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Team: 2024-25 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: May 29, 2024
Published: May 29, 2024
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  2. 2024 1st round pick (WSH)
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  2. 2024 2nd round pick (MIN)
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May 29 at 10:36 a.m.
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The difference between Caufield and Boldy is a lot less than 8 spots in the draft and then having MTL add another pick that Minnesota moves up from makes it even worse
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The difference between Caufield and Boldy is a lot less than 8 spots in the draft and then having MTL add another pick that Minnesota moves up from makes it even worse


Disagree!
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May 29 at 10:41 a.m.
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As a Caps fan I'd do it.
May 29 at 10:57 a.m.
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Disagree!


And that's a fine opinion to have
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May 29 at 11:05 a.m.
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There's probably enough casinos in Minnesota to get Kane to waive his NMC.
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May 29 at 12:27 p.m.
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I sincerely don't see why MTL would move back and give up Caufiled, then send a third for a fourth for a guy who basically put up the same points in a few less games? I mean Boldy is a great player, but to add Caufield to the 5th overall and move back 8 spots would not be worth it.

To move Boldy to Habs I think it would most likely be another player outside of Caufield, Slaf, Guhle, Reinbacher, Suzuki, and Engström if they want the 5th overall...

To get the 5th vs 8th, I think Habs could potentially put up Barron, Mailloux, Harris, Beck or Mesar of the Prospect pool, plus either Anderson or Armia (Which MIN would turn down), or Dach (But that's a big gamble since I don't know if Hugues still wants to gamble on him with the medical issues he faced and if MIN would want him).

Maybe something like:
Boldy+MIN 1st VS Mailloux, Beck+HABS 1st+CAL 2025 1st
OR
Boldy+MIN 1st VS Mailloux, Beck+HABS 1st+AVS's 2024 2nd

I just don't see MTL moving out of the Caufield train for a player who puts up the same amounts of points at this time. Even if he's bigger.
May 29 at 1:42 p.m.
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I sincerely don't see why MTL would move back and give up Caufiled, then send a third for a fourth for a guy who basically put up the same points in a few less games? I mean Boldy is a great player, but to add Caufield to the 5th overall and move back 8 spots would not be worth it.

To move Boldy to Habs I think it would most likely be another player outside of Caufield, Slaf, Guhle, Reinbacher, Suzuki, and Engström if they want the 5th overall...

To get the 5th vs 8th, I think Habs could potentially put up Barron, Mailloux, Harris, Beck or Mesar of the Prospect pool, plus either Anderson or Armia (Which MIN would turn down), or Dach (But that's a big gamble since I don't know if Hugues still wants to gamble on him with the medical issues he faced and if MIN would want him).

Maybe something like:
Boldy+MIN 1st VS Mailloux, Beck+HABS 1st+CAL 2025 1st
OR
Boldy+MIN 1st VS Mailloux, Beck+HABS 1st+AVS's 2024 2nd

I just don't see MTL moving out of the Caufield train for a player who puts up the same amounts of points at this time. Even if he's bigger.


You make great points, but Boldy is bigger, a better all around player, and on a better contract. I asked for Guhle in an earlier trade and got a lot of…resistance to it from Habs fans so I didn’t use him here, but I would consider Boldy and the 13th for Guhle and the 5th (with tweaks, as needed).

What is your opinion of this: Boldy and the 13th for Guhle and the 5th, regardless of who is available?
May 29 at 2:14 p.m.
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You make great points, but Boldy is bigger, a better all around player, and on a better contract. I asked for Guhle in an earlier trade and got a lot of…resistance to it from Habs fans so I didn’t use him here, but I would consider Boldy and the 13th for Guhle and the 5th (with tweaks, as needed).

What is your opinion of this: Boldy and the 13th for Guhle and the 5th, regardless of who is available?


LOL! I can see why you got grief, lots of peeps here just go off and use sarcastic remarks or insults. I think there are players right now that Hugues seems to want to keep and ride it out. Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Guhle, Reinbacher.. All of these seem to be the base level they want to build on or around. Engström just got signed, so I think they'll keep him to evaluate him first.

So you kind of fall under the:
Prospects - Mailloux, Struble, Harris, Barron, Norlinder (to add for show and not of any real value, mostly a fresh start), Beck, Mesar, Roy, Kidney and Struble.
NHLers - Anderson (Could be a better fit under the MIN style of play), Dvorak (50% retention), Armia, Evans, Gally (Min would wonder why they'd move on that). Kovacevic..

I even wonder if Hugues would ever consider Dach or Newhook for moving down 8 spots to get Boldy.. I would.

