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Trading A Couple of 1sts Plus Other Smart Trades

Created by: KingExLeafs
Team: 2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 28, 2024
Published: May 28, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,350,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$5,000,000
4$4,500,000
3$2,500,000
5$3,500,000
3$2,500,000
2$950,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
Leafs get pick 29 and 58.
ANA
  1. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Ducks move up six spots to pick at 23.
2.
TOR
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (CHI)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Leafs trade picks 29 and 58 for 34 and 50.
CHI
  1. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (BOS)
3.
TOR
  1. Crouse, Lawson
  2. Lamoureux, Maveric
  3. Weber, Shea
  4. 2025 1st round pick (UTA)
  5. 2025 2nd round pick (TOR)
  6. 2026 2nd round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
Leafs pay Marner's signing bonus and pick up Weber's contract to be placed on LTIR. Marner extends at 11.6 x 8.
4.
TOR
  1. 2025 2nd round pick (BOS)
WSH
  1. Liljegren, Timothy [RFA Rights]
5.
TOR
  1. 2026 2nd round pick (SEA)
SEA
  1. Robertson, Nicholas [RFA Rights]
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2024
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2025
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2026
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21$87,700,000$80,891,667$0$0$6,808,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA
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$13,250,000$13,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$11,500,000$11,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,300,000$4,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LW, C
RFA
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$950,000$950,000
G
UFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 2

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May 28 at 7:34 p.m.
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Upgrade Carrier to Pesce for 1 mill more... Trade Crouse and re-sign Bert to a similar number and sign Domi to a 3.5...

An the Shea Weber isn't needed to have as the NHL pays for his contract, not Utah
May 28 at 7:41 p.m.
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Upgrade Carrier to Pesce for 1 mill more... Trade Crouse and re-sign Bert to a similar number and sign Domi to a 3.5...

An the Shea Weber isn't needed to have as the NHL pays for his contract, not Utah


I doubt Pesce will sign with the Leafs or any U.S. free agent for that matter. Some other team will overpay him.

Crouse is what the Leafs need, a big power forward who can score.

And I don't want Bertuzzi and Domi back, especially since they're asking for a long term contract at crazy money. No thanks.
May 28 at 7:47 p.m.
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Marner isn't worth 10.9m now, and probably not 11.6m in the future. Utah just keeps it's young assets, and spends it's cap better than Marner.
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May 28 at 7:50 p.m.
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Marner isn't worth 10.9m now, and probably not 11.6m in the future. Utah just keeps it's young assets, and spends it's cap better than Marner.


Marner is worth that in the regular season, and with the cap jumping multiple times in upcoming seasons it is by no means an awful overpay.
May 28 at 7:56 p.m.
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Marner is worth that in the regular season, and with the cap jumping multiple times in upcoming seasons it is by no means an awful overpay.


Currently Marner is 9th highest player in the league. Hard pressed to think he is the 9th best WINGER in the league. Again, why do Leaf fans think other teams are trading cheap assets for Marner when in this case Utah just keeps it's cheap assets and sign a just as good UFA as Marner.
Even by your post the Leafs have signed 5 UFAs...and didn't give up anything to obtain them. But somehow the Leafs get assets for an upcoming UFA in Marner
May 28 at 8:00 p.m.
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Currently Marner is 9th highest player in the league. Hard pressed to think he is the 9th best WINGER in the league. Again, why do Leaf fans think other teams are trading cheap assets for Marner when in this case Utah just keeps it's cheap assets and sign a just as good UFA as Marner.
Even by your post the Leafs have signed 5 UFAs...and didn't give up anything to obtain them. But somehow the Leafs get assets for an upcoming UFA in Marner


Marner and Reinhart are the best available wingers this offseason, one is available via free agency, the other via trade. A team like Utah with an ambitious new owner may want to land a big fish.
May 28 at 8:04 p.m.
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I doubt Pesce will sign with the Leafs or any U.S. free agent for that matter. Some other team will overpay him.

Crouse is what the Leafs need, a big power forward who can score.

And I don't want Bertuzzi and Domi back, especially since they're asking for a long term contract at crazy money. No thanks.


https://theleafsnation.com/news/report-maple-leafs-expected-to-pursue-brett-pesce-if-he-hits-ufa-market

Like Knies? They already have a younger version of Crouse...

The numbers reported by LeBrun? Those were random guesses...

