duchene trade where he isn't overpaid for

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Created by: Spanky227

Team: 2017-18 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 15, 2017

Published: Sep. 15, 2017

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

THERE WILL PROBABLY BE BETTER OFFERS FOR HIM. IDK why everybody ridiculously overpays for him.. i saw galchenyuk, juulsen and a first for him when idk if i would trade just galchenyuk for him.

assuming he doesn't show up to training camp and forces sakics hand. there will probably be better offers but you get a defensive prospect that is under 24 and ready to make the bump up to the nhl, staal is still somewhat serviceable and at 3.5 it's not the worst contract (considering girardi got 3mill for two years) and will solidify the LH side temporarily until Graves proves his worth and developes into a second pair player, a third line prospect in nieves (good possession player that can play center as well as wing) and a first round pick in a very deep draft.

also DeAngelo has more potential that Puempel, so play him at wing if his defensive game is too weak, at least while Fast is out

honestly if poink and deangelo can prove themselves more valuable than smith during training camp, see if sending smith would work. IF they can play i wouldn't mind seeing

McD-Shatty
Skjei-Poink
Bereglazov-DeAngelo

Trades

NYR

Duchene, Matt

COL

Graves, Ryan
Nieves, Cristoval
Staal, Marc ($2,200,000 retained)
2018 1st round pick (NYR)

NYR

2018 3rd round pick (EDM)

EDM

Holden, Nick

NYR

Duchene

COL

Smith
Graves
1st round pick
holden/neives

Buyouts

Dan Girardi: $2,611,111
Brad Richards: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Marc Staal: $2,200,000 (38.6%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$75,000,000	$69,399,444	$0	$4,950,000	$5,600,556

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Zuccarello, Mats $3,150,000$3,150,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Duchene, Matt $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, C UFA - 2	Miller, J.T. $2,750,000$2,750,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1
Kreider, Chris $4,625,000$4,625,000 LW UFA - 3	Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 C UFA - 5	Buchnevich, Pavel $925,000$925,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 2
Vesey, Jimmy $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) RW, LW UFA - 1		Nash, Rick $3,900,000$3,900,000 LW, RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Grabner, Michael $1,650,000$1,650,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Hayes, Kevin $2,600,000$2,600,000 C UFA - 1	Deangelo, Anthony $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) RD UFA - 2
Puempel, Matt $725,000$725,000 LW UFA - 1	Desharnais, David $1,000,000$1,000,000 C UFA - 1	Fast, Jesper $1,850,000$1,850,000 RW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
McDonagh, Ryan $4,700,000$4,700,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Shattenkirk, Kevin $6,650,000$6,650,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Lundqvist, Henrik $8,500,000$8,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
Skjei, Brady $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 1	Smith, Brendan $4,350,000$4,350,000 LD/RD, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Pavelec, Ondrej $1,300,000$1,300,000 G UFA - 1
	Pionk, Neal $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 2
Bereglazov, Alexei $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 2

Sep. 15, 2017 at 5:38 p.m.

a1111

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Huge underpayment . Why would AVS accept to pay 9m of useless Marc Staal ? For a bunch of second rounder with a 30% chance of making the game ?

Sep. 15, 2017 at 5:50 p.m.

goldie078

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Doesn't Marc Staal have a NMC? Why would he waive it for COL

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Sep. 15, 2017 at 5:56 p.m.

Spanky227

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Tspky

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Quoting: a1111

Huge underpayment . Why would AVS accept to pay 9m of useless Marc Staal ? For a bunch of second rounder with a 30% chance of making the game ?

don't be sour that i just bashed your trade in the description. mtl would be horrid with the aftermath of that trade. if you wanna give galchenyuk away for that little i'll give you desharnais and a second rounder.

Staal isn't a top tier defender anymore but he is capable -- not worth the 5.7 price tag which is why retained salary--
nieves and graves are both NHL ready-- will never be top tier players no but nieves will be a solid 3rd line player (similar to Fast-- vastly underrated by playing solid defensive game and able to put up 20+ points in a bottom level role) and graves will be a solid second pairing defenseman (think of smith, McQuaid, willie mitchell, etc) plus a first round pick.. and this is all hypothetical if duchene forces sakics hand (in which case every team will low ball their offers)

Sep. 15, 2017 at 5:57 p.m.

Spanky227

Thread Starter

Tspky

Joined: Feb. 2016

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Quoting: Spanky227

don't be sour that i just bashed your trade in the description. mtl would be horrid with the aftermath of that trade. if you wanna give galchenyuk away for that little i'll give you desharnais and a second rounder.

Staal isn't a top tier defender anymore but he is capable in a slightly sheltered role -- not worth the 5.7 price tag which is why retained salary-- (think girardi got 3 million and well.. thats a true traffic cone)
nieves and graves are both NHL ready-- will never be top tier players no but nieves will be a solid 3rd line player (similar to Fast-- vastly underrated by playing solid defensive game and able to put up 20+ points in a bottom level role) and graves will be a solid second pairing defenseman (think of smith, McQuaid, willie mitchell, etc) plus a first round pick.. and this is all hypothetical if duchene forces sakics hand (in which case every team will low ball their offers)

Sep. 15, 2017 at 6:19 p.m.

a1111

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Quoting: Spanky227

don't be sour that i just bashed your trade in the description. mtl would be horrid with the aftermath of that trade. if you wanna give galchenyuk away for that little i'll give you desharnais and a second rounder.
To be honest i didn't read the description so i couldn't be sore lol , but yeah my offer is way better . Maybe too much ? ok take some out . Your one is exempt of differencemakers and mine have 1 + potentially a lot more . Cheers !

Staal isn't a top tier defender anymore but he is capable in a slightly sheltered role -- not worth the 5.7 price tag which is why retained salary-- (think girardi got 3 million and well.. thats a true traffic cone)
nieves and graves are both NHL ready-- will never be top tier players no but nieves will be a solid 3rd line player (similar to Fast-- vastly underrated by playing solid defensive game and able to put up 20+ points in a bottom level role) and graves will be a solid second pairing defenseman (think of smith, McQuaid, willie mitchell, etc) plus a first round pick.. and this is all hypothetical if duchene forces sakics hand (in which case every team will low ball their offers)

Sep. 15, 2017 at 7:15 p.m.

TJTwolf

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Can't see the Avs having any interest in Staal even with salary retained. FYI Duchene has already arrived in Denver for training camp. It's highly unlikely he won't be there after his interview with the press.

Sep. 15, 2017 at 8:31 p.m.

valiqs

Joined: Jan. 2017

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Quoting: goldie078

Doesn't Marc Staal have a NMC? Why would he waive it for COL

This. Literally every trade that involves Marc Staal doesn't answer this question. Spanky, even if all of the teams are okay with this, why would Staal agree to this?

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