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Created by: JokiStan
Team: 2024-25 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: May 26, 2024
Published: May 26, 2024
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Marner extended 11 x 5
Free Agent Signings
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2$1,500,000
4$4,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$4,500,000
1$2,000,000
1$3,000,000
1$1,200,000
Trades
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  1. Neuchev, Viktor
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
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  1. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
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  1. Jokiharju, Henri [RFA Rights]
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21$87,700,000$85,818,516$0$1,650,000$1,881,484
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 2
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
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UFA - 6
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$855,833$855,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$7,100,000$7,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW
UFA
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
$3,000,000$3,000,000
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UFA
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$886,667$886,667
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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UFA - 1
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RFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
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UFA - 8
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
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RFA
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$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD
UFA - 6
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
G
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
RD
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May 26 at 7:05 a.m.
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Nah im good. Quinn ++ for 1 year of Marner, yeesh
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May 26 at 7:10 a.m.
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Nah im good. Quinn ++ for 1 year of Marner, yeesh


I mean he's extended at 11M x 5 here but yeah I get u
May 26 at 7:23 a.m.
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I mean he's extended at 11M x 5 here but yeah I get u


Especially with that contract, the Sabres already have Dahlin making 11 mill, a 2nd contract like that will be a burden
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May 26 at 7:28 a.m.
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Especially with that contract, the Sabres already have Dahlin making 11 mill, a 2nd contract like that will be a burden


Probably, but either way we're gonna have a hard time with the cap in future years. Quinn + Peterka are gonna be making about as much if not more than that Marner deal
May 26 at 8:19 a.m.
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Leafs pass, Sabres don’t have the pieces for Marner
May 26 at 8:22 a.m.
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Probably, but either way we're gonna have a hard time with the cap in future years. Quinn + Peterka are gonna be making about as much if not more than that Marner deal


Right, that's 2 whole players instead of one
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May 26 at 8:23 a.m.
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Leafs pass, Sabres don’t have the pieces for Marner


Defending a dubas player.

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May 26 at 9:01 a.m.
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Marner is an exceptional winger with high skill-level. That said, I wouldn't give up that package for him.

And any Leaf fan panning the trade, especially when it includes a budding goal-scorer in Quinn, the 11th-overall pick and a power-forward, center prospect in Wahlberg is overthinking Marner's worth as a pending UFA winger with more setup acumen than goal-scoring as well a penchant for playing rather small in the playoffs.
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May 26 at 9:17 a.m.
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Marner is an exceptional winger with high skill-level. That said, I wouldn't give up that package for him.

And any Leaf fan panning the trade, especially when it includes a budding goal-scorer in Quinn, the 11th-overall pick and a power-forward, center prospect in Wahlberg is overthinking Marner's worth as a pending UFA winger with more setup acumen than goal-scoring as well a penchant for playing rather small in the playoffs.


Here’s the thing. The Leafs want players who can produce right now. They aren’t a rebuilding team. So yeah prospects and picks are usually what teams want when trading players of Mitch’s calibre. The Leafs are looking to make a hockey trade.

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May 26 at 9:19 a.m.
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Quoting: Boos
Marner is an exceptional winger with high skill-level. That said, I wouldn't give up that package for him.

And any Leaf fan panning the trade, especially when it includes a budding goal-scorer in Quinn, the 11th-overall pick and a power-forward, center prospect in Wahlberg is overthinking Marner's worth as a pending UFA winger with more setup acumen than goal-scoring as well a penchant for playing rather small in the playoffs.


To add. While Mitch gets dogged for not showing up in the playoffs, he still produces in the playoffs. Historically (juniors and minors) Quinn doesn’t produce either, and those are levels he absolutely should be over a point per game in
May 26 at 9:23 a.m.
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Here’s the thing. The Leafs want players who can produce right now. They aren’t a rebuilding team. So yeah prospects and picks are usually what teams want when trading players of Mitch’s calibre. The Leafs are looking to make a hockey trade.

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Point taken.
May 26 at 9:57 a.m.
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To add. While Mitch gets dogged for not showing up in the playoffs, he still produces in the playoffs. Historically (juniors and minors) Quinn doesn’t produce either, and those are levels he absolutely should be over a point per game in


I guess the big question for me would be, does Marner help this team break Buffalo's playoff drought?

It's pretty obvious he can produce points at a pretty high rate and he's also pretty solid defensively. Having said that, the $10M+ he represents against the cap would eliminate upgrades needed in other areas, most notably 3C and No. 4 d-man. The Sabres have a pretty strong group of wingers and two centers who'll be locking down the top two spots for years to come. They have smaller skill players throughout the organization including young scorers like Peterka and Quinn who are on the rise, and a forward group as a whole that play a perimeter game, which is the type of game Marner leans towards. So other than points, which is nothing to sneeze at, he doesn't really change the dynamic of the forward group (which I believe should be their priority) while still leaving a hole at 3C.

