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Team: 2024-25 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 12, 2024
Published: Jun. 12, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
2$1,150,000
1$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,250,000
2$1,350,000
3$3,500,000
3$2,750,000
2$1,250,000
1$775,000
1$950,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Nurse, Darnell
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
2.
BOS
  1. Kane, Evander
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (EDM)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (NYR)
4.
Buyouts
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$88,000,000$85,529,167$3,550,000$0$2,470,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
LW, C
RFA
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
UFA
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, LW
UFA
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA
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$850,000$850,000
RW, C
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$900,000$900,000
LD
RFA
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RD
UFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
RD
RFA - 1
$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA

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Wed. at 4:04 p.m.
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Bud, the assets in your trade doesn’t even dump Nurse. And I’ll remind you that you wanted Dach on top of that.

Not sure what you’re trying to get to here


let me make it as simple as i can.

so nurses contract brings down his value, we all agree on that, which is why picks and a prospect were added

matheson has lots of points but is an objectively terrible defender. he is 25th percentile overall as a top pairing defender and 16th percentile in actual defence. which means he is essentially a cap dump himself. meaning he brings down the value of dach
Wed. at 4:06 p.m.
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tyson barrie is 1 year removed from 55 points and he’s basically worthless. evaluating defenders by their box score is basically pointless


Matheson didn't do it riding McDrai's coattails on the best powerplay in NHL history. He's also bigger, faster and nowhere near the defensive liability that Barrie is.

The point remains that trading for a top 4 defenseman is expensive, teams aren't just letting those go and your offer is about 2 picks away from being a 2nd+3rd+ guy who hasn't shown much NHL upside recently.
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Wed. at 4:07 p.m.
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habs get the best player in the trade (also the worst contract, but still the best). massively improves their young D-core while trading from a place of depth (skilled forward)

bruins replace the debrusk sized hole in their top 6

utah gets the only openly mormon player in the league and a solid veteran defender to help their young d-core

i agree with sjs though. but i wanted kostin back on this team


Habs are giving up the 2 best players in the trade. Give your head a shake.
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Wed. at 4:09 p.m.
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hard minutes? the games didn't matter.


They might have mattered much for the Habs but I'm pretty sure the teams on the other side might have been trying to win.
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Wed. at 4:09 p.m.
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Quoting: LumberJacques
Matheson didn't do it riding McDrai's coattails on the best powerplay in NHL history. He's also bigger, faster and nowhere near the defensive liability that Barrie is.

The point remains that trading for a top 4 defenseman is expensive, teams aren't just letting those go and your offer is about 2 picks away from being a 2nd+3rd+ guy who hasn't shown much NHL upside recently.


tyson barrie was quite literally a better DEFENDER the year he was traded to nashville than matheson is
Wed. at 4:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Max
let me make it as simple as i can.

so nurses contract brings down his value, we all agree on that, which is why picks and a prospect were added

matheson has lots of points but is an objectively terrible defender. he is 25th percentile overall as a top pairing defender and 16th percentile in actual defence. which means he is essentially a cap dump himself. meaning he brings down the value of dach


Maybe you didn’t realize that Matheson is a 2nd pair guy getting overplayed? I agree he’s not a top pair guy, but he is a good 2nd pair one, and for under 5 mill, he’s got a bargain of a contract, so definitely not a cap dump.

Let’s go conservative here and say that Nurse would cost a 1st to dump.

That would leave a 2nd and Bourgault for Dach and Matheson, which is an absolutely terrible trade.
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Wed. at 4:11 p.m.
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Maybe you didn’t realize that Matheson is a 2nd pair guy getting overplayed? I agree he’s not a top pair guy, but he is a good 2nd pair one, and for under 5 mill, he’s got a bargain of a contract, so definitely not a cap dump.

Let’s go conservative here and say that Nurse would cost a 1st to dump.

That would leave a 2nd and Bourgault for Dach and Matheson, which is an absolutely terrible trade.


if being an under 5M defender on the second pair makes a player valuable, then boy do i have a guy you’ll LOVE
Wed. at 4:12 p.m.
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Even with removing Matheson or Dach, Habs would decline instantly.
Nurse is a non-starter for the Habs.
No amount of fan-justification negates that.
No deal on that Habs proposal.

Cheers buddy !

