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Trading Ovechkin for fair value, starting to rebuild

Created by: Eli
Initial Creation Date: Aug 10, 2017
Published: Aug 10, 2017 at 7:17
Team: 2017-18 Washington Capitals
Team Explanation
A couple Penguin fans are trolling, posting ridiculously cheap trades to reunite Ovechkin with his old friend, Malkin. here's one the Caps mght actually accept.
Trades
WSH
  1. Cole, Ian
  2. Kessel, Phil
  3. Sprong, Daniel
  4. Sestito, Tom
  5. 2018 1st round pick (PIT)
  6. 2019 1st round pick (PIT)
  7. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
  8. 2018 2nd round pick (PIT)
  9. 2019 2nd round pick (PIT)
  10. 2018 3rd round pick (PIT)
  11. 2019 3rd round pick (PIT)
  12. 2020 3rd round pick (PIT)
  13. 2020 4th round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Ovechkin, Alex
  2. 2019 5th round pick (WSH)
  3. 2020 5th round pick (WSH)
  4. 2018 6th round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
Kessel is a salary dump/flip for more picks. Ovechkin for Ian Cole, and a boatload of prospects, and picks, none of which the Penguins will be needing, now that they have three MVP forwards, and they become the default stop for any free agent looking to put together a great season. They get a dynasty right away, like the NHL hasn't seen since the '80s. The Capitals, with all of these picks, start an epic rebbuild, and put together their own dynasty in the second half of the '20s.
WSH
  1. 2018 2nd round pick (VAN)
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (VAN)
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Kessel, Phil
WSH
  1. Carrick, Connor
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Rychel, Kerby
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Carlson, John
WSH
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Niskanen, Matt
WSH
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Chorney, Taylor
WSH
  1. 2018 1st round pick (EDM)
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
Washington is rebuilding. Edmonton doesn't want Pittsburgh to spoil their Stanley Cup hopes, so they call MacLellan for a couple of defensive specialists, at the trade deadline. Who wins the Cup?
EDM
  1. Eller, Lars
  2. Orpik, Brooks
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2018
WSH
PIT
EDM
FLA
PIT
VAN
WSH
TOR
PIT
WSH
WSH
2019
WSH
PIT
WSH
PIT
VAN
WSH
PIT
WSH
WSH
WSH
2020
WSH
PIT
WSH
TOR
MIN
EDM
WSH
PIT
VAN
CHI
WSH
PIT
WSH
WSH
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$75,000,000$53,778,310$4,978$1,115,000$21,221,690
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Burakovsky, André
$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Kuznetsov, Evgeny
$7,800,000
C
UFA - 8
Oshie, T.J.
$5,750,000
RW, C
NTC
UFA - 8
Rychel, Kerby
$863,333
LW
UFA - 1
Bäckström, Nicklas
$6,700,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
Wilson, Tom
$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Vrána, Jakub
$863,333
LW
RFA - 2
Beagle, Jay
$1,750,000
C
UFA - 1
Kapanen, Kasperi
$863,333
RW
RFA - 2
Connolly, Brett
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Graovac, Tyler
$625,000
C
UFA - 1
Sprong, Daniel
$692,500
RW
RFA - 1
Sestito, Tom
$650,000
LW
UFA - 1
Smith-Pelly, Devante
$650,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Orlov, Dmitry
$5,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
Dumba, Matt
$2,550,000
RD
UFA - 1
Holtby, Braden
$6,100,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
Cole, Ian
$2,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Bowey, Madison
$703,333
RD
UFA - 1
Grubauer, Philipp
$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Djoos, Christian
$650,000
LD
UFA - 2
Carrick, Connor
$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
Ness, Aaron
$612,500
LD
UFA - 1

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Aug 10, 2017 at 7:33
#1
krakowitz
Emotionally in 2018
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 8,621
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All those picks would be really nice, but the Pens would shoot that down in a heartbeat. As much as the Caps wouldn't need Kessel if we were to rebuild, Pittsburgh has a value on him. They certainly wouldn't add their top prospects and their first three rounds for two years, plus another first, third and fourth, plus Ian Cole for Ovechkin. And dammit, Ovechkin better not play for the Penguins ever. I'd have so many mixed emotions I wouldn't know what to do with myself
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Aug 10, 2017 at 8:07
#2
timmyv38
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 209
Likes: 25
Not gonna lie, this made me laugh. The recent Ovie trade postings have been horrible - nice rebuttal.
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Aug 10, 2017 at 8:34
#3
Slimysnake
Avs fan
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 68
Likes: 6
Orpik trade doesn't make sense you would have yo give up a first or 2nd to get rid of that contract
Aug 10, 2017 at 8:43
#4
Eli
Thread Starter
Who adds what?
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 13,131
Likes: 2,563
Quoting: Slimysnake
Orpik trade doesn't make sense you would have yo give up a first or 2nd to get rid of that contract


Slimy, I invite you to name a nastier player, a player who has injured more people in playoff history, or a player who cares more about beating the Penguins. Edmonton has plenty of cap space. Orpik has a Stanley Cup, and so many President's trophies he's lost count. He's been part of the best team in the league and the league's best penalty kill on two different teams. But if they don't want him, this package has at least that value to any other team with cap space and cup aspirations. Eller alone was traded for two 2nd picks last summer, and prices for defensively sound veterans are always higher at the trade deadline. So I was kind of offering Edmonton a deal. Because who doesn't love Edmonton?

Krakowitz and Timmy, smile smile smile smile smile
Aug 10, 2017 at 9:40
#5
Willian_Cardoso
Let's go Pens!
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,717
Likes: 332
The most fair value for Ovechkin would be a trade for Sestito. Both are goones piece of s***.

But I'll give 5 stars because I like good jokes. And Ovechkin is the greatest joke of NHL.
Aug 12, 2017 at 8:30
#6
Eli
Thread Starter
Who adds what?
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 13,131
Likes: 2,563
Quoting: krakowitz
All those picks would be really nice, but the Pens would shoot that down in a heartbeat. As much as the Caps wouldn't need Kessel if we were to rebuild, Pittsburgh has a value on him. They certainly wouldn't add their top prospects and their first three rounds for two years, plus another first, third and fourth, plus Ian Cole for Ovechkin. And dammit, Ovechkin better not play for the Penguins ever. I'd have so many mixed emotions I wouldn't know what to do with myself


I think the Penguins would sleep on this deal, have a meeting about it, and then call Kessel to thank him for everything. Crosby and Malkin are as old as Ovechkin. The other guys they have only work well because Crosby and Malkin make things easy for them. Pittsburgh has immense pressure to win right away, and they don't need a bunch of draft picks. Of course, if they wanted to pick a different salary dump, and keep Kessel, they have Hornqvist and Hageln. Either would get them under the cap this year. Yeah. I ran the numbers... https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/445214 smile
 
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