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Waiting until 25-26 for 1C

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Initial Creation Date: Jun. 9, 2024
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Save cap space and go at Draisaitl if he hits UFA next year. Don't spend money on an overrated Elias Lindholm. Re-sign Debrusk, Swayman, and give Poitras/Lysell a shot at significant NHL minutes.
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Mon. at 3:33 p.m.
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I have my doubts about Lindholm too but don’t plan on Draisaitl being the 1C target going forward I don’t see the Oilers letting him walk for free and we certainly don’t have the assets to trade for him
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Mon. at 3:50 p.m.
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I have my doubts about Lindholm too but don’t plan on Draisaitl being the 1C target going forward I don’t see the Oilers letting him walk for free and we certainly don’t have the assets to trade for him


If Leon wants to hit the open market, he will. He also has a NMC so assets are kinda irrelevant.

Even if Draisaitl doesn't make it to the market, next year's FA class is much better. Just doesn't make sense to sign Elias Linholm to a $50M contract because he is the best player this year... analytics show he has not been very good since 2021.
Mon. at 4:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Quaider11
I have my doubts about Lindholm too but don’t plan on Draisaitl being the 1C target going forward I don’t see the Oilers letting him walk for free and we certainly don’t have the assets to trade for him


I hate that phrase. every team in the NHL has the assets to go after rental leon draisaitl. It's just a matter of whether or not they want to.
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Mon. at 6:03 p.m.
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Elias Lindholm, if he makes it to free agency, is one of the best centers to make it to the market in years. I don’t anticipate that there will be a better one available next year.
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Mon. at 6:08 p.m.
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I hate that phrase. every team in the NHL has the assets to go after rental leon draisaitl. It's just a matter of whether or not they want to.


Well I can’t see Edmonton wanting a bunch of mid round firsts and Pasta McAvoy and Sway are off the table
They’d want Poitras if he continues to breakout but it’s not wise to trade our only young Center with Top 6 potential
Yeah Sweeney could move any of those assets but he won’t and shouldn’t
Also there are plenty of teams in the league that have nothing to interest Edmonton
Mon. at 6:13 p.m.
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Quoting: BruinsWoahWoah
If Leon wants to hit the open market, he will. He also has a NMC so assets are kinda irrelevant.

Even if Draisaitl doesn't make it to the market, next year's FA class is much better. Just doesn't make sense to sign Elias Linholm to a $50M contract because he is the best player this year... analytics show he has not been very good since 2021.

Next years projected UFA center class
Crosby
Tavares
Nelson
Kuznetsov
Granlund
Bennett
Dvorak
Gourde
Giroux
All of those options are either too old or equivalent to what we already have
Maybe Bennett moves the needle slightly but he doesn’t score and his LW is Matt Tkachuk so I don’t think he’ll score much in Boston
Mon. at 6:15 p.m.
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Quoting: BruinsWoahWoah
If Leon wants to hit the open market, he will. He also has a NMC so assets are kinda irrelevant.

Even if Draisaitl doesn't make it to the market, next year's FA class is much better. Just doesn't make sense to sign Elias Linholm to a $50M contract because he is the best player this year... analytics show he has not been very good since 2021.

To be honest with you I don’t really want to sign Lindholm either but unless we’re going to bank on the 2026 FA class this might be the best option available
Mon. at 7:40 p.m.
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Well I can’t see Edmonton wanting a bunch of mid round firsts and Pasta McAvoy and Sway are off the table
They’d want Poitras if he continues to breakout but it’s not wise to trade our only young Center with Top 6 potential
Yeah Sweeney could move any of those assets but he won’t and shouldn’t
Also there are plenty of teams in the league that have nothing to interest Edmonton


the other thing i hate is when people start to think expiring contracts get the world. they don't. they never do.
Mon. at 8:14 p.m.
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Elias Lindholm, if he makes it to free agency, is one of the best centers to make it to the market in years. I don’t anticipate that there will be a better one available next year.


Have you seen his analytics? Its pretty brutal
Mon. at 8:31 p.m.
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Have you seen his analytics? Its pretty brutal


This past year. Yeah. He had a down year and a very good playoff. His stat line outside of this outlier year is basically what you would have hoped for.
Mon. at 9:02 p.m.
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the other thing i hate is when people start to think expiring contracts get the world. they don't. they never do.


We aren’t going to win the trade for the second best player in the world it would cost a TON
Mon. at 9:06 p.m.
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We aren’t going to win the trade for the second best player in the world it would cost a TON


it will be in line with other rental deals. it will be more, but just like EVERY year, people forget what those guys costs. generally not as much as you think.

he's also not the second best player in the world.
Mon. at 9:12 p.m.
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it will be in line with other rental deals. it will be more, but just like EVERY year, people forget what those guys costs. generally not as much as you think.

he's also not the second best player in the world.


I feel like without McDavid he probably isn’t I’d put Mackinnon over him but we’d have to be really high on his trade list I guess the NMC could potentially work in our favor
Mon. at 9:13 p.m.
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I feel like without McDavid he probably isn’t I’d put Mackinnon over him but we’d have to be really high on his trade list I guess the NMC could potentially work in our favor


orrrr just look at NHL trade history.
Mon. at 10:01 p.m.
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orrrr just look at NHL trade history.