Problem here is that HABS want a top level forward, Boldy is just that, but the net worth of moving down and giving up one of their most prized players is something that I feel like they won't do. They traded Romanov for the 13th, then moved it to acquired Dach which to this day hasn't played well in their favor. We keep hearing how Dach is one hell of a player Habs have been waiting for, but that's the point, we've also been waiting for him to play more than 60 games a season, and that 58 games, while there was hype, I don't see it that much with his total contribution of 38 pts. I really hope he's as good as they think he is to got rid of Romanov who put up a great +13 and +23 in his last two with the NYI.

I think they are willing to trade both WIN and CAL's picks, maybe even their 2025 1st for him, but a top 5 here + one of those mentioned above when they have one of three players they want and may end up with in this draft is something they may not want to pass up on, even for Boldy. I think you have to see it as leaving a top 5 player you want, plus a top assets, regardless of being Guhle, Reinbacher, Caufield, Suzuki, etc.. for one player.

They would rather have Boldy play with Suzuki or Dach, with Caufield or Newhook with the blue line of Reinbacher, Guhle, Matheson, Savard (maybe), Xhekaj and some that wouldn't be included in the package.
May 29 at 3:56 p.m.
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Quoting: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame
LOL! I can see why you got grief, lots of peeps here just go off and use sarcastic remarks or insults. I think there are players right now that Hugues seems to want to keep and ride it out. Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Guhle, Reinbacher.. All of these seem to be the base level they want to build on or around. Engström just got signed, so I think they'll keep him to evaluate him first.

So you kind of fall under the:
Prospects - Mailloux, Struble, Harris, Barron, Norlinder (to add for show and not of any real value, mostly a fresh start), Beck, Mesar, Roy, Kidney and Struble.
NHLers - Anderson (Could be a better fit under the MIN style of play), Dvorak (50% retention), Armia, Evans, Gally (Min would wonder why they'd move on that). Kovacevic..

I even wonder if Hugues would ever consider Dach or Newhook for moving down 8 spots to get Boldy.. I would.

Problem here is that HABS want a top level forward, Boldy is just that, but the net worth of moving down and giving up one of their most prized players is something that I feel like they won't do. They traded Romanov for the 13th, then moved it to acquired Dach which to this day hasn't played well in their favor. We keep hearing how Dach is one hell of a player Habs have been waiting for, but that's the point, we've also been waiting for him to play more than 60 games a season, and that 58 games, while there was hype, I don't see it that much with his total contribution of 38 pts. I really hope he's as good as they think he is to got rid of Romanov who put up a great +13 and +23 in his last two with the NYI.

I think they are willing to trade both WIN and CAL's picks, maybe even their 2025 1st for him, but a top 5 here + one of those mentioned above when they have one of three players they want and may end up with in this draft is something they may not want to pass up on, even for Boldy. I think you have to see it as leaving a top 5 player you want, plus a top assets, regardless of being Guhle, Reinbacher, Caufield, Suzuki, etc.. for one player.

They would rather have Boldy play with Suzuki or Dach, with Caufield or Newhook with the blue line of Reinbacher, Guhle, Matheson, Savard (maybe), Xhekaj and some that wouldn't be included in the package.


I have absolutely no interest in any of the prospects you would consider giving up…at least not in a trade for Boldy. Maybe there isn’t a trade to be made here…

Serious question: how good is Guhle anyway? What do you consider his floor and ceiling?
May 29 at 4:10 p.m.
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Edited May 29 at 4:16 p.m.
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You make great points, but Boldy is bigger, a better all around player, and on a better contract. I asked for Guhle in an earlier trade and got a lot of…resistance to it from Habs fans so I didn’t use him here, but I would consider Boldy and the 13th for Guhle and the 5th (with tweaks, as needed).

What is your opinion of this: Boldy and the 13th for Guhle and the 5th, regardless of who is available?


I'd personally consider that deal.... Habs could still possibly land an Eiserman or a Catton at 13th overall. Habs commit to keeping Matheson at that point too. Yup, works for me. Boldy would be worth the risk imo.


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Serious question: how good is Guhle anyway? What do you consider his floor and ceiling?


Jacob Slavin 2.0. Floor is a bit tougher, He's already a guaranteed Top 4 guy, it's more just trying to solidify himself as a top pairing Dman now.
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May 29 at 4:27 p.m.
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The difference between Caufield and Boldy is a lot less than 8 spots in the draft and then having MTL add another pick that Minnesota moves up from makes it even worse


Boldy is substantially better at almost everything hockey related, while not being a chump when it comes to defensive responsibilities.
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May 29 at 5:52 p.m.
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I sincerely don't see why MTL would move back and give up Caufiled, then send a third for a fourth for a guy who basically put up the same points in a few less games? I mean Boldy is a great player, but to add Caufield to the 5th overall and move back 8 spots would not be worth it.

