trade with Colorado....Not Duchene

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Created by: cnb17

Team: 2017-18 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2017

Published: Aug. 9, 2017

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I feel that Colorado is another team that's slightly heavy on centers (Mckinnon, Duchene, Soderberg, Wilson, Colborne) and I know trading and "old" guy for a prospect usually doesn't happen but the Avs are weak on the wings and Hornqvist can help with that as he still has plenty of skill. And he's now on the Pens 2nd or 3rd lines which to me is a waste. Jost has the potential of being an elite center but he's still a risk given his age and inexperience. But it's a cheap gamble for the Pens that could pay off big in the end.

Free Agent Signings

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Cullen, Matt		1	$1,200,000
Vanek, Thomas		1	$2,800,000

Trades

PIT

Jost, Tyson

COL

Hörnqvist, Patric
2018 3rd round pick (PIT)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$75,000,000	$69,005,725	$50,000	$845,000	$5,994,275

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $734,167$734,167 ($182,500$182K) LW, RW UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 8	Sheary, Conor $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Vanek, Thomas $2,800,000$2,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Kessel, Phil $6,800,000$6,800,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Hagelin, Carl $1,875,000$1,875,000 LW UFA - 2	Jost, Tyson $885,833$885,833 ($662,500$662K) C UFA - 3	Rust, Bryan $640,000$640,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Reaves, Ryan $1,125,000$1,125,000 RW UFA - 1	Cullen, Matt $1,200,000$1,200,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Kühnhackl, Tom $625,000$625,000 RW UFA - 1
	Rowney, Carter $612,500$612,500 C, RW UFA - 1	Archibald, Josh $675,000$675,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD UFA - 6	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5	Murray, Matt $3,750,000$3,750,000 G UFA - 3
Hunwick, Matt $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD UFA - 3	Schultz, Justin $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Niemi, Antti $700,000$700,000 G UFA - 1
Määttä, Olli $3,333,225$3,333,225 LD UFA - 5	Cole, Ian $2,100,000$2,100,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
	Pouliot, Derrick $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Kessel, P.		Crosby, S.		Guentzel, J.
	Letang, K.		Malkin, E.

Power Play 2
Vanek, T.		Jost, T.		Sheary, C.
	Schultz, J.		Määttä, O.

Penalty Kill 1
	Cullen, M.	Hagelin, C.
	Dumoulin, B.	Letang, K.

Penalty Kill 2
	Jost, T.	Kühnhackl, T.
	Hunwick, M.	Cole, I.

Aug. 9, 2017 at 12:43 p.m.

ClockReads2113

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Edited Aug. 9, 2017 at 2:26 p.m. by Banks

You just said it yourself "Jost has the potential of being an elite center". Why would a team that is rebuilding move a kid that looks extremely promising for an older winger and a late 3rd? [mod]

Aug. 9, 2017 at 12:50 p.m.

cnb17

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cnb17

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Edited Aug. 9, 2017 at 2:26 p.m. by Banks

Quoting: ClockReads2113

You just said it yourself "Jost has the potential of being an elite center". Why would a team that is rebuilding move a kid that looks extremely promising for an older winger and a late 3rd?

Because it's still a risk. At one point Pouliot was believe to be an elite Dman. Now he looks like a top 6 or maybe 7th. Sometimes the prospects don't pan out but Hornqvist gives the Avs a chance to be better and win now. The have the cap room and like I said are pretty weak on the wings. It's a gamble for both sides. And if a 2nd round pick makes it better than fine. I'd even say take a first if that's what makes the deal go through.

Aug. 9, 2017 at 1:03 p.m.

CapsHockey

CAPS

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Trade doesnt make sense for a rebuilding team... maybee if the avs just won back to back cups they would take that

Aug. 9, 2017 at 1:15 p.m.

ClockReads2113

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Edited Aug. 9, 2017 at 2:54 p.m. by Banks

Quoting: cnb17

But AVS are rebuilding, that's the main point. They shouldn't be trying to win anything, because they can't. They will be one of the worst teams again, Hornqvist doesn't change that.

Aug. 9, 2017 at 2:02 p.m.

Slimysnake

Avs fan

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This makes 0 sense why would we trade a potential Elite centre who is just 19. Sure Hornqvist is good but it doesn't add up to Jost's Value even with the 3rd. Doesn't make sense to trade for a guy that old while rebuilding and Hornqvist is a ufa and would not resign with one of the worse teams in the NHL

Aug. 9, 2017 at 2:43 p.m.

booman877111

Booman

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I dont believe the AVS make this trade unless they are getting someone just as young. Sprong/ZAR/Jake -- someone like that with maybe a MAATTA and Horqvist

Aug. 9, 2017 at 2:46 p.m.

coga16

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Jesus some of you Pens fans are out to lunch. Avs are not moving Jost. Nor MacKinnon or Rantanen bc you know what...They are the teams future, with Sakic and Mgmt openly saying that they are the teams core going fwd. hornqvist and a 3rd for the 10th overall pick in 2016.....jesus is this so delusional.

Why not propose MacKinnon for Hagelin while your at it

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Aug. 10, 2017 at 8:38 p.m.

Slimysnake

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Quoting: coga16

Couldn't have said it better myself

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