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Zegras is not good

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Team: 2024-25 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 11, 2024
Published: Jun. 11, 2024
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  1. Zegras, Trevor
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Does this get a trade done? No. ANA prolly gets a better offer from a team that isn't worried as much about winning, and more about selling tickets in a smaller market (Utah, maybe?) Also, I think its fair to say that the league just doesn't believe in Zegras.

As for this trade, this is the most I would be okay with Don moving for him without immediately calling for his firing. In my opinion, Zacha is a better player, and just a bit older. Lysell is likely not making it in our system, so its fine moving him.

This trade still sucks for Boston, though. We shouldn't consider Zegras at all. He is not a good player. He is Patrick Kane with half the offense and the same level of ineptitude on the forecheck and defense. Zegras is a circus clown who is a net negative on the ice. His ceiling is an offensive 2nd line wing who needs defensive linemates to cover up for him. We already have a more well-rounded version of that in Zacha. I really cannot stand Bruins and Ducks fans who overvalue Zegras or even think there is any fit in Boston. Zegras is the opposite of what makes a good Bruin. Just send him to Utah.
ANA
  1. Lysell, Fabian
  2. Zacha, Pavel
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (BOS)
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Tue. at 3:16 p.m.
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zacha is better than zegras in my opinion
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Tue. at 3:16 p.m.
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popcorn popcorn
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Tue. at 3:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
zacha is better than zegras in my opinion


I agree. If you see what I don't know if you got to read my rationale for the trade, but I said that "Zacha is a better player, and just a bit older."
Tue. at 3:20 p.m.
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As a Zegras extreme hater, I think that The bruins are losing this trade
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Tue. at 3:21 p.m.
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AS a Zegras extreme hater, I think that The bruins are losing this trade


I agree. I said as much under the trade. That trade is awful, I think its just the most we could give up for him without immediately needing to fire someone.
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Tue. at 3:22 p.m.
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As a Zegras extreme hater, I think that The bruins are losing this trade


yet just today i saw a ducks fan saying that the ducks wouldn't consider two firsts and the bruins top prospect for little trevor.
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Tue. at 3:24 p.m.
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LOL
Tue. at 3:28 p.m.
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Zegras is worth 2 Top 10 Lottery 1st Rd picks, your best young cheap under contract player and your best A level prospect, $15 million dollars and future consideration.

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Tue. at 3:33 p.m.
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Zacha is better than Zegras? On defense sure but he's 4 years older than Zegras and hasn't touched the points Zegras put up as a rookie. There's two sides of the game, Zegras job is to produce points, which is more valuable than playing defense, add the fact that Zegras has a lot more potential then Zacha and they're not close to the same value lol
Tue. at 3:37 p.m.
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Zacha is better than Zegras? On defense sure but he's 4 years older than Zegras and hasn't touched the points Zegras put up as a rookie. There's two sides of the game, Zegras job is to produce points, which is more valuable than playing defense, add the fact that Zegras has a lot more potential then Zacha and they're not close to the same value lol


Zacha last season: 78GP, 21G, 38A, 59pts

Zegras BEST season: 81GP, 23G, 42A, 65pts

Zacha is better in every aspect of his game, and offense is debatable. Zegras is worth a second-round pick or an okay prospect. Nothing more.
Tue. at 3:39 p.m.
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This return is light for Z, But the Ducks fans on here who want a top 5 pick + a player for Zegras always crack me up
Tue. at 3:40 p.m.
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Zacha last season: 78GP, 21G, 38A, 59pts

Zegras BEST season: 81GP, 23G, 42A, 65pts

Zacha is better in every aspect of his game, and offense is debatable. Zegras is worth a second-round pick or an okay prospect. Nothing more.


Wow with that kind of analysis you should be submitting your resume to NHL teams
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Tue. at 3:44 p.m.
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Edited Tue. at 3:59 p.m.. Reason: added explanatory phrase
Fabian Lysell has now completed his D + 3 season and has zero NHL games under his belt.

By the same time in his career, Trevor Zegras had played 99 NHL games and one 60-point-plus season under his belt. He now has two such seasons under his belt; Pavel Zacha has none and is four years older.

In his two seasons with Boston, Zacha has averaged 0.725 PPG. Over his career, Zegras has averaged 0.73 PPG despite his injury-derailed 2023-2024 season. Which is not to say that Zacha is inferior to Zegras, but simply to say that you will have a hard time producing meaningful statistics that prove that Zegras is significantly inferior to Zacha.

This is a very poorly constructed trade for Boston because the Bruins can't afford to simply exchange top-6 centers even at a profit, and that doesn't even take into account the fact that Zegras probably won't be playing center from this point forward.

Your hatred for someone you don't know and obviously don't understand is unhealthy and immature.

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Zegras is worth 2 Top 10 Lottery 1st Rd picks, your best young cheap under contract player and your best A level prospect, $15 million dollars and future consideration.

Said no Ducks fan, average or otherwise, ever.

Why do you embarrass yourself so badly like this?
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Tue. at 3:44 p.m.
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Wow with that kind of analysis you should be submitting your resume to NHL teams


Gotta love people who resort to ad hominem attacks on a hockey forum as soon as someone disagrees with them.
Tue. at 3:47 p.m.
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Fabian Lysell has now completed his D + 3 season and has zero NHL games under his belt.

By the same time in his career, Trevor Zegras had played 99 NHL games and one 60-point-plus season under his belt. He now has two such seasons under his belt; Pavel Zacha has none.