To move Boldy to Habs I think it would most likely be another player outside of Caufield, Slaf, Guhle, Reinbacher, Suzuki, and Engström if they want the 5th overall...

To get the 5th vs 8th, I think Habs could potentially put up Barron, Mailloux, Harris, Beck or Mesar of the Prospect pool, plus either Anderson or Armia (Which MIN would turn down), or Dach (But that's a big gamble since I don't know if Hugues still wants to gamble on him with the medical issues he faced and if MIN would want him).

Maybe something like:
Boldy+MIN 1st VS Mailloux, Beck+HABS 1st+CAL 2025 1st
OR
Boldy+MIN 1st VS Mailloux, Beck+HABS 1st+AVS's 2024 2nd

I just don't see MTL moving out of the Caufield train for a player who puts up the same amounts of points at this time. Even if he's bigger.


I don’t see any way the Wild would consider anything around Caufield for Boldy. We are tiny enough as it is.

If I was a GM and you called asking for Boldy and then listed Caufield (lol), Slafkovsky, Guhle (lol), Reinbacher (lol), Suzuki, and Engstrom (lmfao) as untouchable pieces, you are getting blocked.

*Edit: just realized you said on top of the 5th overall pick. So that at least makes a little more sense to me. I wouldn’t target the 5th overall pick though. The Wild need scoring help on top of Boldy. Not to detract from the already mediocre offense.

Both of your offers are a “no, and don’t call again.” The difference between 5 and 13 in this draft is less than the difference between Boldy and Caufield. Caufield is a one dimensional winger that isn’t good at anything other than offense, and he is still worse than Boldy at it. The Wild could literally just take a bigger Caufield at 13 in Cole Eiserman and not trade their 1st line player locked in at a lower rate than Caufield.
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I don’t see any way the Wild would consider anything around Caufield for Boldy. We are tiny enough as it is.

If I was a GM and you called asking for Boldy and then listed Caufield (lol), Slafkovsky, Guhle (lol), Reinbacher (lol), Suzuki, and Engstrom (lmfao) as untouchable pieces, you are getting blocked.

*Edit: just realized you said on top of the 5th overall pick. So that at least makes a little more sense to me. I wouldn’t target the 5th overall pick though. The Wild need scoring help on top of Boldy. Not to detract from the already mediocre offense.

Both of your offers are a “no, and don’t call again.” The difference between 5 and 13 in this draft is less than the difference between Boldy and Caufield. Caufield is a one dimensional winger that isn’t good at anything other than offense, and he is still worse than Boldy at it. The Wild could literally just take a bigger Caufield at 13 in Cole Eiserman and not trade their 1st line player locked in at a lower rate than Caufield.


Just say you haven't watched Caufield play and save everyone the time lol
May 30 at 2:33 p.m.
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I have absolutely no interest in any of the prospects you would consider giving up…at least not in a trade for Boldy. Maybe there isn’t a trade to be made here…

Serious question: how good is Guhle anyway? What do you consider his floor and ceiling?


Exactly, don't think there would be something there. Don't even know why MIN would want to move him out in the first place either.

As for Guhle, experts say he's about to become the next TOP 2 defensive player of the year, and to be fair, he's only 22 and showed good signs of a top defenseman at his age. He's 6'.3" 200+ pounds so while he looks like a 10 year old, it seems he's built for the job.

Defensemen come to maturity around 27 years old. So my personal view on Guhle is that he's way ahead of where he should be. Will he be the next Makar, no.. Will he be the next Roman Josi, only time will tell. But for now and just based on what experts say, I think he'll most likely become a serious TOP 2 for the Habs with Reinbacher.

I just think it's too soon for anyone to properly evaluate his ceiling right now, 22 is young for a majority of defensemen. Only actual scouts would be able to answer that with a 50% chance of being wrong.. For us regular folks who see games on the TV and follow the puck instead of the player in the back, we're more than likely going to get it wrong 70% of the time if we're all honest about our reading player abilities.

