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The Horse Before the Cart

Created by: MNBassman
Team: 2024-25 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 1, 2024
Published: Jun. 1, 2024
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IF the Wild aren’t 100% confident in resigning Kaprizov, and GM Bill Guerin doesn’t let his ego get in the way (see Doug Riseborough/Marion Gabrik) in this process, they should look at something like this…
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
2$800,000
Trades
1.
2.
MIN
  1. 2024 1st round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Gustavsson, Filip
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (MIN)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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Logo of the TOR
Logo of the MIN
2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,700,000$83,306,921$425,000$3,700,000$4,393,079
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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$886,667$886,667 (Performance Bonus$475,000$475K)
LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$2,100,000$2,100,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$775,000$775,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$11,000,000$11,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 8
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$2,450,000$2,450,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
LD/RD
RFA

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Jun. 1 at 9:59 a.m.
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You can end the negotiation.

No
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Jun. 1 at 10:04 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
You can end the negotiation.

No


This offer would definitely get Buffalo’s attention…whether you think so or not.
Jun. 1 at 10:13 a.m.
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This offer would definitely get Buffalo’s attention…whether you think so or not.


Not good attention
Jun. 1 at 10:22 a.m.
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Quoting: MNBassman
This offer would definitely get Buffalo’s attention…whether you think so or not.

And Skinner ends the conversation because he won’t waive his no trade clause for Minnesota. Also, if Minnesota can’t convince Kaprizov to sign, why would you think Buffalo would want to pay him $10 million?
Jun. 1 at 10:24 a.m.
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Quoting: MNBassman
This offer would definitely get Buffalo’s attention…whether you think so or not.


No it wouldn't

Dahlin is locked up for 8 years and will be our captain.

Kaprizov only for 2 and then huge money at 30 years old.

Zuccarello is old and brodin is old
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Jun. 1 at 10:34 a.m.
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If Habs offered 5th, what else would we need to add?
Jun. 1 at 10:35 a.m.
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Doesn't make a lot of sense for Buffalo.

Skinner had an off year and still potted 25 goals. Although $9M is very high for that type of production, they're not going to move significant assets to move his contract.

And, probably most importantly, Skinner has a NMC and is where he wants to be.
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Jun. 1 at 10:37 a.m.
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It’s unhealthy to be this drunk this early.
Jun. 1 at 10:39 a.m.
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The Sabres don't consider this. Probably have better luck swapping dahlin for Byram and removing the poison pill that is jeff Skinner. I don't see the Sabres going crazy to upgrade their wings. I would think a power forward for the middle 6 would make more sense for several reasons.
Jun. 1 at 10:43 a.m.
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The Wild are not trading Kaprizov
Jun. 1 at 10:49 a.m.
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Zucc is reaching his twilight and Kaprizov would probably not sign long term in Buffalo, so they say no.

I really don’t think the Wild would want to do this either. Kaprizov >>> Skinner and is the engine of the team, he just needs one more dynamic forward with him before his contract is up and he will re-sign.
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Jun. 1 at 10:49 a.m.
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Sub 0.900 goalies don't get 1st round picks. Even with a 2nd going back.

Goalies are voodoo. Ain't going anywhere near that price.
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Jun. 1 at 11:00 a.m.
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If Habs offered 5th, what else would we need to add?


Suzuki and/or Guhle for starters
Jun. 1 at 11:04 a.m.
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Suzuki and/or Guhle for starters


Yeah that is not happening, you aren't getting 5th + Suzuki + Guhle for Kaprizov. Maybe you can argue 5th + Reinbacher but even then the Habs would likely just say forget it since the prospect at 5th could be Demidov and the difference between Demidov's ceiling and Kaprizov is not another high 1st
Jun. 1 at 11:08 a.m.
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Yeah that is not happening, you aren't getting 5th + Suzuki + Guhle for Kaprizov. Maybe you can argue 5th + Reinbacher but even then the Habs would likely just say forget it since the prospect at 5th could be Demidov and the difference between Demidov's ceiling and Kaprizov is not another high 1st
Jun. 1 at 11:17 a.m.
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Quoting: MNBassman
This offer would definitely get Buffalo’s attention…whether you think so or not.


Yup the riots in the streets of Buffalo would get people's attention if the Sabres traded Dahlin. You are certainly correct about that.
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Jun. 1 at 11:26 a.m.
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Yeah that is not happening, you aren't getting 5th + Suzuki + Guhle for Kaprizov. Maybe you can argue 5th + Reinbacher but even then the Habs would likely just say forget it since the prospect at 5th could be Demidov and the difference between Demidov's ceiling and Kaprizov is not another high 1st


Few things:

1. Kaprizov for 5th+Reinbacher is not close. Kaprizov takes over games and is probably a top 3 winger in the game.

2. Demidov will not be there at 5… you’re looking at Dickinson/Buium/Parekh/Lindstrom/Silayev/etc. Which makes the 5th+Reinbacher offer just that much worse. It’s not like 2023 where Michkov or Leonard will be there. This draft is underwhelming.

3. Even if Demidov is there, using his ceiling is not a great argument. Most players don’t reach their projected ceiling (hence why it’s called their ceiling). Demidov will be lucky if he is even close to the level of player Kaprizov is.
Jun. 1 at 1:04 p.m.
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