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Fluto Shinzawa says 2nd round pick for Ullmark

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Team: 2024-25 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 12, 2024
Published: Jun. 12, 2024
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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5549423/2024/06/10/bruins-ullmark-swayman-mcavoy-offseason-questions/
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In his latest for the Athletic, Bruins reporter said the "realistic trade value this offseason" for Ullmark is a 2nd round pick.
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Wed. at 11:33 a.m.
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They can get a 2nd from a half dozen teams easy, think it takes something added on to lond him.
Wed. at 11:38 a.m.
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It will probably be a late first
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Wed. at 11:39 a.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
They can get a 2nd from a half dozen teams easy, think it takes something added on to lond him.


I feel like any team needing a goalie would happily pay that. Which is why i’d do the Boston 1st + a future 3rd or something.
Wed. at 11:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
They can get a 2nd from a half dozen teams easy, think it takes something added on to lond him.


Maybe. Goalies tend to be harder to price, especially with unknown M-NTC.

It sounds like his NTC is made up of teams that could be seeking a goalie...as he wants to stay in goalie-friendly Boston in contract year.

So some of those teams may have to overspend on extension to get him to waive NTC.

Watch him ask for Swayman's number (if Swayman ever gets a number)
Wed. at 11:42 a.m.
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I feel like any team needing a goalie would happily pay that. Which is why i’d do the Boston 1st + a future 3rd or something.


And if OTT is on his NTC...do you offer $7m x 8-year extension for him to break it?
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Wed. at 11:43 a.m.
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And if OTT is on his NTC...do you offer $7m x 8-year extension for him to break it?


I think we’d have to atleast entertain it. Cap will continue to rise so i’d be fine with having to pay extra term.
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Wed. at 11:48 a.m.
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I like Fluto in that he is an active writer, but him and Joe Haggerty have had the same narrative for about a year. Frankly, he’ll say it because if he’s wrong, it won’t hurt his history of predictions.

We’ll see how it plays out, but I’d be stunned if Fluto were right. Then again, I could say that about every one of his takes. His prediction guesses are generally wrong way too much for a reporter.
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Wed. at 11:48 a.m.
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nah he is pretty good. he will easily get a late 1st but not the other crap offers I've been seeing like chychrun + 1st or necas
Wed. at 11:48 a.m.
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I think we’d have to atleast entertain it. Cap will continue to rise so i’d be fine with having to pay extra term.


Would you give him Bobrosvky contract?

Bob was 30y, 284d when we signed
Ullmark will be 30y, 336d on July 1st
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Wed. at 11:49 a.m.
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Overpayment for Heinen, IMO. I want the Bruins to sign him, but I don't think he's sniffing 3 sheets. I'm guessing 1.5 - 2M.
Wed. at 11:50 a.m.
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Overpayment for Heinen, IMO. I want the Bruins to sign him, but I don't think he's sniffing 3 sheets. I'm guessing 1.5 - 2M.


I just cut & pasted contract figures from AFP projections
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Wed. at 11:51 a.m.
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Would you give him Bobrosvky contract?

Bob was 30y, 284d when we signed
Ullmark will be 30y, 336d on July 1st


I wouldn't offer him 10M x 7, no
Wed. at 12:07 p.m.
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I'd be floored if Ullmark goes for just a 2nd round pick.
Wed. at 12:22 p.m.
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nah he is pretty good. he will easily get a late 1st but not the other crap offers I've been seeing like chychrun + 1st or necas


Those are pretty good offers.
Wed. at 12:34 p.m.
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nah he is pretty good. he will easily get a late 1st but not the other crap offers I've been seeing like chychrun + 1st or necas


It depends on what Boston is adding in both cases.

Ullmark and a 2025 first for Necas probably is in sniffing distance. My perspective is Necas is the PLD of this class. We’ll see if someone steps up with an LA offer or considers that he likely is going to demand a questionable contract

My assumption is for Chychrun and #25, Boston is adding something like a 2026 2nd. Maybe even a secondary prospect.

As a straight up swap, I’m expecting a late first if it’s this year. Maybe a 3rd and a lottery protected first in 2025.
Wed. at 12:44 p.m.
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Maybe. Goalies tend to be harder to price, especially with unknown M-NTC.

