Quoting: Subbanator7667
Montreal. That's the only market that matters, they need him more then a third line center. Also, any team that needs a top 4 offensive dman, Carolina jumps to mind, Winnipeg, Philadelphia, Nashville, San Jose (if they want a veteran presence), Edmonton, there's always teams looking for veteran depth.
Matheson on his own is fine value wise to just sell off, take the 1st and whatever other pieces, don't need to package him in order to move back in the draft
Tried, Tried, Tried,Tried and Didnt try.
CAR fans have a hate on for Matheson for some reason
WindJammer and other WPG fans say Matheson is bad defensively(
They gripe about the dip in his Advanced stats going down in MTL vs PIT
But he never played PK in PIT just 4 minutes total in 2 years there and his advanced stats in all situations were Great,even above average
In MTL on the PK 1 unit he's shaky not having played PK this much since FLA and took a 10% hit on his advanced metrics
Take him off PK and problem solved but then they gripe about his +/- then his turnovers.
Turnovers suck but he recovers 2/3rds he gives up unlike most players with his Turnover rate , and he scored 62 points vs 79 turnovers with 49 recoveries
Then we get to the +/- were only 5 habs regulars total were above 0
But still WPG wants no part in any deal i do outside a 2nd and Appleton(even then some gripe still saying its an overpay)
PHI said they just move Provorov to make room and arent in a position where Matheson or a LD in general is needed
They have to wait to figure out their Goaltending situation thanks to the Carter Hart Debacle and most i got PHI to offer was Couturier and a 3rd for Matheson mostly cause Couturier was healthy 1 season so they're trying to move him for anyone of value while they can
Nashville they say Josi is going no where making Matheson unneeded hence moving out McDonugh to make room for the youth to get some minutes on Left side.
San Jose i never really tried
They always Reject trades for Harris and Barron saying they are rebuilding they'll draft their own cause Acquiring them hasnt worked out so well Ruuta,Mukuhmadullin ,and Addison havent really worked out as great as they were hoping while Drafted Prospect Mario Ferrarro on the other hand is one of the top 20 shot blockers in the league and chewing up minutes.
That said i might have to take another run at a SJS trade
I got no interest in Keeping Matheson, sell on a high
We got a 2 year window where Guhle,Xhekaj,Harris , Barron,and Struble will compete
They will see who will be the Veteran Leaders for the Youth Core of Mailloux, Reinbacher, Engstrom, and Hutson
Thats assuming we dont draft another D if Demidov and Lindstrom are gone , which if Silayev or Levshunov fall from top 4 i'd get as they're studs
Guhle's having his time to shine Usurped by Matheson
Hutson is here and he takes a back seat to no one and eats up minutes by earning them
He'll out work and score Matheson by seasons end which will leave Guhle shove to the Right side if he wants top 4 minutes if we keep Matheson.
Really i think Utah makes the most sense
Its like the 3rd or 4th cheapest hockey state tax wise
Plus they have 0 D signed yet and a ton of players who pull low minutes at this stage in their development.
Matheson for 2 years playing 25 + with Durzi beside him who's grown his defensive game significantly since joining ARZ where he got top RD spot (unlike LAK fighting for minutes with Doughty/Roy)
Matheson-Durzi feels like a pair that could elevate Utah straight out the gate as their foward core depth is actually pretty good give Danil But and Simashev were just removed from their KHL teams site indicateing they're likely coming to play in NHL/AHL this year. 6'5 and 6'7 those big Russians are gonna change a lot for Utah relatively quick especially if a Silayev or Levshunov falls into their hands.
But the other Variable is teams Matheson will accept a trade to as he can block like 8 teams i believe?
so back to square one where its just easier to Trade Guhle in a Necas deal and it free's the appropriate space needed for Hutson/Matheson to co-exist
As long as we dont Re-sign Matheson. But i'd hate to give up Guhle just to keep Matheson who is good and all but he like Savard isnt part of our Cup Team Vision.
They're the guys to get our youth to that point where they can go on a run. There's no room for them as Hughes didnt Sell off Bergavin's Picks and Picked his own at all the same positions.
Now we got them all turning Pro at the same time. Mesar who was Bergavins guy was pushed out by Kidney last season
So delaying even another year is rough as guys we've taken later on in the Draft like Captain Koyuskov our 21 year old 3rd year pro RD we're not factoring in
If we keep hitting home runs with Hutsons,Konyuskov's even Kostenko was a top 10 D in the AHL equivalent over in Russia
We should move someone , anyone on LD ahead of Hutson to ensure he doesnt endure what Guhle has