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Forum: NHL TradesOct 7 at 8:31

Thread: (OTT/NYR) - Ebert for Namestnikov

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>staytru20</b></div><div>They're probably banking on him getting some premiere ice time in the top six on the Sens, and then flip him at the TDL for a better pick/prospect.</div></div>

That makes sense.... but how would the senators think of that.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGJul 4 at 9:53

Thread: Trade with EDM

That flyers trade is awful. Ghost for three guys that are better served in the pressbox. Hard pass.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul 2 at 12:44

Thread: Carolina Hurricanes signed Sebastian Aho (5 Years / $8,454,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AH96</b></div><div>I'm going to be the 1 guy who said no because it's not enough to get Aho, only enough to piss of Carolina.</div></div>

That’s exactly why I am a yes. I love that a team finally used an offer sheet and that the cap hit was reasonable to keep the picks low (for the player) but real money impactful.

I love everything about this offer sheet and it would mean even more if the Hurricanes hadn’t matched and let the league know that they aren’t serious about keeping their superstars in the future.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul 1 at 6:11

Thread: Dallas Stars signed Joe Pavelski (3 Years / $7,000,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>moli92</b></div><div>1 or 2 years would've been better but the AAV is pretty low for a 35+ goal guy</div></div>

Pavelski has been great for a number of years, but he will be 35 in a few days and shot over 20% last season. I doubt he breaks 30 goals this year. I hope that I am wrong, but this deal could look Spezza-light by year 3.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 27 at 6:34

Thread: Another what if trade with the Flyers

If provorov would sign for $4 mil, he’d be signed already. I think it would be tough to get him under the cap given the roster.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 27 at 11:25

Thread: Konecny Offer sheet and VGK and EDM trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wardbell92</b></div><div>They wont give up their first that why they should not go over 4.2 mill. I honestly thought that Philly might not be able to match with their current cap situation (still need to sign Provarov as well). I agree that he is worth more than a second , thats the point of the offer sheet</div></div>

The flyers have ~$15m in space to sign Laughton, provorov, and TK. That’s should be more than enough considering their only bother lineup hole can be filled with an entry level contract.

$4.2 million should be affordable for the Flyers and a second round pick is not enough to consider letting him walk.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 27 at 10:37

Thread: Konecny Offer sheet and VGK and EDM trade

Do you think the Flyers would let him walk for $4.2 million? Do you think they would be content with a 2nd round pick as the asset in return?

The idea has merit if you want to overpay and give up at least a 1st and a 3rd, which is dangerous given the state of the organization. Do you really need a repeat of this year when you are hoping that you don’t win the draft lottery even though you are, by far, the worst team in the league?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 24 at 11:47

Thread: Ghost

An injury-prone 3rd line forward and a goalie prospect that has showed no ability to compete at the NHL level for a player you are slotting into the 1st pair.

I think the flyers could get better return... or would be better off at forward with ghost on the wing over Perreault.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 20 at 10:36

Thread: with Ghosts rumour factored in

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>
Hagg's a far better Value . 8th in the NHL in hits with 258 and has over 150 Blocks shots (double digit numbers more then the next guys in the top 10 for hits ) out of those top 10 hitters Hagg played the 2nd most minutes over the season behind only Adam Larsson of EDM .</div></div>

Sounds like you appreciate his “skill set.” What will you give us for Hagg?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 20 at 6:47

Thread: BREAKING NEWS Callahan diagnosed with degenerative back disease - LTIR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mailbackwardz</b></div><div>Hope he’s ok. But find it odd that this comes out as soon as their in a cap crisis...</div></div>
It’s on the same level as hossa’s allergy attack.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 20 at 6:43

Thread: Bolts for fun Cally LTIR Point accepts 3 year Bridge no one traded Good team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>stammerman</b></div><div>Point accepting a 3 year 6.75 million dollar contract is not out of the question to be honest. If he wants to win a cup with this team he might have accept a deal like this to make the cap work. Plus at 3 years he would be up for 12+ on his next deal at just 26.</div></div>