Bert's going to get 4.5 to 5.25 and Domi 3-4... Which I'm fine paying for what those 2 bring
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May 28 at 8:27 p.m.
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https://theleafsnation.com/news/report-maple-leafs-expected-to-pursue-brett-pesce-if-he-hits-ufa-market

Like Knies? They already have a younger version of Crouse...

The numbers reported by LeBrun? Those were random guesses...

Bert's going to get 4.5 to 5.25 and Domi 3-4... Which I'm fine paying for what those 2 bring


Knies is great, but why not have two big scoring power forwards?

And I just find a lot of flaws in Bertuzzi and Domi. Bertuzzi can hardly skate. And Domi had 9 goals last year. You want to pay 4 million a year for the next five years for that? Plus they don't kill penalties. And they are just not big enough. If the Leafs are going to succeed playing Berube's North-South hockey then they need big wingers who can deliver crushing hits and be a menace along the boards.
May 28 at 8:37 p.m.
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Marner and Reinhart are the best available wingers this offseason, one is available via free agency, the other via trade. A team like Utah with an ambitious new owner may want to land a big fish.


Guntzel and Stamkos are two others for free..
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May 28 at 8:40 p.m.
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Guntzel and Stamkos are two others for free..


Stamkos is much older, and Guentzel doesn't have the 100 point ceiling that Marner has. Guentzel is a great goal scorer and playoff performer but Marner is a better playmaker and better defensively.
May 28 at 8:45 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Marner isn't worth 10.9m now, and probably not 11.6m in the future. Utah just keeps it's young assets, and spends it's cap better than Marner.


although i agree with your point the method to get there is flawed. You cant go by that just because when they sign contrracts is super important. Theres really good wingers on cheap deals that they signed 5 seasons ago
May 28 at 8:53 p.m.
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Stamkos is much older, and Guentzel doesn't have the 100 point ceiling that Marner has. Guentzel is a great goal scorer and playoff performer but Marner is a better playmaker and better defensively.


Sorry, I disagree, Guentzel is just as good defensively and almost matches Marner PPG.
If Marner is so superior why are so intent are trading him? Remember there are 190 potential UFA in summer of 2025. Teams aren't racing to trade these guys, but it seems like so many Leaf fans think they are entitled to UFA compensation.(yes one year away.
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May 28 at 8:58 p.m.
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although i agree with your point the method to get there is flawed. You cant go by that just because when they sign contrracts is super important. Theres really good wingers on cheap deals that they signed 5 seasons ago


Marner was overpaid five seasons ago by any standard. 2m per year. Point is Marner might be the just be the 9th BEST winger in the league, not entitled to 11m now. Do you really think some team would give up assets just to sign him to 11.6m contract starting in 25/26? Leafs sign UFAs without giving up assets to acquire them, but somehow so many Leaf fans think the Leafs deserve big compensation for Marner
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May 28 at 9:01 p.m.
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Sorry, I disagree, Guentzel is just as good defensively and almost matches Marner PPG.
If Marner is so superior why are so intent are trading him? Remember there are 190 potential UFA in summer of 2025. Teams aren't racing to trade these guys, but it seems like so many Leaf fans think they are entitled to UFA compensation.(yes one year away.


Leafs already are paying big contracts to two forwards in Matthews and Nylander long-term, so it makes no sense to hold onto Marner when they have other areas in the roster to fill. But a team like Utah can use a player of his calibre. And Marner will waive in a trade to get that 8th year which he won't be able to get if he walks to UFA next year.
May 28 at 9:02 p.m.
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Stamkos is much older, and Guentzel doesn't have the 100 point ceiling that Marner has. Guentzel is a great goal scorer and playoff performer but Marner is a better playmaker and better defensively.


And Guentz l is going to be about 2 million cheaper AAV.

Between Goal scoring, showing up in the playoffs, and leaving enough cap room for a good bottom 6 player as well as costing nothing to acquire, I'm taking Guentzel 8 days a week.
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May 28 at 9:12 p.m.
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Leafs already are paying big contracts to two forwards in Matthews and Nylander long-term, so it makes no sense to hold onto Marner when they have other areas in the roster to fill. But a team like Utah can use a player of his calibre. And Marner will waive in a trade to get that 8th year which he won't be able to get if he walks to UFA next year.


