Quoting: knowerofpuck
Ha, okay this should be fun.
Gudas has missed more than 10 games twice in the last six seasons and he's nearing 800 career games. That's not injury prone. Not to mention calling him "over the hill" when he's still one of the best defensive defensemen in the NHL. Since we're apparently using plus/minus to evaluate players (LOL), Gudas was a +14 for the third worst team in the league. Only three other semi-regular Ducks were even a plus. Gudas would instantly be the second best defenseman on the Leafs. Edmundson isn't anywhere close to the same caliber of player.
Mintyukov is one of the best defensive prospects in the NHL, so no he is not equivalent to a late first round pick. He goes in the top five of a 2022 redraft. But again, using plus/minus as your primary tool (and CHL plus/minus at that) is nonsense. He would instantly become the Leafs best under-25 player.
As for Marner/Terry, if only there was some complicating factor affecting Marner's trade value... Oh wait he's a free agent in a year and going to walk. Other than that, nailed it!!
Ok. So you want to overvalue everyone and undervalue Marner.
And I an properly evaluating all the players as they.
Fair enough.
Gudas GP 73, 31, 76, 67, 70, 77, 63, 54, 77, 72, 66. Career, possible 984 games. Played 748. Averaging just under 20 missed games per season. Or 25% Horrible.
Was a UFA last year and tried to wait for a contract and not a single team in the league wanted him. All competitive teams passed. Signed a pity deal in no mans land Anaheim. SOG 88 last season. Down from 110 and 100 the 2 seasons before. Even though ice time increased. Horrible
You said it. The kid is a prospect. Nothing more. Why do the Leafs want to trade superstars for prospects during a win now window again? How does that get them to a cup? As I said. He is a first round pick equivalent. Less than a season of NHL experience total. That is simply factually accurate.
Anyone who knew enough about hockey to suggest a Marner trade would know enough to understand it would come with an assumed extension. Or he would never agree to the trade in the first place (which we know he wouldn't because why would he go to ANA? They are terrible)
So that is a non issue.
Sufficient to say Marner has about twice the value Terry has just on talent alone.
So even if you wanted to make such a misguided claim, it would be evened out by the fact Marner is worth double what Terry is.
Good day.