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1st Round Underachievers

Created by: RecycleShark
Team: 2024-25 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 11, 2024
Published: Jun. 11, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$2,500,000
2$2,500,000
2$900,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,500,000
2$800,000
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Kakko, Kaapo [RFA Rights]
NYR
  1. Bordeleau, Thomas [RFA Rights]
2.
SJS
  1. Liljegren, Timothy [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Ferraro, Mario
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (NJD)
3.
SJS
  1. Broberg, Philip [RFA Rights]
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
    FC
    4.
    5.
    FLA
    1. 2025 4th round pick (WPG)
    6.
    SJS
    1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
    2. Smith, Ty [RFA Rights]
    3. 2024 3rd round pick (CAR)
    CAR
      FC
      7.
      Buyouts
      Retained Salary Transactions
      Buried
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2024
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      Logo of the PIT
      Logo of the SJS
      2025
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      Logo of the SJS
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      2026
      Logo of the SJS
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      29$88,000,000$76,315,000$0$5,007,500$11,685,000
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      LW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $5,000,000$5,000,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $1,450,000$1,450,000
      RW
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $828,333$828,333 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
      LW
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $4,820,000$4,820,000
      C
      UFA - 6
      $2,500,000$2,500,000
      RW
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,200,000$3M)
      C
      RFA - 3
      $900,000$900,000
      RW
      RFA
      Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
      $775,000$775,000
      C, LW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      C
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
      $800,000$800,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $918,333$918,333
      LW
      RFA - 3
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $2,500,000$2,500,000
      RW, C
      RFA
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $941,667$941,667 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
      RW, C
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $800,000$800,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      $1,500,000$1,500,000
      LD
      RFA
      $1,500,000$1,500,000
      RD
      RFA
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $2,350,000$2,350,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
      LD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $1,000,000$1,000,000
      RD
      RFA
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $3,400,000$3,400,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $1,000,000$1,000,000
      LD
      RFA
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $1,250,000$1,250,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Florida Panthers
      $4,500,000$4,500,000
      G
      RFA - 2
      $800,000$800,000
      LD/RD
      RFA
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $1,100,000$1,100,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $7,000,000$7,000,000
      LD/RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $2,750,000$2,750,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      Logo of the San Jose Sharks
      $8,000,000$8,000,000
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3

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      Tue. at 4:35 a.m.
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      Colby
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      Car and Edm wouldnt even consider that. 5M is a hit but def not worth the replacement of nurse and a first. Campbells contract is bad but def not worth a 1st plenty of other bad teams with cap space would take him for a 2nd and late pick. especially if they can just burry his deal and get 3.5ish back.
      Tue. at 6:43 a.m.
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      I'll take that if I'm Drury. Doesn't make use heavier to play against but perhaps they can sign another depth forward for that...
      Tue. at 9:24 a.m.
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      Quoting: colby
      Car and Edm wouldnt even consider that. 5M is a hit but def not worth the replacement of nurse and a first. Campbells contract is bad but def not worth a 1st plenty of other bad teams with cap space would take him for a 2nd and late pick. especially if they can just burry his deal and get 3.5ish back.


      Carolina absolutely should do that
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      Tue. at 10:44 a.m.
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      Quoting: colby
      Car and Edm wouldnt even consider that. 5M is a hit but def not worth the replacement of nurse and a first. Campbells contract is bad but def not worth a 1st plenty of other bad teams with cap space would take him for a 2nd and late pick. especially if they can just burry his deal and get 3.5ish back.


      I don't know that they bother doing that, but Campbell's considered a pure cap dump considering he's just been buried at the AHL level. Puckpedia's cap relief calculator suggests that three years of 3.875M of relief (the amount after burying) is worth the 18th overall pick and if you count the full 5M it goes up to pick 14. We don't know where Edmonton's first will be in 2025 but it's likely it'll be at least mid-20s. No team will take that on for a late second and a late pick. The 2024 2nd is going to be either pick 64 or 65 depending if they can come back and win the cup and there's a very large gap in value between pick 64 and pick 18 (the difference in value is roughly equal to pick 21).
      Tue. at 10:19 p.m.
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      Colby
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      Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
      Carolina absolutely should do that


      no shot they would. trading a cheap solid D and 3rd and solid 3rd liner for nothing but the cap? thats a terrible move when u consider there in a cap crunch right now and after they trade necas and probably dump orlov or buy him out they will be fine were they are.
      Tue. at 10:21 p.m.
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      Colby
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      Quoting: jamnjon
      I don't know that they bother doing that, but Campbell's considered a pure cap dump considering he's just been buried at the AHL level. Puckpedia's cap relief calculator suggests that three years of 3.875M of relief (the amount after burying) is worth the 18th overall pick and if you count the full 5M it goes up to pick 14. We don't know where Edmonton's first will be in 2025 but it's likely it'll be at least mid-20s. No team will take that on for a late second and a late pick. The 2024 2nd is going to be either pick 64 or 65 depending if they can come back and win the cup and there's a very large gap in value between pick 64 and pick 18 (the difference in value is roughly equal to pick 21).


      ur smoking some crazy stuff if u think they will spend a first and near nhl prospect to dump a few M for cap. better chance they just hope he comes back to form with time or buys him out. trading a near NHL 22 yearold when they are about to go into a cap crunch due to the nurse deal makes no sense. especially with how talented broberg is and how he is going to replace nurse. a first and the nurse contract sure. a first for the campbell deal? thats laughable.
      Tue. at 11:58 p.m.
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      Quoting: colby
      ur smoking some crazy stuff if u think they will spend a first and near nhl prospect to dump a few M for cap. better chance they just hope he comes back to form with time or buys him out. trading a near NHL 22 yearold when they are about to go into a cap crunch due to the nurse deal makes no sense. especially with how talented broberg is and how he is going to replace nurse. a first and the nurse contract sure. a first for the campbell deal? thats laughable.


      I said I don't know that they bother doing it. However, dumping cap space has a cost.

      You're trying to get out of a 3 year 5M cap hit contract. Patrick Marleau's 6.25M x1 got a first in 2019, Monahan's 6.375Mx1 got a first in 2022. Marc Staal's 5.7Mx1 deal got a second in 2020, Zaitsev's 4.5Mx1 got a 2nd and a 4th, and in 2021 Stralman's 5.5Mx1 got a 2nd and a prospect who'd been taken in the second round in 2019. Yes, you could bury his contract to get 1.125M in savings, but the same could be said for most of those other deals (Marleau's was a 35+ deal so only 100k could be buried).

      Based on those, IF the Oilers wanted to dump his contract which is , you'd have to be smoking some crazy stuff to think the price would only be a late second and a late round pick. It might be more worthwhile for them to buy him than to pay the price to dump him, but if they want to dump him they're not getting rid of him for less than a first.
       
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