It sounds like his NTC is made up of teams that could be seeking a goalie...as he wants to stay in goalie-friendly Boston in contract year.

So some of those teams may have to overspend on extension to get him to waive NTC.

Watch him ask for Swayman's number (if Swayman ever gets a number)



Ullmark and his agent are probably looking at what teams are doing, he needs to go be the legit #1 starter somewhere to show off. he can't afford to play 35-40 games behind swayman if he intends to get a better contract for the 2025 season.
Wed. at 12:49 p.m.
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It depends on what Boston is adding in both cases.

Ullmark and a 2025 first for Necas probably is in sniffing distance. My perspective is Necas is the PLD of this class. We’ll see if someone steps up with an LA offer or considers that he likely is going to demand a questionable contract

My assumption is for Chychrun and #25, Boston is adding something like a 2026 2nd. Maybe even a secondary prospect.

As a straight up swap, I’m expecting a late first if it’s this year. Maybe a 3rd and a lottery protected first in 2025.


If I had to put money on it…a 20-40 pick is probably about right. Ottawa has #25 and #39, if the latter I think about piece is included.

I think Chychrun finds his way home to Miami…just a hunch. He grew up there, his dad works for Panthers, and there is likely to be some shuffling on that blueline.
Wed. at 12:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Bruins_Guy613
Ullmark and his agent are probably looking at what teams are doing, he needs to go be the legit #1 starter somewhere to show off. he can't afford to play 35-40 games behind swayman if he intends to get a better contract for the 2025 season.


With the resume he has put together, 30 starts in Boston still can get him big extension. 60-starts on defensively challenged team could be worse.

It’s all moot if he is traded with pre-negotiated contract and he gets his big number this summer. (Which is one of the reasons I think he moves after draft).
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With the resume he has put together, 30 starts in Boston still can get him big extension. 60-starts on defensively challenged team could be worse.

It’s all moot if he is traded with pre-negotiated contract and he gets his big number this summer. (Which is one of the reasons I think he moves after draft).


ya think so too, more teams are likely to want something in place which should help the Bruins return. it also takes any pics for this year off the boars which means they may lean into more of a hockey trade.
Yesterday at 1:21 p.m.
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But Ullmark is an elite goalie
Yesterday at 4:47 p.m.
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With the resume he has put together, 30 starts in Boston still can get him big extension. 60-starts on defensively challenged team could be worse.

It’s all moot if he is traded with pre-negotiated contract and he gets his big number this summer. (Which is one of the reasons I think he moves after draft).


Also a viable possibility. I believe the closer he is to his Vezina year and the removal of injury risk has value. Whether it is enough for him to contemplate a trade to a market he’d normally turn down is an interesting discussion. It offers him more leverage overall.

I don’t see Florida acquiring Chychrun if you look at their expected commitments. Look at how many UFA’s they have to deal with in the next two years
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ya think so too, more teams are likely to want something in place which should help the Bruins return. it also takes any pics for this year off the boars which means they may lean into more of a hockey trade.


Quoting: Celtics21
Also a viable possibility. I believe the closer he is to his Vezina year and the removal of injury risk has value. Whether it is enough for him to contemplate a trade to a market he’d normally turn down is an interesting discussion. It offers him more leverage overall.

I don’t see Florida acquiring Chychrun if you look at their expected commitments. Look at how many UFA’s they have to deal with in the next two years


I think wherever he goes, it ends up being 2025 1st, which most teams would be happy to move for 6-7 years of him (vs one year of him). Or potentially hockey trade, if that lines up better.

Chychrun to FLA is just my hunch. Also would be move after 7/1/25.

(None of us will be here any more though)
Yesterday at 5:40 p.m.
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But Ullmark is an elite goalie


He has one year left on contract and has no trade protection…and will be looking for big extension. So while he may be a good player, there are other factors involved.
Yesterday at 5:50 p.m.
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Sorry the sarcasm didn’t come through. I’m just tired of the Ullmark Necas trades.

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He has one year left on contract and has no trade protection…and will be looking for big extension. So while he may be a good player, there are other factors involved.
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If the return is a second, just keep him.
 
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