M for Andersen - $5M for Ullmark) but have to replace Necas and ½ of their defense. Not to mention retaining or replacing Guentzel and Teravainen. I’m counting on this being too many moving parts to execute a change in their goaltending.
May 25 at 11:15 a.m.
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I question how Carolina stays cap compliant in this situation. They add $1.4M in cap space ($3M for Necas + $3.4M for Andersen - $5M for Ullmark) but have to replace Necas and ½ of their defense. Not to mention retaining or replacing Guentzel and Teravainen. I’m counting on this being too many moving parts to execute a change in their goaltending.


Necas is an RFA. Hes likely making in the 7M range barring a bridge contract.

They also have 2 premium defense prospects and I assume they are going to be able to sign Guentzel, Jarvis, and Skjei while still doing this deal. The 1.6M increase in salary with Ullmark over Andersen is not an impediment.

The open issue is Boston will probably want to find a home for Andersen in this case. Hell, they may even be on his NTC for all we know

Frankly Ullmark to Carolina makes a ton of sense if both sides are willing to take a risk. Might make more sense than Jersey
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May 25 at 11:19 a.m.
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Necas is an RFA. Hes likely making in the 7M range barring a bridge contract.

They also gave 2 premium defense prospects and I assume they are going to be able to sign Guentzel, Jarvis, and Skjei while still doing this deal. The 1.6M increase in salary with Ullmark over Andersen is not an impediment.

The open issue is Boston will probably want to find a home for Andersen in this case. Hell, they may even be on his NTC for all we know


Alexander Nikishin will not be in the NHL for the start of the 2024-2025 season. They still need to ice a defense for the time being. It’s just a lot of business for an interim GM who took over yesterday. This is a lot of business to conduct in a 6 week period. While Ullmark to CAR makes some sense, there are so many moving parts that make it logistically complicated.
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May 25 at 11:20 a.m.
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NJD seems like Boston’s only option for Ullmark. But Ullmark doesn’t appear to be NJD’s only option for a goalie. Markstrom, Gustavsson, Saros have been linked to NJD. Will all probably fall like dominoes during first week of July.

Gritsyuk is not coming over in 2024-25. He has said publicly that he intends to finish his contract in KHL. And both him and his agent have said they plan on coming over immediate after (so at the earliest in March 2025).
May 25 at 11:20 a.m.
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Find a better offer and I’ll match it. Until then, this is the best there is


Cool, it’s declined still. Don’t need to trade him. Would like to. But don’t have to. You are not in position to dictate.
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May 25 at 11:20 a.m.
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He mentioned that Boston and Carolina discussed Ullmark to Carolina at the deadline. He didn’t know the comp, but tried to put two and two together with Necas.

I didn’t hear him say the Ullmark waiving to NJD part in the 32 thoughts podcast. Even the Ottawa writer corrected that in his article. That said, Friedman makes the rounds and I could have missed it


It might be false, But it was mentioned on Twitter that Linus Ullmark had nixed a deal with the Devils. I can't remember his name but it was reportedly a Devils insider that had mentioned it.
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May 25 at 11:28 a.m.
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NJD seems like Boston’s only option for Ullmark. But Ullmark doesn’t appear to be NJD’s only option for a goalie. Markstrom, Gustavsson, Saros have been linked to NJD. Will all probably fall like dominoes during first week of July.

Gritsyuk is not coming over in 2024-25. He has said publicly that he intends to finish his contract in KHL. And both him and his agent have said they plan on coming over immediate after (so at the earliest in March 2025).


I’m glad you at least see the vision. The goal was to have palmieri platoon the winger position for the time being. I didn’t want to commit long term to anyone until I knew whether Gritsyuk would be an effective NHL player.

There will be the usual digging heels in on Ullmark but I really think the writing is on the wall. The impending trade to Carolina is extremely speculative because of all the moving parts involved. Boston fans may not like it, but they’ll have little choice unless they really like first line center Pavel Zacha.
May 25 at 11:36 a.m.
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NJD seems like Boston’s only option for Ullmark. But Ullmark doesn’t appear to be NJD’s only option for a goalie. Markstrom, Gustavsson, Saros have been linked to NJD. Will all probably fall like dominoes during first week of July.

Gritsyuk is not coming over in 2024-25. He has said publicly that he intends to finish his contract in KHL. And both him and his agent have said they plan on coming over immediate after (so at the earliest in March 2025).


I think that’s a false narrative you’ve put in your head.

I don’t believe Nashville is trading Saros unless they are getting a big name in return.

Gustavsson comes with the question. Which year was the anomaly? Two years ago where he looked good OR last year when he looked like every other Devils goalie with a negative GSaX/60.

