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Trade values

Created by: Socal_King
Team: 2024-25 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 2, 2024
Published: Jun. 2, 2024
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Looking at prices of players. Looking to build around the core of Byfield, Clarke and Portillo. Also, what to keep Anderson, but if he needs to be moved to get one or more of these guys than he could be moved. I understand that people will want/need Byfield or Clarke in the deals but they aren't for sale as they are the building blocks for the future. I want to see outside of those two that people would be willing to offer.
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    28$87,700,000$109,067,245$1,850,000$0-$21,367,245
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    RW, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    $4,200,000$4,200,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
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    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
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    $875,000$875,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
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    $8,205,714$8,205,714
    LW
    UFA - 4
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $2,665,000$2,665,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Utah Hockey Club
    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $5,875,000$5,875,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    $4,125,000$4,125,000
    LD
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
    $766,667$766,667
    G
    UFA - 1
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    $2,294,150$2,294,150
    LD
    RFA - 1
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    G
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,125,000$1,125,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $4,285,714$4,285,714
    LD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $3,850,000$3,850,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $775,000$775,000
    LD
    UFA - 2

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    Jun. 2 at 10:50 p.m.
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    I don't even know Bradys value lol. What other giant dude is putting up 30+ goals a season, leading their team in hits, goals, shots and PIM (Not a good thing but funny) lol.
    Jun. 2 at 10:51 p.m.
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    Tkachuk is not for sale. Never has been. It was completely made up.
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    Jun. 2 at 10:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: sens65
    Tkachuk is not for sale. Never has been. It was completely made up.


    I'm not saying he is/was. I'm asking if hypothetically if he was than what is the value. That's what this site is for!

    I know he's not available and shouldn't move ever unless he asks for out. I'm just looking at what fans would need to move him. (Without Byfield or Clarke)
    Jun. 2 at 10:57 p.m.
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    Samberg is worth probably a 2nd-3rd rounder but won’t be made available
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    Jun. 2 at 11:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: Socal_King
    I'm not saying he is/was. I'm asking if hypothetically if he was than what is the value. That's what this site is for!

    I know he's not available and shouldn't move ever unless he asks for out. I'm just looking at what fans would need to move him. (Without Byfield or Clarke)


    I mean, whats Matthews worth? Cale Makar? Leon Draisaitl?

    Sure, Tkachuk is not as good as those players but its the same equation.
    Jun. 2 at 11:14 p.m.
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    I mean, whats Matthews worth? Cale Makar? Leon Draisaitl?

    Sure, Tkachuk is not as good as those players but its the same equation.


    It happens here all the time! I'm asking value to see what Ottawa fans think, so I can make different armchair GM teams for the Kings to see if a couple of trades makes the Kings better. Like it's not real! The trade isn't going to be completed by the current team GMs. I'm just trying to see the value.

    I didn't ask for those guys values because the don't fit what I'm trying to build realistically. I don't care about the Matthews, Makar, Draisaitl, McDavid's.
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    Jun. 2 at 11:17 p.m.
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    It happens here all the time! I'm asking value to see what Ottawa fans think, so I can make different armchair GM teams for the Kings to see if a couple of trades makes the Kings better. Like it's not real! The trade isn't going to be completed by the current team GMs. I'm just trying to see the value.

    I didn't ask for those guys values because the don't fit what I'm trying to build realistically. I don't care about the Matthews, Makar, Draisaitl, McDavid's.


    Fair enough.

    A tkachuk trade would need to contain assets to make the Sens a better team right now AND include something for the future.

    So to be blunt I don't think its possible to make any sort of Tkachuk trade that makes sense without it including either Byfield or Clarke.
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    Jun. 2 at 11:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: sens65
    Fair enough.

    A tkachuk trade would need to contain assets to make the Sens a better team right now AND include something for the future.

    So to be blunt I don't think its possible to make any sort of Tkachuk trade that makes sense without it including either Byfield or Clarke.


    Even a Kempe/Fiala + Spence + Turcotte/Thomas/Pinelli +1st + 1st wouldn't even get you to be like maybe. There has to be some sort of combination that just blows a team away they just have to take it.