In his two seasons with Boston, Zacha has averaged 0.725 PPG. Over his career, Zegras has averaged 0.73 PPG despite his injury-derailed 2023-2024 season. Which is not to say that Zacha is inferior to Zegras, but simply to say that you will have a hard time producing meaningful statistics that prove that Zegras is significantly inferior to Zacha.

This is a very poorly constructed trade for Boston because the Bruins can't afford to simply exchange top-6 centers even at a profit, and that doesn't even take into account the fact that Zegras probably won't be playing center from this point forward.

Your hatred for someone you don't know and obviously don't understand is unhealthy and immature.


Said no Ducks fan, average or otherwise, ever.

Why do you embarrass yourself so badly like this?


I don't have any bad feelings towards Zegras, just don't want us to trade for him and had fun passionately writing about it wink.

Zegras just isn't worth much in a hockey trade, and in my opinion is not a great hockey player. No hate to him personally, though.
Tue. at 3:50 p.m.
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This thread is awesome
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Tue. at 3:55 p.m.
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I just want to say Zegras produced more points while not playing with a Pastrnak.
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Tue. at 3:55 p.m.
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Ullmark isn't worth 10oa. He's 3-6 career wise in the playoffs and has played more than 41 games in a season once in his whole career. Boston fans are dreaming that the Devils pay a 10oa for him all for the right to pay him an expensive contract extension.
Tue. at 3:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Jake_Defranchise
Gotta love people who resort to ad hominem attacks on a hockey forum as soon as someone disagrees with them.


Disagree all you want, rarely history of the league has a NHL GM traded away a potential ppg player for a defense first forward who was 4 years older.

You can have that opinion but there's not a single person running an NHL franchise that trades Zegras for what's posted and I the only example I can think of is when Boston traded away Thorton in middle of the season for a pile of garbage
Tue. at 4:13 p.m.
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For all the hate about Zegras getting overvalued in trades to Boston…and being a bad fit for Boston…maybe consider the same about Ullmark to New Jersey. A rental goalie is not worth a top-10 pick and doesn’t want to play here. Yet, everyday we see this trade over and over. Imagine how Boston fans look to us.

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Tue. at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Jake_Defranchise
Zacha last season: 78GP, 21G, 38A, 59pts

Zegras BEST season: 81GP, 23G, 42A, 65pts

Zacha is better in every aspect of his game, and offense is debatable. Zegras is worth a second-round pick or an okay prospect. Nothing more.


This website is truly incredible. I'll miss reading stuff like this.
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Tue. at 4:27 p.m.
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“Zegras isn’t good”
*continues to make a mock trade for him*
Tue. at 4:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Jake_Defranchise
I don't have any bad feelings towards Zegras, just don't want us to trade for him and had fun passionately writing about it wink.

Zegras just isn't worth much in a hockey trade, and in my opinion is not a great hockey player. No hate to him personally, though.

Since Trevor Zegras broke into the League, he has recorded 154 points playing with a team which some subtle indications suggest was not as good a team as Boston. In those four seasons, exactly four Bruins have recorded more points; three of them are Hall of Famers and the fourth, Charlie Coyle, has taken 86 -- yes, eighty-six -- more games to score a massive 11 more points. So no one on your team other than your three Hall of Famers has a higher PPG average than Zegras. And since one of your Hall of Famers has now retired, Zegras' ceiling is on your top line.
Tue. at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Jake_Defranchise
Zacha last season: 78GP, 21G, 38A, 59pts

Zegras BEST season: 81GP, 23G, 42A, 65pts

Zacha is better in every aspect of his game, and offense is debatable. Zegras is worth a second-round pick or an okay prospect. Nothing more.


“Zacha is better in every aspect of the game”

Pt/g: Zegras 0.73 > 0.54
G/g: Zegras 0.26 > 0.20
EV pt/g: Zegras 0.56 > 0.39
Rel/Corsi: Zegras +13.6 > +2.5
EV Rel Corsi: Zegras +5.6 > +0.4
Rel/Fenwick: Zegras +12.2 > +2.5
EV Rel Fenwick: Zegras +4.5 > +0.4
Age: Zegras 23 > 27
Contract situation: Zegras 2x$5.75M ending RFA > 3x$4.75M ending UFA

“Zegras is worth a second-round pick”

#2nd rounders in Zegras’ draft year with over 90 NHL points: 0 (Zegras 154)

There are absolutely things Zacha does better that you could focus on, like faceoffs, blocked shots, hits, takeaways. But saying things definitively that are just so clearly untrue hurts your credibility quite a bit and makes it hard to trust that you even believe the opinions your saying.

Even your quoting of Zegras’ best season vs Zacha’s last season is misleading. Last season was Zacha’s best. It also doesn’t account for a way larger sample of seasons, especially in prime years for Zacha. At Zegras’ age, Zacha’s best season was 17-18-35.

Look, I like Zacha. But I don’t see why ANA or BOS would do this, and frankly I’d be very surprised if you’ve actually watched much of Zegras for yourself, especially recently. Seems like a lot of your opinion is just repeating a few media opinions of him rather than sharing your own. I get why, ANA sucks and plays west coast hours. But you should humble yourself in how you state your case if you aren’t actually that familiar with his game. I’d honestly love for you to watch any one of his last 8 games of last year and circle back with a take of your own. I think you might have a different tune 🤷‍♂️
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Tue. at 4:48 p.m.
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Why do you make things up about a player you don’t know or watch?
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