(And F the Caps)
Wed. at 4:14 p.m.
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if being an under 5M defender on the second pair makes a player valuable, then boy do i have a guy you’ll LOVE


I’d assume a #3 on a team would have a cap hit of about 5.5 to 7 mil, so Matheson is at the very least a million less then he should be paid
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Wed. at 4:15 p.m.
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I’d assume a #3 on a team would have a cap hit of about 5.5 to 7 mil, so Matheson is at the very least a million less then he should be paid


cody ceci is currently a second pairing guy and makes 3.25M. by your standards he is one of the most valuable guys in the league
Wed. at 4:17 p.m.
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cody ceci is currently a second pairing guy and makes 3.25M. by your standards he is one of the most valuable guys in the league


Ceci is a pretty ****ty 2nd pair guy, ideally more of a #5, definitely not a #3, so your math is off
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Wed. at 4:19 p.m.
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cody ceci is currently a second pairing guy and makes 3.25M. by your standards he is one of the most valuable guys in the league


Healthy scratch worthy Ceci makes 3.25M more than a healthy scratch worthy guy should make. Your idiotic arguments are invalid.
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Wed. at 4:23 p.m.
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tyson barrie was quite literally a better DEFENDER the year he was traded to nashville than matheson is


That's debatable, his metrics may have looked better that year but he was also being sheltered on the 2nd pair while Ceci and Nurse ate the tougher matchups.
Wed. at 4:25 p.m.
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cody ceci is currently a second pairing guy and makes 3.25M. by your standards he is one of the most valuable guys in the league


Ceci was actually a healthy scratch in his most recent game.
Wed. at 4:25 p.m.
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They might have mattered much for the Habs but I'm pretty sure the teams on the other side might have been trying to win.


and?

he can run around trying to put up numbers because there was nothing to play for.
Wed. at 4:26 p.m.
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Name me the guys that logged more minutes than Matheson this year, the list won’t be long.

Remove 2-3 min of ice time, and he loses 10 pts, but becomes a hella lot better defensively. Almost all his mistakes come from just playing too much

A guy that skates like him, that can notch points, and log minutes is definitely not nothing


when did i say he was nothing? please point that out.
Wed. at 4:29 p.m.
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when did i say he was nothing? please point that out.


nothing, nothing special, my bad homie.

You see what I mean
Wed. at 4:31 p.m.
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and?

he can run around trying to put up numbers because there was nothing to play for.


That's true, though the Habs played the highest number of 1 goal games in the NHL this past season so it's not like these were always free flowing basketball style games either. And to be fair somebody had to score and outside the top line MTL didn't have much offense so it's hard to blame him for trying stuff.
Wed. at 4:40 p.m.
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that’s totally fair, despite the horrendous contract i still think nurse has value as a top pairing defender.


Your top pairing defender has been starting on the bottom pair this series...according to hockeyreference he's been averaging just 10:15 a game this series. He's a garbage player on a horrific contract lol. Enjoy the next six years of that contract!
Wed. at 4:44 p.m.
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let me make it as simple as i can.

so nurses contract brings down his value, we all agree on that, which is why picks and a prospect were added

matheson has lots of points but is an objectively terrible defender. he is 25th percentile overall as a top pairing defender and 16th percentile in actual defence. which means he is essentially a cap dump himself. meaning he brings down the value of dach


So he had similar defensive impacts as to when Nurse played close to comparable minutes. Which further supports Montreal having what you're selling already at half the price.
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Wed. at 4:56 p.m.
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That's true, though the Habs played the highest number of 1 goal games in the NHL this past season so it's not like these were always free flowing basketball style games either. And to be fair somebody had to score and outside the top line MTL didn't have much offense so it's hard to blame him for trying stuff.


i'm not blaming him either, i'm just saying he's not special. he's not some top pair stud that's going to be a matchup nightmare for opponents. he was a guy that was enabled by playing a ton of minutes without much structure.
Wed. at 4:56 p.m.
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nothing, nothing special, my bad homie.

You see what I mean


no, i don't. he's not getting a 1st, 2nd, and prospect. he'll get a late first though. that's very solid.
Wed. at 5:05 p.m.
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no, i don't. he's not getting a 1st, 2nd, and prospect. he'll get a late first though. that's very solid.


I'll put it like this:

There might be about a max of 25 guys in the league who are capable of putting 60 points, let alone do it, and Matheson is one of them.

If K.Hughes told the other GMs that Matheson was on the block this offseason, I guarantee he would get a bunch, a lot more than a late 1st. And MTL would have 0 reason to trade him for only a late 1st.
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Wed. at 5:30 p.m.
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I'll put it like this:

There might be about a max of 25 guys in the league who are capable of putting 60 points, let alone do it, and Matheson is one of them.

If K.Hughes told the other GMs that Matheson was on the block this offseason, I guarantee he would get a bunch, a lot more than a late 1st. And MTL would have 0 reason to trade him for only a late 1st.


i think there's a lot more than that, but they chose to play winning hockey instead.
Wed. at 5:32 p.m.
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i think there's a lot more than that, but they chose to play winning hockey instead.


yeah, don't think there is that much.
 
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