Go ahead and negotiate with Calgary once they know Markstrom is the only premium goaltender on the market. That should go well

Reality is Boston is in the position to go with the two goalie rotation again AND sign Lindholm. They may need to depend on more production from Lysell or Poitras, but both look promising. It’s kind of like your bet with Holtz, Mercer, and Schmid the last two years. Could fail, but has massive upside.
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May 25 at 11:39 a.m.
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i will be the usual digging heels in on Ullmark but I really think the writing is on the wall. The impending trade to Carolina is extremely speculative because of all the moving parts involved. Boston fans may not like it, but they’ll have little choice unless they really like first line center Pavel Zacha.


Do you need a go fund me for a calculator?
May 25 at 11:52 a.m.
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I’m glad you at least see the vision. The goal was to have palmieri platoon the winger position for the time being. I didn’t want to commit long term to anyone until I knew whether Gritsyuk would be an effective NHL player.

There will be the usual digging heels in on Ullmark but I really think the writing is on the wall. The impending trade to Carolina is extremely speculative because of all the moving parts involved. Boston fans may not like it, but they’ll have little choice unless they really like first line center Pavel Zacha.


I don’t know about Palmieri…could just sign a free agent for one year (like Tarasenko last year). There are always wingers available.

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I think that’s a false narrative you’ve put in your head.

I don’t believe Nashville is trading Saros unless they are getting a big name in return.

Gustavsson comes with the question. Which year was the anomaly? Two years ago where he looked good OR last year when he looked like every other Devils goalie with a negative GSaX/60.

Go ahead and negotiate with Calgary once they know Markstrom is the only premium goaltender on the market. That should go well

Reality is Boston is in the position to go with the two goalie rotation again AND sign Lindholm. They may need to depend on more production from Lysell or Poitras, but both look promising. It’s kind of like your bet with Holtz, Mercer, and Schmid the last two years. Could fail, but has massive upside.


The false narrative is, “Devils are desperate for goalie, they will pay double”

We have seen it from about 6-7 fan bases now over last couple of years. People really need to look through the history of goalie trades in NHL. Rarely do the actual prices come close to the ACGM prices.

Until Swayman signs, Boston situation is cloudier than many of the others. Calgary is in full rebuild, Markstrom wants out (and is openly feuding with their GM). Trotz has shown he can be aggressive…and I’m sure he has plans for both trade Saros and extend Saros/trade Askorov scenarios. But it does sound like one goalie moves. Florida is talking about extending Stolarz (meaning Knight may become available). Minnesota has been saying they may move Gustavsson to move up in draft.
May 25 at 12:11 p.m.
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The false narrative is, “Devils are desperate for goalie, they will pay double”

We have seen it from about 6-7 fan bases now over last couple of years. People really need to look through the history of goalie trades in NHL. Rarely do the actual prices come close to the ACGM prices.

Until Swayman signs, Boston situation is cloudier than many of the others. Calgary is in full rebuild, Markstrom wants out (and is openly feuding with their GM). Trotz has shown he can be aggressive…and I’m sure he has plans for both trade Saros and extend Saros/trade Askorov scenarios. But it does sound like one goalie moves. Florida is talking about extending Stolarz (meaning Knight may become available). Minnesota has been saying they may move Gustavsson to move up in draft.


My perspective is simple. The Devils need a goalie and frankly can fix one of their biggest issues for what I don’t believe is a large price. A 2025 lottery protected first seems like a viable outcome, but you and one other NI fan seen pretty hell bent in throwing comparables with cap implications to the mix.

Taylor Hall being traded for a 2nd round pick after winning the Hart Trophy isn’t an indication of forward values.

The funny thing is I mentioned Ullmark at the beginning of last season and most Jersey fans were happy to go with Schmid and Vanacek. I seem to recall arguments about goalies being fickle and how you’d get Hellebuyck for pennies on the dollar. That failed miserably and yet there seems to be no learning from the Pavlovian example you just went through

Sure, you can go with a goalie who has out up inferior numbers to Michael DiPietro in the AHL and makes good money or another one who has a negative GsaX/60, but that risk you took last year is one of the major reasons you now hold the 10th pick rather than taking your place among the best in the East.

Markstrom and Ullmark seem like your best bets to do it and it doesn’t appear to be frankly that close.
May 25 at 12:14 p.m.
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My perspective is simple. The Devils need a goalie and frankly can fix one of their biggest issues for what I don’t believe is a large price. A 2025 lottery protected first seems like a viable outcome, but you and one other NI fan seen pretty hell bent in throwing comparables with cap implications to the mix.

Taylor Hall being traded for a 2nd round pick after winning the Hart Trophy isn’t an indication of forward values.

