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Team: 2024-25 Utah Hockey Club
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 11, 2024
Published: Jun. 11, 2024
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Danil But and Dmitri Simashev are both removed from their shared KHL teams site.
It would suggest the 6'5 and 6'7 towering russians taken 6th and 12th last year are working out a deal to come to North America or they're both getting traded in the KHL but its weird they were both removed at the same time.

I expect them to need time in the AHL adjusting given their gargantuan size
In that timeline UTah will be built to really start picking up steam.
Until then i got them on "Taxi squad" with Geekie/Demidov to show they're close ,keep them in mind.

With the 5th OA pick ARZ Demidov over likely Parekh,Dickinson,Buium or Iginla left
All good options but with 6'5 Danil But on Wing having a Center like Demidov is a luxury
Especially with Simashev taken 6th OA last year already having a strong chemsitry with But
He gives them the potential impact needed sooner then later as having a 6'5 dude on your wing will give you a lot of confidence.

Why Trade down? to assure they get Demidov, to upgrade their D, and to make a splash.
New owners move into a position where they're good today but left room
That way as Simashev is ready Matheson or Valimaki will be gone or in their final years.
Danil But is in a position Schmaltz will be in his final year allowing Gautier,Kakko and him to play top 9
Demidov has All sorts of room as you might sign Bjugstead or Kerfoot after this year but not both
Geekie will be up likely before Demidov but will settle into a 3rd line role
That is unless he can get the jump by positioning himself between Keller and Schmaltz
That would put him over at least in the moment anyways but likely Demidov-But will rise together

2025-26

Keller-Cooley-Geunther
Maccelli-Geekie-Kakko
Crouse-Demidov-But
Cacone -Lafferty -Doan
Janik

Simashev-Durzi
Moser-Trouba
Matheson-Kesslering
Valimaki

They re-sign Ullmark this time next year to an Extension of 5m with 3 years term with protection via NMC the first 2 years.
The last year he submits a 15 team no trade list
And half in Signing bonuses

Utah locks down Goaltending
Utah locks down Defense with a hell of a lot of shot to be blocked by offensive and defense Dmen alike
Utah has Size and Skill that only gets bigger as the years progress

The hope is Ullmark helps 27 year old Ingram who's playing great
But Ullmark can help make him better over time in a great tandem

In the end Utah gives up 3x Second Round Pick ,1x Third Round Pick and 1x Fourth Round Pick
They trade up at higher end and down at low end

I'd say MTL accepts cause we trade up 24 spots in the second round to go down 1 spot
We move Matheson but get McBain and a 2nd Giving us a hard hitting Power Center was want Dach to be.
Now Dach can play wing where he thrived and play with Roy and McBain


BOS im not sure as i value Hayton as a Center who can take Bulk Faceoffs in the middle 6,not sure about them
He's got top 5 Metrics in advanced team stats on a bad team but on BOS i think his skill shines more.
I think he'll settle in as a guy who takes 1200-1400 faceoffs a year while contributing 30-40pts on the low end
If he wasnt top 5 in most team Metrics i'd be more worried but given his age and roster
I'd say he'd done pretty well since his Rookie season at 21 three years ago


NYR i dunno i just took a shot in the dark on that one
Trouba i know has ties to NYC but i figured if he does waive if his Fiances School is done
That Utah would be a decent landing spot especially for a Doctor starting out assuming she's done school.

Trouba would become the 1st Captain of the Utah Yeti's
With Matheson and Valamaki wearing A's for the Dcore rotating Away and Home games
Also Keller and Schmaltz wearing A's for the Forwards rotating Away and Home games

They'll develop the Dcore with likely only Trouba being resigned of them after their terms up.
Cooley,Guenther,Simashev and Moser will take on bigger roles wearing the A's as Mentors leave
But Trouba will be the Captain of this build likely until he retires.

Say what you will about him he blocks a lot of shots and protects the youth.
Its what Utah needs right now in a 4 line team thats offense by committee
Unlike when VGK or SEA got their teams Utah has high end prospects ready now or close
If they can get the ball rolling year 1 going on a playoff run some of said players in the Taxi squad will join the run
Some pieces could be upgraded but not until after this season or at the earliest TDL
You want to see where Geekie, Demidov, But and Simashev are exactly as they might be ready now
i know Geekie will be one to keep an eye on for that.
Its why i went with Lafferty and Kerfoot in bottom 6 as they produce there filling a hole
Didnt want to Commit but wanted to be able to produce and thought about Boyd>Jost
Then decided with Laff there its redundant to have Boyd if you want to play Doan in the NHL anyways





After this 1st season i expect Utah to make another Big Splash, just dont know what
Should be fun to watch them in real life build their team up given the assets they started out with
Free Agent Signings
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1$2,500,000
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UTA
  1. Matheson, Michael
  2. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
-Utah trade up to 5th from 6th OA


-Trade Down from 33rd to 57th OA


-gives up a 2nd in 2026 outright

-McBain for Dvorak Swap for Balance.
MTL
  1. McBain, Jack
  2. 2024 1st round pick (UTA)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (UTA)
  4. 2026 2nd round pick (UTA)
Additional Details:
10th in Blocked Shots in the NHL and 2nd in production,Special teams and Ice Time Categories among Shot blockers.