Buddy of mine is Eric Landry, he scouted for the Junior leagues years ago before he jumped into coaching, and he could tell you if the guy who lost the puck three time in a game actually has good hands, but was unlucky on a bounce, while most of us saw a guy who lost the puck three times. It's very hard to determine.
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Edmonton has no interest in that offer whatsoever.
May 30 at 2:50 p.m.
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Just say you haven't watched Caufield play and save everyone the time lol


Well, let's be fair here. Caulfield is one hell of a player for us, but I do see his point about is lack of pushing and playing the corners at this stage of his career vs Boldy. He's not as big and will gather that experience down the line, but right now, Caulfield is not that much off of being unidimensional player at this point in time.

I have confidence he'll gather that experience from St-Louis' coaching but .. While I wouldn't do a trade for Boldy and add a pick on top of that, Boldy does things a bit better defensively because of his size.

BOLDY NHL REGULAR GAMES ONLY STATS
SEASON GP G A P +/- PIM
2021-22 47 15 24 39 17 10 |
2022-23 81 31 32 63 1 39 |
2023-24 75 29 40 69 5 48

CAUFEILD NHL REGULAR GAMES ONLY STATS
SEASON GP G A P +/- PIM
2020-21 10 4 1 5 -1 2 |
2021-22 67 23 20 43 -24 10 |
2022-23 46 26 10 36 -10 2 |
2023-24 82 28 37 65 -4 16 |

While points are relatively in the same ball parks, Boldy is a contant + player and Caufield is in the - ..
You can blame that on teams being different, but Caufield's number show he needs to get better defensively at some point.
May 30 at 2:53 p.m.
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I don’t see any way the Wild would consider anything around Caufield for Boldy. We are tiny enough as it is.

If I was a GM and you called asking for Boldy and then listed Caufield (lol), Slafkovsky, Guhle (lol), Reinbacher (lol), Suzuki, and Engstrom (lmfao) as untouchable pieces, you are getting blocked.

*Edit: just realized you said on top of the 5th overall pick. So that at least makes a little more sense to me. I wouldn’t target the 5th overall pick though. The Wild need scoring help on top of Boldy. Not to detract from the already mediocre offense.

Both of your offers are a “no, and don’t call again.” The difference between 5 and 13 in this draft is less than the difference between Boldy and Caufield. Caufield is a one dimensional winger that isn’t good at anything other than offense, and he is still worse than Boldy at it. The Wild could literally just take a bigger Caufield at 13 in Cole Eiserman and not trade their 1st line player locked in at a lower rate than Caufield.


But I never said anything about Caufield. It's the thread starter that indicated this. I said that I'd be surprised if Hugues pulled Caufield in a trade considering he's a development player at this point. Can't be blaming me for that ! LOL!
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Well, let's be fair here. Caulfield is one hell of a player for us, but I do see his point about is lack of pushing and playing the corners at this stage of his career vs Boldy. He's not as big and will gather that experience down the line, but right now, Caulfield is not that much off of being unidimensional player at this point in time.

I have confidence he'll gather that experience from St-Louis' coaching but .. While I wouldn't do a trade for Boldy and add a pick on top of that, Boldy does things a bit better defensively because of his size.

BOLDY NHL REGULAR GAMES ONLY STATS
SEASON GP G A P +/- PIM
2021-22 47 15 24 39 17 10 |
2022-23 81 31 32 63 1 39 |
2023-24 75 29 40 69 5 48

CAUFEILD NHL REGULAR GAMES ONLY STATS
SEASON GP G A P +/- PIM
2020-21 10 4 1 5 -1 2 |
2021-22 67 23 20 43 -24 10 |
2022-23 46 26 10 36 -10 2 |
2023-24 82 28 37 65 -4 16 |

While points are relatively in the same ball parks, Boldy is a contant + player and Caufield is in the - ..
You can blame that on teams being different, but Caufield's number show he needs to get better defensively at some point.


You've seen that improvement already if you watched Caufield this year. From the start of the year to the end it was noticable in the defensive end. He wasn't cheating anymore, he was using his body better, breaking out better and was better in coverage. Those numbers won't show until he does it over the course of a full year but the eye test was there throughout the year. He will never be a great defensive player but I expect to see a more consistent effort in the defensive zone next year
May 30 at 3:06 p.m.
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You've seen that improvement already if you watched Caufield this year. From the start of the year to the end it was noticable in the defensive end. He wasn't cheating anymore, he was using his body better, breaking out better and was better in coverage. Those numbers won't show until he does it over the course of a full year but the eye test was there throughout the year. He will never be a great defensive player but I expect to see a more consistent effort in the defensive zone next year


Yeah, not going against what you're saying, he did improve lots this year, but he still has a way to go for his play balances itself out to more respectful numbers. I was just saying that at this point Boldy is better at it now. Who know what will come down the line, hopefully Caufield can become HABS future St-Louis..
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