Sure, you can go with a goalie who has out up inferior numbers to Michael DiPietro in the AHL and makes good money or another one who has a negative GsaX/60, but that risk you took last year is one of the major reasons you now hold the 10th pick rather than taking your place among the best in the East.

Markstrom and Ullmark seem like your best bets to do it and it doesn’t appear to be frankly that close.


Fans dislike comps because they are realistic and get in the way of their wants.

But…if you want to find accurate trade values…always trust the comps.
May 25 at 12:17 p.m.
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Fans dislike comps because they are realistic and get in the way of their wants.

But…if you want to find accurate trade values…always trust the comps.


I trust comps when they aren’t tied to cap dumps and aren’t selectively chosen
May 25 at 12:21 p.m.
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I trust comps when they aren’t tied to cap dumps and aren’t selectively chosen


They are specifically chosen around cap, clauses, team, player. You mention Hall one…I’ve NEVER used that as a comp for a goalie.

Most recent comp for Ullmark would probably be Grubauer. But the buying team, who sent a 1st in following years draft, didn’t finish outside the playoffs.
May 25 at 12:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Celtics21
I trust comps when they aren’t tied to cap dumps and aren’t selectively chosen


Perspective matters here. Boston got Taylor Hall for a second rounder because the alternative was Buffalo letting him walk for free. It became a matter of Boston being the highest bidder.

In this scenario, Linus Ullmark is a cap dump. A desirable cap dump, but a cap dump nonetheless. If we assume Ullmark has to be traded to make room for better scoring depth for the bruins, he will go to the highest bidder. What you seem to be relying on is a very speculative offer from the hurricanes involving a lot of moving parts. I personally don’t think the hurricanes would be maximizing Martin Necas’ value if they got Lysell and one year of Linus Ullmark.
May 25 at 12:33 p.m.
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Perspective matters here. Boston got Taylor Hall for a second rounder because the alternative was Buffalo letting him walk for free. It became a matter of Boston being the highest bidder.

In this scenario, Linus Ullmark is a cap dump. A desirable cap dump, but a cap dump nonetheless. If we assume Ullmark has to be traded to make room for better scoring depth for the bruins, he will go to the highest bidder. What you seem to be relying on is a very speculative offer from the hurricanes involving a lot of moving parts. I personally don’t think the hurricanes would be maximizing Martin Necas’ value if they got Lysell and one year of Linus Ullmark.


Boston traded Taylor Hall last year for Ian Mitchell and Alec Regula with the only reason being cap compliance and the reason that the original deal was low was because of the presence of an NMC. All that was meant to say is cap conditions often influence comps.

There are very few great goaltender deals that didn’t fall in those same conditions.

Ullmark is a superior goalie to most of the realistic names being flagged. Everyone who roots for either team knows it outside of the occasional delusion that you are going to end up with Saros or Swayman, which sounds almost eerily similar to the Hellebuyck stuff coming from this fan base last year. My assumption is you are going to end up with either Markstrom or Ullmark unless you do something stupid
May 25 at 12:40 p.m.
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They are specifically chosen around cap, clauses, team, player. You mention Hall one…I’ve NEVER used that as a comp for a goalie.

Most recent comp for Ullmark would probably be Grubauer. But the buying team, who sent a 1st in following years draft, didn’t finish outside the playoffs.


Not Grubauer. Kuemper.

Brain fart.
May 25 at 12:51 p.m.
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Boston traded Taylor Hall last year for Ian Mitchell and Alec Regula with the only reason being cap compliance and the reason that the original deal was low was because of the presence of an NMC. All that was meant to say is cap conditions often influence comps.

There are very few great goaltender deals that didn’t fall in those same conditions.

Ullmark is a superior goalie to most of the realistic names being flagged. Everyone who roots for either team knows it outside of the occasional delusion that you are going to end up with Saros or Swayman, which sounds almost eerily similar to the Hellebuyck stuff coming from this fan base last year. My assumption is you are going to end up with either Markstrom or Ullmark unless you do something stupid


And everyone said that we would not be able to obtain Meier without Holtz or Mercer or both. Yet all the comps all said it would be Mukhamadullin, 1st, lesser prospect. Can go back through my timeline and see what I said then.

People claimed it would take Mercer plus 1st to get Markstrom. We found out later, it was just Holtz.

When Devils were bidding for Fiala, the ask was equal to two 1sts. I said comps put it at late 1st and 51-100 prospect (Reinhart was my most common comp there). Wild fans called me nuts.

When Devils were trading Hall in 2019/20, Devils fans wanted Byram or Söderstrom plus picks. I stuck to lesser dman…as both were top-20 prospects at time and those rarely get moved.

Time and time again, it’s a story that repeats itself.

Always. Trust. The. Comps.
 
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