Trouba/Matheson will carry this team in contrasting ways but it. Utah Trades Down with McBain for Dvo but gets the chance to profit of Dvorak twice potentially a 3rd time as they profit by taking him so that Utah trades down rather then trade away any piece outright but a 2026 2nd
2.
UTA
  1. Kakko, Kaapo [RFA Rights]
  2. Trouba, Jacob
Additional Details:
-Reduced return on Kakko to move Trouba
NYR
  1. Söderström, Victor
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (FLA)
  3. 2026 4th round pick (UTA)
Additional Details:
-About where Kakko is with more expected at this point but maybe NYR system that produces Stellar D can crack the Soderstrom puzzle.
-Depth picks to compensate the difference


Now i know many on here see Trouba as a Cap dump while i see it more like McDonugh where if they could afford to they would but cant right now. While about 3m overpaid he's a solid Shot Blocker and overall Defensive Dman who like Matheson is a high end shot blocker at 12th in the NHL. He will help this Dcore greatly so they're ready for Simashev to take over in 1-2 years time.
3.
BOS
  1. Hayton, Barrett
  2. Kolyachonok, Vladislav
  3. Vejmelka, Karel
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (COL)
  5. 2025 2nd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
-Conditional 2nd becomes a 1st in 2026 if ARZ wins 1 round in the playoffs with Ullmark starting 2 games or more.
Buyouts
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2024
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2025
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23$88,000,000$67,742,501$0$4,350,000$20,257,499
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,150,000$7,150,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,850,000$5,850,000
RW, C
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UFA - 2
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$4,300,000$4,300,000
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
C
RFA - 2
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RW, LW
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C
RFA
$995,000$995,000
C
UFA
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
RFA
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
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RFA
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
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UFA - 2
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G
UFA - 2
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RFA
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Taxi Squad
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C
RFA - 3
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Tue. at 1:51 p.m.
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Boston immediately hangs up.
Tue. at 2:03 p.m.
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Some of the contract are significant underpays, and Montreal and Boston definitely pass.
Tue. at 2:05 p.m.
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Why the f would MTL take this **** lmao
Tue. at 2:19 p.m.
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Matheson is more valuable than Mcbain and an extra 2nd doesnt move you up a spot into he top 5
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Tue. at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: math731
Why the f would MTL take this **** lmao


Mathesons in Guhle and Hutsons way
LD market is all but dead right now
Literally no one needs a LD who plays 25+ a night
I wish it wasnt true but i defy you to find a team that will take him and give you more.
I've tried for the better part of a year since Guhle's growth was Dwarfed when he was moved to RD to get minutes as Matheson was hogging them on Left side.

Utah is basically the only team in play who could use a LD or two who play those kinda minutes
I mean i keep saying CGY but their fanbase hates me now for pointing out he'd fit in there system but i digress.
I coulda made this trade easier without him with a lot less hoops but it had to be him for the good of the youth.
Especially if MTL does what i think its gonna and take another Defenseman if Lindstrom and Demidov are gone in the case we kept our original pick

Plus we get to move up significantly to capture 6'7 Dean Letourneau who's likely to fall just outside the 2nd round.
MTL gets to Take BPA hopefully Iginla but likely Parekh or Buium so trading down allows us to grow the 6'7 french giant guilt free and gives us McBain >Dvorak
MTL walks away with room for our Dcore's Studs to grow before the new wave of Dmen turning pro start pushing like Xhekaj and Guhle did with Barron, Harris and Kovacevic
Or Struble and now Hutson with this year it likely to be Mailloux and Reinbacher pushing with odds on Engstrom overachieving too. So if Moving Matheson shakes you up 2026 is gonne be rough on you


So 6'7 French Center , McBain and a 2nd round pick next year to move Matheson and down 1 spot from 5th OA to 6th OA when we'll have another quality pick including many that can replace Matheson from Buium to Dickinson, Parekh to possibly Silayev who at at least 3/4 of those D will likely be available at that position with Buium NHL Ready as he's done it all going out on the highest high in the NCAA.
Tue. at 2:35 p.m.
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Matheson is more valuable than Mcbain and an extra 2nd doesnt move you up a spot into he top 5


