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whats the price to move up

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Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 6, 2024
Published: Jun. 6, 2024
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MTL
  1. 2024 1st round pick (ANA)
ANA
    what's the price to move from 5 to 3 ?
    slaf, suzuki , Caufield, Dach, Hutson, Reinbacher are not available
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    MTL
    1. 2024 1st round pick (CHI)
    CHI
      what's the price to move from 5 to 2 ?
      slaf, suzuki , Caufield, Dach, Hutson, Reinbacher are not available
      3.
      MTL
      1. 2024 1st round pick (CBJ)
      CBJ
        what's the price to move from 5 to 4 ?
        slaf, suzuki , Caufield, Dach, Hutson, Reinbacher are not available
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        Jun. 6 at 4:48 p.m.
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        you can't just ask to move up and then make your all your valuable players unavailable, moving up to 2nd for example costs a ton
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        Jun. 6 at 4:52 p.m.
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        I don't think you could acquire #2 without giving up at least one of those players. In the past two years, the Hawks have made five selections in each of the first three rounds of the draft. The next three years, they've got five 1sts, seven 2nds, and four 3rd round picks. The Hawks don't need quantity; they need quality. If you won't give up any of your best young players or prospects then it would take an extremely lopsided offer-- along the lines of #5, both of your 2025 1st round picks, and a 2026 2nd-- to get #2.
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        Jun. 6 at 4:53 p.m.
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        Edited Jun. 6 at 5:23 p.m.
        This Hawks fan would start listening to #5 + #26 + Joshua Roy + Barron and a future 2nd for #2 That is quite an overpay, but that is the extent of what it would take to get me off #2 because at 5 you likely miss on both Demidov & Levshunov and are likely left with the 3rd best F or 2 or 3 best D. At 5 you still get a really good prospect who in the end may end up better than 2, 3, or 4 given the diversity of opinoins on guys after Celebrini. I really like Roy as a potential fit with Bedard...physical/gritty game and a goal scorer. Barron fills the hole of NHL ready RHD while we wait on Rinzel and whoever we take this draft to develop. I think Barron is more good bottom pairing guy than a middle pair guy at this point, but still fills a hole going forward. 26 and another 2nd give us ammo to add to #18 to move up and go get a guy we like.
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        Jun. 6 at 4:58 p.m.
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        I think Columbus is your best bet, since we'd be looking to take BPA and one of Lindstrom, Demidov, Levshunov, or Silayev will be available at 5OA.

        CBJ's 1st (4OA) + CBJ's 3rd (68th OA) for MTL's 1st (5OA) + WPG's 1st (26OA) should get it done from Columbus' perspective.
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        Jun. 6 at 4:58 p.m.
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        The teams in front of you have a wealth of the B tier prospects and later picks you'd be offering to move up, and all need the high end prospects you take at 1-4, so the likelihood that you move up only offering breadcrumbs is zero.
        Jun. 6 at 5:01 p.m.
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        Guhle should be more untouchable than Hutson.

        I can't see us moving out of #3 unless Chicago selects Levshunov, so Reinbacher is the most obvious compensation for the move back. No one else in your pipeline (even Mailloux) is of much interest to us. In theory, I could see a package like that suggested by @EmailTruck -- i.e., three firsts -- but that seems utterly unrealistic.
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        Jun. 6 at 5:17 p.m.
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        The only way I see the Hawks trading # 2 is if they have their eye on a guy they think they can get at #5 and in that case the Hawks would probably still be looking for an overpay.

        Something along the lines of:

        To Montreal - Chicago’s 2024 1st (2)

        To Chicago - Montreal’s 2024 1st (5), Winnipeg’s 2024 1st (26), Colorado’s 2024 2nd (57), Pittsburgh’s 2025 2nd and Barron.
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        Jun. 6 at 6:03 p.m.
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        To Chicago for #2 OA >>> #5 OA, either Owen Beck or Joshua Roy, and either the Montreal/Calgary 2025 1st.

        Since the Hawks get a good forward prospect they go D with the 5th pick and select Dickinson, Buium, or Yakemchuk at #5
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        Jun. 6 at 7:43 p.m.
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        @wojohawk and @Snowhawk18. Not enough in either of your asks. @boilermaker has the right idea. #5OA this year, Montreal's unprotected '25 1st next year and Roy. At a minimum. Which Montreal likely wouldn't do.

        That '24 Winnipeg 1st at #26 doesn't interest me one bit. No one on the board at #26 in this draft class is an actual first round talent. Same for adding any additional '24 2nd rounders. Those have diminished value to me as well.
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        Jun. 6 at 7:47 p.m.
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        Quoting: OldNYIfan
        Guhle should be more untouchable than Hutson.

        I can't see us moving out of #3 unless Chicago selects Levshunov, so Reinbacher is the most obvious compensation for the move back. No one else in your pipeline (even Mailloux) is of much interest to us. In theory, I could see a package like that suggested by EmailTruck -- i.e., three firsts -- but that seems utterly unrealistic.


        I'd be surprised if the Hawks took Levshunov over Demidov, but nobody really knows for sure where they're leaning. Unrealistic is a good way to put it-- trading up from #5 without giving up any top prospects is going to require something else unrealistic.
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