I'd rather financially overpay a Stephenson or Lindholm at center or a Tanev/Roy-type as a second-pair RHD. It's the type of move would cost anywhere from $5-7M for one of those players with the other $3-5M being dispersed where necessary, maybe even upgrading the other position of need.

In that respect, I don't think a highly skilled, high-priced Marner with many of the same traits that the Sabres are filled with at this moment is that much of a difference-maker for his price-tag, whether the cap-hit or trade package.
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May 26 at 10:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Brad_Treliving
Leafs pass, Sabres don’t have the pieces for Marner


Ummmmm…Buffalo has the pieces to trade for virtually anyone!
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May 26 at 10:11 a.m.
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Leafs pass, Sabres don’t have the pieces for Marner


Bahahahaha
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May 26 at 10:20 a.m.
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To add. While Mitch gets dogged for not showing up in the playoffs, he still produces in the playoffs. Historically (juniors and minors) Quinn doesn’t produce either, and those are levels he absolutely should be over a point per game in


Quinn only made the playoffs as a 16 and 17 year old, at 16 he had 2 games and then produced 7 pts in 18 playoff games as a 17 year old. Then put up 89pts in 62 games as an 18 year old, which mathematically is very over a point per game. And 70 points in 60 games in the A is also over a point per game in the minors, which is the exact opposite of your claim
May 26 at 10:25 a.m.
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Quinn only made the playoffs as a 16 and 17 year old, at 16 he had 2 games and then produced 7 pts in 18 playoff games as a 17 year old. Then put up 89pts in 62 games as an 18 year old, which mathematically is very over a point per game. And 70 points in 60 games in the A is also over a point per game in the minors, which is the exact opposite of your claim


Huh? The talk was only about playoffs, not regular season. Was pointing out that if the gripe with Marner is about his playoff play, than the exact same thing can be said about Quinn, and even worse is that he couldnt even produce in the playoffs in juniors or AHL
May 26 at 10:30 a.m.
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Huh? The talk was only about playoffs, not regular season. Was pointing out that if the gripe with Marner is about his playoff play, than the exact same thing can be said about Quinn, and even worse is that he couldnt even produce in the playoffs in juniors or AHL


Quinn doesnt have nearly as many games as Marner so that isnt something you can actually claim though. We have over a decade of tape for Marner
May 26 at 10:35 a.m.
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Quinn doesnt have nearly as many games as Marner so that isnt something you can actually claim though. We have over a decade of tape for Marner


over a decade? That was just Marners 8th year in the league and is nearly a point per game in the playoffs. Marner is 5 years older than Quinn lol. I think you understand what Im saying and are just trying to come up with an argument against it, which is fine.
May 26 at 11:24 a.m.
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over a decade? That was just Marners 8th year in the league and is nearly a point per game in the playoffs. Marner is 5 years older than Quinn lol. I think you understand what Im saying and are just trying to come up with an argument against it, which is fine.


Including juniors. Im saying we dont have any idea what quinns going to be like in the playoffs, but we know exactly what Marner brings
May 26 at 11:26 a.m.
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Including juniors. Im saying we dont have any idea what quinns going to be like in the playoffs, but we know exactly what Marner brings


Including Juniors? Look at Marners junior stats in the playoffs lmao
May 26 at 12:36 p.m.
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Including juniors. Im saying we dont have any idea what quinns going to be like in the playoffs, but we know exactly what Marner brings


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Including Juniors? Look at Marners junior stats in the playoffs lmao


Why are Marner's junior stats relevant to any of this
May 26 at 12:39 p.m.
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Why are Marner's junior stats relevant to any of this


Agreed, I left Marners junior stats out of the original post and focused on his NHL playoff performance. Shibbal said we had a decade of knowing Mitch Marner under performed and included juniors, which as we all know is incredibly incorrect
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May 26 at 1:06 p.m.
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Why are Marner's junior stats relevant to any of this


That guy was talking about juniors
May 26 at 1:07 p.m.
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Agreed, I left Marners junior stats out of the original post and focused on his NHL playoff performance. Shibbal said we had a decade of knowing Mitch Marner under performed and included juniors, which as we all know is incredibly incorrect


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To add. While Mitch gets dogged for not showing up in the playoffs, he still produces in the playoffs. Historically (juniors and minors) Quinn doesn’t produce either, and those are levels he absolutely should be over a point per game in
May 26 at 1:25 p.m.
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That guy was talking about juniors


I was taking about Quinn’s junior playoff performance because that’s all he has to judge playoffs by, correct?


You thought Marner played in the NHL for more than 10 years and then pretended like you were talking about juniors as well to cover yourself lol
 
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