To whom?
Show me the teams that can use him in todays market?
I've been down this road and was where you were
But there's literally Utah and thats about it
The rest have their own Matheson or better except his old teams who's fanbases REALLY dont want him back

But you list some of the markets in on Matheson
Then ill go bark up that tree
Tue. at 3:28 p.m.
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To whom?
Show me the teams that can use him in todays market?
I've been down this road and was where you were
But there's literally Utah and thats about it
The rest have their own Matheson or better except his old teams who's fanbases REALLY dont want him back

But you list some of the markets in on Matheson
Then ill go bark up that tree


Montreal. That's the only market that matters, they need him more then a third line center. Also, any team that needs a top 4 offensive dman, Carolina jumps to mind, Winnipeg, Philadelphia, Nashville, San Jose (if they want a veteran presence), Edmonton, there's always teams looking for veteran depth.

Matheson on his own is fine value wise to just sell off, take the 1st and whatever other pieces, don't need to package him in order to move back in the draft
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Tue. at 3:51 p.m.
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What’s the point of trading for Kakko and continuing to put him on the 3rd line?
Tue. at 6:07 p.m.
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Overpay with Boston, Montreal likely declines, great outlook though
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Tue. at 9:42 p.m.
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Did their owners really say that? If so, bad idea,
Tue. at 11:11 p.m.
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Quoting: TeddyLovesTheJets
Overpay with Boston, Montreal likely declines, great outlook though


not even enough for boston. a 2nd 3rd mid prospect who seems to not be taking any steps forward who is already 23, a 24 yearold 3rd line C with injury issues and struggle to score and a backup goalie? if bos were interested in that they would have already moved him to NJ or LA or OTT with how those teams have been going after ullmark.
Tue. at 11:19 p.m.
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not even enough for boston. a 2nd 3rd mid prospect who seems to not be taking any steps forward who is already 23, a 24 yearold 3rd line C with injury issues and struggle to score and a backup goalie? if bos were interested in that they would have already moved him to NJ or LA or OTT with how those teams have been going after ullmark.


Barrett is a season removed from 40 points at 22, Vej has stepped up before and played like a quality starting goaltender, Koly probably doesn’t have any use to Boston but could still easily be flipped for a pick, I’d take this deal and run if I was Boston, there are more proven goalies with worse teams in front of them on the market like Mark and Juuse
Tue. at 11:25 p.m.
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Quoting: TeddyLovesTheJets
Barrett is a season removed from 40 points at 22, Vej has stepped up before and played like a quality starting goaltender, Koly probably doesn’t have any use to Boston but could still easily be flipped for a pick, I’d take this deal and run if I was Boston, there are more proven goalies with worse teams in front of them on the market like Mark and Juuse


mark has had 2 terrible season, has 2 years with a terrible cap hit meaning u would have to also pay for a cap % and hope a goalie on the wrong side of 30 bounces back. saros is the only comparable and you would have to give a mega haul to get him away from the preds right now. so no boston wouldnt even consider this deal. they have 2 young goalies in the pipeline who are near/ready to play in the NHL so a backup goalie doesnt move the mark at all. a bad prospect whos struggling to take a step above middle Dmins in the AHL isnt going to get anything of note back let alone be valueable to the bruins. making the whole reason a team makes a deal is *if* or *could* doesnt make a deal good. they laugh them off the phone and ask for a real offer
Yesterday at 4:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Montreal. That's the only market that matters, they need him more then a third line center. Also, any team that needs a top 4 offensive dman, Carolina jumps to mind, Winnipeg, Philadelphia, Nashville, San Jose (if they want a veteran presence), Edmonton, there's always teams looking for veteran depth.

Matheson on his own is fine value wise to just sell off, take the 1st and whatever other pieces, don't need to package him in order to move back in the draft


Tried, Tried, Tried,Tried and Didnt try.
CAR fans have a hate on for Matheson for some reason
WindJammer and other WPG fans say Matheson is bad defensively(
They gripe about the dip in his Advanced stats going down in MTL vs PIT
But he never played PK in PIT just 4 minutes total in 2 years there and his advanced stats in all situations were Great,even above average
In MTL on the PK 1 unit he's shaky not having played PK this much since FLA and took a 10% hit on his advanced metrics
Take him off PK and problem solved but then they gripe about his +/- then his turnovers.
Turnovers suck but he recovers 2/3rds he gives up unlike most players with his Turnover rate , and he scored 62 points vs 79 turnovers with 49 recoveries
Then we get to the +/- were only 5 habs regulars total were above 0
But still WPG wants no part in any deal i do outside a 2nd and Appleton(even then some gripe still saying its an overpay)

PHI said they just move Provorov to make room and arent in a position where Matheson or a LD in general is needed
They have to wait to figure out their Goaltending situation thanks to the Carter Hart Debacle and most i got PHI to offer was Couturier and a 3rd for Matheson mostly cause Couturier was healthy 1 season so they're trying to move him for anyone of value while they can

Nashville they say Josi is going no where making Matheson unneeded hence moving out McDonugh to make room for the youth to get some minutes on Left side.

