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Created by: iggy12rocks
Published: Wed. at 3:21 p.m.
Salary Cap: $88,000,000
Season Days: 185/186 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because the cap hit of one of the teams is below the lower limit

Logo of the Nashville PredatorsNashville Predators

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Saros, JuuseNashville PredatorsNHL-$4,973,118011-------00
2024 4th round pick (Logo of the Nashville PredatorsNSH)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Marner, MitchellToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$10,844,382011---0000--
2024 5th round pick (Logo of the Nashville PredatorsNSH)---001------
2024 5th round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$26,345,80115304841110
Change-$5,871,264000001
Final$20,474,537 (↓)15304841111 (↑)000

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Marner, MitchellToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$10,844,382011---0000--
2024 5th round pick (Logo of the Nashville PredatorsNSH)---001------
2024 5th round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Saros, JuuseNashville PredatorsNHL-$4,973,118011-------00
2024 4th round pick (Logo of the Nashville PredatorsNSH)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$18,830,3331633452111
Change$5,871,26400000-1
Final$24,701,597 (↑)1633452110 (↓)000
Wed. at 3:28 p.m.
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Goggles86
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Sounds like Saros is staying in NASH.
The right value would be something like Saros, a 1st and a 2nd for Marner alone.
And the Leafs would be making a mistake taking that trade. Because Saros would play for 1 year and then price himself out of town and they would be left with nothing.
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Wed. at 4:05 p.m.
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Sounds like Saros is staying in NASH.
The right value would be something like Saros, a 1st and a 2nd for Marner alone.
And the Leafs would be making a mistake taking that trade. Because Saros would play for 1 year and then price himself out of town and they would be left with nothing.


I dunno man, I think you are way too optimistic on what they can get for him (if he does waive). His expected salary is a red flag as is his past contract negotiations and playoff performance.
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I dunno man, I think you are way too optimistic on what they can get for him (if he does waive). His expected salary is a red flag as is his past contract negotiations and playoff performance.


I dont expect him to get traded at all personally. I think he walks. And I think the contract he receives from whoever signs him with show that all these people ragging on him have no idea what they are talking about. The question is, when a second NHL GM, from a totally different team, comes along and gives him 11-12 million again long term. Will everyone come back and admit they were wrong? Or will they still believe they know more about hockey then the entire management group of multiple NHL franchises.
They are all walking around right now under the belief that its just the Leafs screwing up. And that everyone else in the world see Marner for "what he really is"...
We will see about that.
Yesterday at 9:56 a.m.
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Quoting: svfsdv
I dont expect him to get traded at all personally. I think he walks. And I think the contract he receives from whoever signs him with show that all these people ragging on him have no idea what they are talking about. The question is, when a second NHL GM, from a totally different team, comes along and gives him 11-12 million again long term. Will everyone come back and admit they were wrong? Or will they still believe they know more about hockey then the entire management group of multiple NHL franchises.
They are all walking around right now under the belief that its just the Leafs screwing up. And that everyone else in the world see Marner for "what he really is"...
We will see about that.



It all depends on where Marner goes. Whether he gets traded or walks away as a UFA, the team that he goes to may already have an established hierarchy of player contracts. Take Tampa Bay for example. Their top players make $9.5M/yr. Unless your name is McDavid or Draisaitl, you are not coming in and asking for more than Kucherov or Point. A team like Vegas has set players up to take a bit less to play on a competitive team. It seems everyone gets surprised when they have been able to resign free agents for less than what is expected. They do this because they don't want to piss off the guys they already have on the team.
Compare that to the Leafs situation. Marner will probably not ask for AM money, but you can bet that he finds himself just as valuable as Nylander. So, he will ask for that contract and maybe a little bit more. It may be ego, but it is standard when you resign with a team.

Marner may surprise us all and sign with a team like San Jose and just take the most money he can get and not worry about being competitive. I have a feeling that if he leaves the Leafs, he will want to go to a team that has a chance to make it out of the second round and be able to show Leaf Nation that he can contribute to a winner and its not his fault that his team is not winning.
Yesterday at 10:20 a.m.
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It all depends on where Marner goes. Whether he gets traded or walks away as a UFA, the team that he goes to may already have an established hierarchy of player contracts. Take Tampa Bay for example. Their top players make $9.5M/yr. Unless your name is McDavid or Draisaitl, you are not coming in and asking for more than Kucherov or Point. A team like Vegas has set players up to take a bit less to play on a competitive team. It seems everyone gets surprised when they have been able to resign free agents for less than what is expected. They do this because they don't want to piss off the guys they already have on the team.
Compare that to the Leafs situation. Marner will probably not ask for AM money, but you can bet that he finds himself just as valuable as Nylander. So, he will ask for that contract and maybe a little bit more. It may be ego, but it is standard when you resign with a team.

Marner may surprise us all and sign with a team like San Jose and just take the most money he can get and not worry about being competitive. I have a feeling that if he leaves the Leafs, he will want to go to a team that has a chance to make it out of the second round and be able to show Leaf Nation that he can contribute to a winner and its not his fault that his team is not winning.


I agree with all that. I am also a realist and understand taxes. If he signs for 9 or 10m in LV or TB. Thats 12-13m in TO. So that would be right on par with what I am saying.
Anyone who refuses to see that reality, is a troll. Its not a coincidence that COL and TB and DAL and LV and FLA are so good all the time.
They have 15-20% more cap space than the rest of the league does.
 
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