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Tavares

Created by: Wingsfan20
Team: 2018-19 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 5, 2017
Published: Aug. 5, 2017
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I'm guessing the salary cap will go up around $2 million again, so I put it at $77 million.
I think having Frans Nielsen and signing former teammates like Thomas Vanek and Chad Johnson could be a major draw for Tavares to Detroit. Plus, Detroit is close to home (Toronto) for him and the money is better in the US because of the taxes and cost of living.
Trading Abdelkader to Vegas is a salary dump, but he would be an upgrade in their bottom 9 forward group. Plus, Detroit could easily absorb Clarkson's contract by placing him or LTIR.
I think Toronto could use a guy like Glendening to replace Brian Boyle on the fourth line, plus he's cheap.
Edler would upgrade the back end here and Nyquist would certainly help Vancouver's offense as the Sedin's could be gone.
I feel that Arizona will need another goalie that can step in if Raanta can't handle the load, especially if they think they'll be competing for a playoff spot.
Mike Green is still a solid offensive defenseman and I think he's worth it at $4 million, his numbers will go up with better players around him, especially on the PP.
This is whole thing is obviously far fetched, but one can dream.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
4$5,000,000
2$1,000,000
5$5,000,000
4$4,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$11,000,000
2$3,000,000
3$4,000,000
2$1,500,000
Trades
1.
2.
DET
  1. 2019 6th round pick (TOR)
3.
DET
  1. Edler, Alexander ($2,000,000 retained)
VAN
  1. Nyquist, Gustav
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (DET)
4.
DET
  1. Crouse, Lawson
  2. 2019 6th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Howard, Jimmy
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (DET)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$77,000,000$75,758,333$755,000$1,062,500$1,241,667

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$6,083,333$6,083,333
C
UFA - 3
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
UFA - 5
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$3,850,000$3,850,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$812,500$812,500
RD
UFA - 1
$3,166,666$3,166,666
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
$700,000$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$3,954,545$3,954,545
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2

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Aug. 5, 2017 at 7:32 p.m.
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It took me a minute to figure out that you were projecting ahead a year, which is hard to imagine. Getting JT would sure put the Red Wings back on the map, but then why on earth keep Zetterberg in the #2 centre spot?

Not sure the D is at all close to being up to snuff. Maybe there's a way to trade Zetterberg and or Abdelkader for some better D.

At forward, I'd forget about Vanek. He has the heart of a ... a ... a ... ok, he has no heart. If JT were going to come to Motown, he'd want better wingers than that. Tatar is decent, but you'd be better to trade 2-for-1 and get a Pacioretty, Marchand, Kucherov or Skinner than try to make a go of it with the likes of Vanek.

You can afford it: you're way overpaying Mantha for a second contract. He's great for a 22-year-old, but he's not GREAT. He's going to have to get a few more years under his belt.
Aug. 5, 2017 at 7:53 p.m.
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Stop this cap dumping. It doesn't happen. Arizona isn't trading young Crouse for Howard. They can spend money on UFA and keep Prouse. You really don't understand the Clarkson move. Looks like Clarkson if forever on LTIR, so he isn't costing Vegas $$$$ or cap. But the declining Abdelkaker would cost the Vegas real $$$ and cap.
And one can dream of roster of 20.
Aug. 5, 2017 at 8:00 p.m.
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Vegas still has to pay Clarkson, therefore they'd be paying Abdelkader less and they get a player who will be in the lineup every night. If cap dumping doesn't happen, explain the Bickell trade to Carolina or the Stepan trade to Arizona or the original Clarkson trade to Columbus. Cap dumping happens all the time.
Aug. 5, 2017 at 8:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Truebeliever
It took me a minute to figure out that you were projecting ahead a year, which is hard to imagine. Getting JT would sure put the Red Wings back on the map, but then why on earth keep Zetterberg in the #2 centre spot?

Not sure the D is at all close to being up to snuff. Maybe there's a way to trade Zetterberg and or Abdelkader for some better D.

At forward, I'd forget about Vanek. He has the heart of a ... a ... a ... ok, he has no heart. If JT were going to come to Motown, he'd want better wingers than that. Tatar is decent, but you'd be better to trade 2-for-1 and get a Pacioretty, Marchand, Kucherov or Skinner than try to make a go of it with the likes of Vanek.

You can afford it: you're way overpaying Mantha for a second contract. He's great for a 22-year-old, but he's not GREAT. He's going to have to get a few more years under his belt.


Zetterberg is not going anywhere. Abdelkader isn't going to get you a better D unless you throw in a high draft pick. I agree that the D is not that good, but look at Pittsburgh, their D was NOT that good for both of their Cup runs, but they implemented a system to get around their average (at best) D-core. I think Vanek really liked Detroit and I saw more heart and passion than I've seen in a long time out of him last year. Maybe he was trying to earn a contract, but who knows. I think a chance to maybe win a cup towards the end of his career would hopefully give him a boost.
Aug. 5, 2017 at 8:27 p.m.
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Tavares is never coming to Detroit...like, ever.
Aug. 5, 2017 at 9:40 p.m.
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Vegas still has to pay Clarkson, therefore they'd be paying Abdelkader less and they get a player who will be in the lineup every night. If cap dumping doesn't happen, explain the Bickell trade to Carolina or the Stepan trade to Arizona or the original Clarkson trade to Columbus. Cap dumping happens all the time.


Not true about Clarkson if he's on LTIR the Vegas isn't out of pocket. His contract is insured. The assumption is the Vegas can find better value now and certainly in the years ahead that trading for 6m Abdelkader
Sure there is cap dumping. Bickell could play somewhat but not to 4m leveland the Canes got another player to go with the Bickell.
Rangers wanted cap space so they traded Stepan. Arizona finally wanted an NHL centre to play with other young forwards, so they traded for Stepan. Arizona was one of the few teams that could send a pick and prospect without sending money back to Rangers. It was hockey trade not a cap dump. Though I thought the Arizona had the Rangers by the "u know" and could have done a better deal.
All these years later and the writing about Clarkson/Horton and you still don't understand it. How sad. Here it goes.
Horton and Clarkson had the exact same contract and term. Horton injured his recurring neck injury and he was not insured for it. So Columbus was going to out of pocket 5.25m X 5 years ....26.25m
Leafs had the under performing Clarkson. Leafs wanted cap room, so they traded him to Columbus. Columbus did not think they needed cap room for the next five years so they would rather have a underperforming Clarkson at least some what contributing than paying out of pocket for nothing for Horton,
So the Leafs get cap relief with the injured Horton and the Maple Leaf Sport (Bell and Rogers) can just raise our cables, phone, internet to pay for Horton.
 
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