San Jose i never really tried
They always Reject trades for Harris and Barron saying they are rebuilding they'll draft their own cause Acquiring them hasnt worked out so well Ruuta,Mukuhmadullin ,and Addison havent really worked out as great as they were hoping while Drafted Prospect Mario Ferrarro on the other hand is one of the top 20 shot blockers in the league and chewing up minutes.
That said i might have to take another run at a SJS trade

I got no interest in Keeping Matheson, sell on a high
We got a 2 year window where Guhle,Xhekaj,Harris , Barron,and Struble will compete
They will see who will be the Veteran Leaders for the Youth Core of Mailloux, Reinbacher, Engstrom, and Hutson
Thats assuming we dont draft another D if Demidov and Lindstrom are gone , which if Silayev or Levshunov fall from top 4 i'd get as they're studs

Guhle's having his time to shine Usurped by Matheson
Hutson is here and he takes a back seat to no one and eats up minutes by earning them
He'll out work and score Matheson by seasons end which will leave Guhle shove to the Right side if he wants top 4 minutes if we keep Matheson.

Really i think Utah makes the most sense
Its like the 3rd or 4th cheapest hockey state tax wise
Plus they have 0 D signed yet and a ton of players who pull low minutes at this stage in their development.
Matheson for 2 years playing 25 + with Durzi beside him who's grown his defensive game significantly since joining ARZ where he got top RD spot (unlike LAK fighting for minutes with Doughty/Roy)
Matheson-Durzi feels like a pair that could elevate Utah straight out the gate as their foward core depth is actually pretty good give Danil But and Simashev were just removed from their KHL teams site indicateing they're likely coming to play in NHL/AHL this year. 6'5 and 6'7 those big Russians are gonna change a lot for Utah relatively quick especially if a Silayev or Levshunov falls into their hands.

But the other Variable is teams Matheson will accept a trade to as he can block like 8 teams i believe?
so back to square one where its just easier to Trade Guhle in a Necas deal and it free's the appropriate space needed for Hutson/Matheson to co-exist
As long as we dont Re-sign Matheson. But i'd hate to give up Guhle just to keep Matheson who is good and all but he like Savard isnt part of our Cup Team Vision.
They're the guys to get our youth to that point where they can go on a run. There's no room for them as Hughes didnt Sell off Bergavin's Picks and Picked his own at all the same positions.
Now we got them all turning Pro at the same time. Mesar who was Bergavins guy was pushed out by Kidney last season
So delaying even another year is rough as guys we've taken later on in the Draft like Captain Koyuskov our 21 year old 3rd year pro RD we're not factoring in
If we keep hitting home runs with Hutsons,Konyuskov's even Kostenko was a top 10 D in the AHL equivalent over in Russia

We should move someone , anyone on LD ahead of Hutson to ensure he doesnt endure what Guhle has
Yesterday at 4:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Rags21
What’s the point of trading for Kakko and continuing to put him on the 3rd line?


Schmaltz and Bjugstad will be leaving soon
Point is Maccelli will be top 6, can Kakko get chemistry with him and go too as soon as Geekie's ready

Geekie, Geekie is the point though for sure as without him people just see Kerfoot who's a Pending UFA and think "what a waste"(its strategic though)
As shown in that Huge explanation there is a line set up for the Hope after 2025-26(or the start if the youth push early)
Kerfoot and Bjugstad were kept on 1 years to but time but i coulda just slapped Geekie in their early i suppose but he's not quite there yet, close but needs at least half a year in the AHL.

Maccelli-Geekie-Kakko could be really good together
It could also be completely pointless effort to integrate Kakko in with the next Generation and instead just push Doan
But i wanted Trouba and the only piece i saw of value NYR fans wouldnt riot over was Kakko. For most moving Kakko and Trouba gives Cap Space which is worth losing some value in the Soderstorm exchange of the former top 10 picks. I'd be just as happy with Lindgren or Schneider or Othman or Even just a Rempe who's less skill more Hits/Grit but is a Fan Favorite, i could sell that .
But something has to come back with Trouba to make the deal work and Kakko just seemed to fit easiest for all sides as Maccelli could use a Winger to play along the boards allowing him more room to set up
 
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