Well Marner and Tavares aren't long term Leafs. I'm surprised that Leafs did sign Nylander mid seasons especially to an eight year contract.
I'll agree with it might be best for the Leafs to trade Marner instead of keeping him as their "own UFA". Of course are "going for it" again in 24/25.
But the point is 99% of the Marner trades are so one sided in favour of the Leafs.
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May 28 at 9:55 p.m.
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And Guentz l is going to be about 2 million cheaper AAV.

Between Goal scoring, showing up in the playoffs, and leaving enough cap room for a good bottom 6 player as well as costing nothing to acquire, I'm taking Guentzel 8 days a week.


Yes, but there are 32 teams, some with lots of cap space and big ambitions, and adding a player like Marner after missing out on Guentzel and Reinhart is a good compensation prize.
May 28 at 10:16 p.m.
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Well Marner and Tavares aren't long term Leafs. I'm surprised that Leafs did sign Nylander mid seasons especially to an eight year contract.
I'll agree with it might be best for the Leafs to trade Marner instead of keeping him as their "own UFA". Of course are "going for it" again in 24/25.
But the point is 99% of the Marner trades are so one sided in favour of the Leafs.


Marner is a 100 point winger in his prime. The Leafs aren't just going to give him away for free.
May 28 at 11:02 p.m.
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Marner is a 100 point winger in his prime. The Leafs aren't just going to give him away for free.


Marner has never been a 100 point winger. And likely he won't be close to his points playing without Matthews, Nylander and Tavares on the leagues top 3 PP.
OK, the Leafs don't have to give heim away......just like the other 190 upcoming UFAs in July 2025, but there is NO reason for teams to pay for so much for Marner especially when Marner doesn't even play to his current contract.
May 28 at 11:07 p.m.
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Marner has never been a 100 point winger. And likely he won't be close to his points playing without Matthews, Nylander and Tavares on the leagues top 3 PP.
OK, the Leafs don't have to give heim away......just like the other 190 upcoming UFAs in July 2025, but there is NO reason for teams to pay for so much for Marner especially when Marner doesn't even play to his current contract.


100 point Selke nominated wingers aged 27 and under aren't available via trades or free agency very often, if at all. Teams have all the reason in the world to trade for him. And Marner does play up to his current contract in the regular season.
May 28 at 11:14 p.m.
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100 point Selke nominated wingers aged 27 and under aren't available via trades or free agency very often, if at all. Teams have all the reason in the world to trade for him. And Marner does play up to his current contract in the regular season.


Sorry, he's the 9th highest paid player in the league. He's may not even the 9th best WINGER in the league. In what world is worth his contract?
Teams don't have much reason to trade for him. Wouldn't you be disappointed in the Leafs made this trade for similar winger, giving up so much.
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May 28 at 11:35 p.m.
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Sorry, he's the 9th highest paid player in the league. He's may not even the 9th best WINGER in the league. In what world is worth his contract?
Teams don't have much reason to trade for him. Wouldn't you be disappointed in the Leafs made this trade for similar winger, giving up so much.


A roster player, a late 1st round draft prospect, a 1st, and a couple of 2nds is not that hefty a price to pay for an elite player still in his prime. And with the cap going up, 11 million will not look like a lot in 2027. Guys like Draisaitl and McDavid will be making 14 million plus on their next deals.
May 29 at 1:06 a.m.
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A roster player, a late 1st round draft prospect, a 1st, and a couple of 2nds is not that hefty a price to pay for an elite player still in his prime.

Are you high? That is a massive overpayment.
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May 29 at 8:37 a.m.
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Knies is great, but why not have two big scoring power forwards?

And I just find a lot of flaws in Bertuzzi and Domi. Bertuzzi can hardly skate. And Domi had 9 goals last year. You want to pay 4 million a year for the next five years for that? Plus they don't kill penalties. And they are just not big enough. If the Leafs are going to succeed playing Berube's North-South hockey then they need big wingers who can deliver crushing hits and be a menace along the boards.


Because Cruses a lot older... And Bert does his job but better...

Bert's a heart and soul player... You saw him all of last year; flopping around to block shots, always first on the puck, battling in front, etc. I would love to pay Bert and Domi's a playmaker, not a goal scorer...

They'll both do fantastic in Berube's system and the Leafs would be fools not to keep either one
May 29 at 8:59 a.m.
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Are you high? That is a massive overpayment.


Giroux was traded to Florida for a 1st and Tippett at the deadline 2 years ago and he was an aging rental.

Trading a couple of 1sts, 2 2nds, along with a roster player for a 27 year old 100 point player who comes with an extension is an underpayment.
 
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