Oct 4, 2018
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>delneggs</b></div><div>OK, lets try this a different way. I agree everyone should get a second chance. Brendan Smith did and made the most of it. Kravstov did and was doing his time in Hartford working on improving his game instead of pouting about not making the NHL. But neither of them quit mid-game and walked out on their team and teammates. Can you tell me a legit reason Lias quit mid-game and walked out on his team and teammates and went back to Sweden, one where he deserves a second chance? After all, Quinn is all about a meritocracy and earning your ice time. What is the reason Lias deserves a second chance? And being a 1st round pick isn't a good reason.
And also consider this.....if they were to just let Lias come back to training camp like nothing happened, and try out for the team, what does that say to a kid like Chytil who took his demotion at the beginning of the year and worked his ass off to get better in Hartford, and then made the most of his opportunity when he got called up? No, there has to be consequences for just walking out like Lias did. if not, than Quinn's whole message will be BS. Unless Lias comes up with some legit reason he walked out, like he had a metal breakdown and needed psych care, he doesn't deserve a second shot with the Rangers.</div></div>
Andersson had injuries to his feet when he limped off the team back to Sweden. But I'm sure he'll say sorry and please and maybe that's enough for Andersson to get his 2nd chance.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>delneggs</b></div><div>He couldn't beat out McNugget for the 4th line center position this season, so why on earth do you think he has a shot next season? Plus, a guy like DeGuseppie was way more useful to the team than Lias ever was, so he won't even have a shot on the wing. And there is NO WAY the coaches and players just let his QUITTING and walking out mid game on the Wolf Pack go. Not a chance. He gets thrown in as an extra in a bigger trade this off season unless Gorton can find a brain dead GM to take him on his own.....which he won't. Who want's a kid that can't crack the Ranger's line up and then quits? I don't care where he was drafted.</div></div>
Andersson beat out McKegg and Chytil to make The Rangers roster last season. The 4 centers to start the season were Zibanejad, Strome, Howden, and Andersson. McKegg was a healthy scratch most nights until the 4th line center spot opened up for him.
With NYR up against the salary cap next season, I don't see Gorton bringing in any free agents until the following season. So it's probably going to be Andersson, McKegg, Forgety, Nieves, O'Regan, or that college grad that was just signed, as the 4th line center. I would give Andersson very good odds of winning the job regardless of last season.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>delneggs</b></div><div>As what, a water boy? Trainer? He couldn't make last years team and then quit mid game on the Wolf Pack and went back to Sweden to pout. You think his coaches and teammates are just going to forget that? And if so, he will somehow have what it takes to make next years team? Keep dreaming. They will be lucky to get a bag of pucks for him in a trade.</div></div>
Yeah, I believe the coaches and players will forget about last season and just chalk it up to a bad luck season where everything that could go wrong - went wrong. Starting opening night when Andersson tripped over a tv cable while being introduced.
The Rangers like Howden at LW, so the 4th line center right now is McKegg - who's a UFA at seasons end. But even if McKegg is resigned, Andersson should be able to win 4th line center from McKegg, Fogarty, Nieves, O'Reagen, etc. Also like you said, he has no trade value. May as well give him another chance with better line mates and a 4th line that will probably used much more than when he centered Haley and Smith.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tormundgiantsbane</b></div><div>JT Miller is really the only recent example. Stepan, Callahan, Dubinsky, Anisimov, Nash, Hagelin, Gaborik, I'd even say McDonagh, all got worse after leaving the Rangers. Skjei started out strong and has been in a spiral for the past four or so years. Maybe if he settles into a second pair role he will get better, but as a top D, he was awful.</div></div>
I wish Vancouver offered the Rangers a 1st and a 3rd round pick for Miller. I believe Skjei will, not easy living up to that sort of contract at a young age in New York.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>I would disagree because DeAngelo should be in for a hefty raise once the cap clears up in 21-22. I do suppose that depends on Deangelo, though. I could see from a Ranger perspective we'd want to lock him up long term, but he's turning out to be worth Trouba's price tag a lot more than Trouba is showing so far.
... either way, my terms are kinda just for show regardless, but that was the meaning behind it anyway : P
Strome has been on short contracts majority of his career and will likely want a bigger one, though</div></div>
DeAngelo is better offensively than Trouba, but Trouba is playing against the other teams 1st lines and is better defensively. Trouba is also bigger and much more physical, who eats up minutes without getting worn down. Trouba is improving as well... Last season playing on a stacked Jets D-corps he was a 3rd pair D-man and is now playing the role of a 1st pair D-man. But unlike DeAngelo being on the 3rd pair, Trouba's size, physicality, and overall defence, made it clear he's a 1st pair D-man. But he's had to adjust to the new role and his ability to adjust is the biggest reason for the Rangers much improved overall defence.