    I know it would take one of them but there's nothing you could think could work within reason. I'm not talking like Kempe+Fiala+10x 1sts
    Jun. 2 at 11:27 p.m.
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    for Tkachuk, you really answered your question in the description when you talked about teams wanting byfield, but him not being for sale. think about how teams would have to give up A LOT to pry him away, because he’s not for sale in the first place. same deal with Ottawa. if byfield is off the table, I don’t think LA has the assets to get Tkachuk. only way to get a player whose team doesn’t want to give him up is by offering somebody you don’t want to give up either
    Jun. 2 at 11:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: emoprettyboy
    for Tkachuk, you really answered your question in the description when you talked about teams wanting byfield, but him not being for sale. think about how teams would have to give up A LOT to pry him away, because he’s not for sale in the first place. same deal with Ottawa. if byfield is off the table, I don’t think LA has the assets to get Tkachuk


    No I'd move Byfield and Clarke for certain people so I know they are on the table. It would be hard to move them but I could find deals. The process here is to find players to play with them. But it seems like there is zero things that can make people open their minds. Like Ottawa wouldn't ask for anything from LA even Kempe+Spence +Danault+10x 1st round picks. Like it's ridiculous that people couldn't come up with anything other than well if Byfield and Clarke aren't available than Tkachuk is not moving. Like there has to be something. I've watched an NFL team trade their whole draft for 1 player. I've seen Gretzky moved but not Brady ****ing Tkachuk.
    Jun. 2 at 11:42 p.m.
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    No I'd move Byfield and Clarke for certain people so I know they are on the table. It would be hard to move them buy I could find deals. The process here is to find players to play with them. But it seems like there is zero things that can make pull open their minds. Like Ottawa would ask for anything from LA even Kempe+Spence +Danault+10x 1st round picks. Like it's ridiculous that people couldn't come up with anything other than well if Byfield and Clarke aren't available than Tkachuk is not moving. Like there has to be something. I've watched an NFL team trade their whole draft for 1 player. I've seen Gretzky moved but not Brady ****ing Tkachuk.


    thing is, if the Sens were to trade Tkachuk, they really need to be able to sell how it could potentially be for the better if the team in the very short term. only way that works is trading top talent for top talent. Weber for Subban type stuff.

    when I say that the Kings don’t have the assets outside of Byfield and Clarke, it’s more along the lines of there not being much of a trade that’s reasonable for both sides if it doesn’t include those two players. as you say, yeah, sure. Fiala and Danault and Kempe and LA’s 1sts for the next 5 years would get Brady Tkachuk. but LA can’t do that, it’s ridiculous.

    teams can’t tear down the rest of their team just to trade for brady tkachuk, and the sens can’t accept anything less than incredibly high value and quality. only way those two things match up is if a brady trade is for these types of guys. Byfield, Nemec, Laf, etc
    Jun. 3 at 12:21 a.m.
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    Quoting: emoprettyboy
    thing is, if the Sens were to trade Tkachuk, they really need to be able to sell how it could potentially be for the better if the team in the very short term. only way that works is trading top talent for top talent. Weber for Subban type stuff.

    when I say that the Kings don’t have the assets outside of Byfield and Clarke, it’s more along the lines of there not being much of a trade that’s reasonable for both sides if it doesn’t include those two players. as you say, yeah, sure. Fiala and Danault and Kempe and LA’s 1sts for the next 5 years would get Brady Tkachuk. but LA can’t do that, it’s ridiculous.

    teams can’t tear down the rest of their team just to trade for brady tkachuk, and the sens can’t accept anything less than incredibly high value and quality. only way those two things match up is if a brady trade is for these types of guys. Byfield, Nemec, Laf, etc


    I get it. Ottawa fans can't make a realistic trade without Byfield or Clarke in this so called hypothetical trade situation on this fake gm site. I guess I'll have to make a trade for him in NHL24 and put that in here. I'm utterly shocked that people can't make any deals without Byfield and Clarke in it. I mean I get what you all are saying but just wow.

    Edit: the rant at the end was not aimed at you. Just the lack of open minds to a deal within the terms.
     
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