I would think the Eichel trade is probably a similar comp maybe a bit less
Mon. at 10:27 p.m.
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Have you seen his analytics? Its pretty brutal


I think he’d do well between Pastrnak and Zacha…but then so would Stephenson or Monahan. It all comes down to price and term. Lindholm will want 7 years. Stephenson would probably do between 3 and 5 and Monahan with his injury history might get 2. I’d be happy with any of the 3 as well as a scoring RW2!
Mon. at 11:14 p.m.
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This past year. Yeah. He had a down year and a very good playoff. His stat line outside of this outlier year is basically what you would have hoped for.


He hasn't been good since 2021-2022 and I am not willing to bet on a 30 year old to suddenly turn it around... the contract he is looking/what he will get paid will not be worth it
Mon. at 11:29 p.m.
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He hasn't been good since 2021-2022 and I am not willing to bet on a 30 year old to suddenly turn it around... the contract he is looking/what he will get paid will not be worth it


He was a franchise caliber center in 21-22.
Very good in 22-23

He didn’t play well in 23-24, but played well in the playoffs.

The reality of the situation is we don’t have the trade assets to acquire a top center without it being painful and Lindholm is easily the best on the market. Put him in between Zacha and Pasta …. And his stat line likely returns.
Tue. at 8:45 a.m.
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I would think the Eichel trade is probably a similar comp maybe a bit less


why? not an expiring contract.

there's one recent comp, and only one you can use, and that's erik karlsson.
Tue. at 9:27 a.m.
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He was a franchise caliber center in 21-22.
Very good in 22-23

He didn’t play well in 23-24, but played well in the playoffs.

The reality of the situation is we don’t have the trade assets to acquire a top center without it being painful and Lindholm is easily the best on the market. Put him in between Zacha and Pasta …. And his stat line likely returns.


He was a franchise player is 21-22, but according to analytics he was pretty mid about 60th percentile for WAR in 22-23 and basically an AHLer for 23-24. Not really sure I want the Bruins to overextend for a 30 year old center who appears to be in decline. IMO the most concerning aspect is that according to analytics, Lindholm's defensive game was almost as bad as is offense.

I wouldn't be so sure of his stat line will return... he played on a good roster in Vancouver.
Tue. at 10:16 a.m.
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He was a franchise player is 21-22, but according to analytics he was pretty mid about 60th percentile for WAR in 22-23 and basically an AHLer for 23-24. Not really sure I want the Bruins to overextend for a 30 year old center who appears to be in decline. IMO the most concerning aspect is that according to analytics, Lindholm's defensive game was almost as bad as is offense.

I wouldn't be so sure of his stat line will return... he played on a good roster in Vancouver.


He didn’t play like an AHL’er against the Oilers and Predators in the playoffs and his defense looked stellar. He also had a similar year to Barkov in 2022-2023.

I get it’s a risk, but so is doing nothing or signing the injury risk that is Monahan.

I could see them trading for Pierre Luc-Dubois. Don’t want them to, but could easily see it.
Tue. at 1:42 p.m.
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He didn’t play like an AHL’er against the Oilers and Predators in the playoffs and his defense looked stellar. He also had a similar year to Barkov in 2022-2023.

I get it’s a risk, but so is doing nothing or signing the injury risk that is Monahan.

I could see them trading for Pierre Luc-Dubois. Don’t want them to, but could easily see it.


I don't think Barkov is a good comparison...

I think they should do nothing rather than take the risk. What he had a good stretch of 12 games in the playoffs and thats supposed to outweigh a 3 year downward trend in his play?

Not worth extending him for a big dollar deal with max term when the team would be lucky if he was worth it for 2 out of the 7 years.
Tue. at 2:17 p.m.
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I don't think Barkov is a good comparison...

I think they should do nothing rather than take the risk. What he had a good stretch of 12 games in the playoffs and thats supposed to outweigh a 3 year downward trend in his play?

Not worth extending him for a big dollar deal with max term when the team would be lucky if he was worth it for 2 out of the 7 years.


Why not? They are the easiest comparables before last year.

Lindholm had a better year in 21-22
They were even in 22-23
Barkov had a better year in 23-24

The rest of the options at center can’t sniff that level of production. I agree he had a down year this year until the playoffs.
Tue. at 5:08 p.m.
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Why not? They are the easiest comparables before last year.

Lindholm had a better year in 21-22
They were even in 22-23
Barkov had a better year in 23-24

The rest of the options at center can’t sniff that level of production. I agree he had a down year this year until the playoffs.


Because Barkov has been a point per game player since 2020 and is on a different level than Lindholm... Barkov's "down year" was 78 points in 68 games. Lindholm's decline in play has been pretty consistent over the last 3 seasons outside of the 12 playoff games this year... not really willing to bet that he is going to shake out of a three year slump when he is turning 30 and wants a big contract until he's 37
 
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