He can leave money on the table and not win a cup in Tampa. The only thing that would be a certainty in that scenario is that he would get underpaid. Pay him what he’s earned and get rid of the dead weight instead.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 20 at 10:26

Thread: 1 more sleep - JG to Philly

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>royle9</b></div><div>Heavy overpay on purpose, (part of why its pretty unrealistic)
JG @ his current contract for 3 more years may be the BEST contract out there for a guy who put up 100pts, if Philly wants them as bad as they do then they have to go big :)</div></div>

Yeah.. we don’t want him nearly that much.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 15 at 3:43

Thread: If Hayes does not sign

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Heiskanen4Vezina</b></div><div>Is that really Hagg's value right now? If so, Dallas should jump all over that. They need someone that can play top-4 minutes. Polak is not that guy.

**EDIT**
After looking at his possession numbers and advanced stats, Hagg may not be that guy either....</div></div>

Yeah... Hagg is not that guy either

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 13 at 10:26

Thread: All 3 buyouts- No FA signings- JD builds the roster with a clean slate from here

I believe that you could get something for Shattenkirk with retained salary. I’m a flyers fan so I’m not 100% clear on his issues. I see point production is down but his underlying numbers aren’t terrible.

What is a reasonable return for retaining 2mil instead of buying him out?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 12 at 10:08

Thread: Habs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VividCHARLOT</b></div><div>So you are comparing 2 players that in the past 3 years scored on average 0.277 points/game on Philly's side, to 2 players that scored 0.511 points per game for the same period..
I guess you're either really bad at maths, stupid, or close minded.</div></div>

See above where I said it looks ridiculous because nobody wants bottom-6 forwards for a guy you slot into your top pairing. You are in the wrong ballpark if you think two 3rd liners are worth a former 60pt dman in his mid twenties.

If that’s the going rate, my Petry counter offer is more than fair.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 12 at 10:05

Thread: apparently this is close to happening

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VividCHARLOT</b></div><div>So you are comparing 2 players that in the past 3 years scored on average 0.277 points/game on Philly's side, to 2 players that scored 0.511 points per game for the same period..
I guess you're either really bad at maths, stupid, or close minded.</div></div>

And both of the flyers forwards are younger/cheaper RFAs... just as Petry has never scored at the level of ghost and is his mid 30s.

The sad part is that my deal makes more sense for the habs than the original deal makes for the Flyers. Don’t forget that Shaw has one good year in MTL and has never played a full 82.

Challenge: put together the flyers forwards line combos after the original offer and defend the move.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 12 at 8:55

Thread: Habs

Flyers counter offer Petry, Alain, and a 6th for Raffl, Hartman, Schlemko (willing to retain some salary) and a 3rd.

If that looks ridiculous to you, it was intentional. Nobody wants bottom six forwards and Sapir parts for top-4 defensemen.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 12 at 8:41

Thread: apparently this is close to happening

Philly counters with Hartman and Laughton plus pascal laberge for Jeff Petry.

Two third line players and a mid-tier prospect for a man that would slot in to the top pair.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 11 at 6:11

Thread: Gourde Gotta Go Small trades w MTL PHIL and NYR to open up cap space

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jasalex</b></div><div>The story we heard is Philly tried to sneak him through waivers and wanted him in the system. Small price to get him back. He played well in a limited role fourth line.</div></div>

Yes. He is a good AHL player and would be fine on the phantoms. If you get him through waivers I’ll give you a 7th.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 11 at 4:42

Thread: Summary of actual rumors

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>Gallagher would bee worth a lot more than ghost because he is on a very friendly contract! And ghost is not that good defensively! Anyway gallagher is goiing nowhere is the heart and soul of the canadiens! Ghost too montreal would be shaw and a decent prospect like josh brook or noah julsen and maybe a 2nd rounder or a late first not the 15 overall of this year. Next year the draft is not that good soo maybe the 1 2020</div></div>

Ghost averages more points per 82 as a dman than Drouin. Everyone should stop pretending that ghost is only worth a 3rd liner and mid round pick. Yes, he had a bad year (only 37 points, which would have been 2nd on mtl for dmen).

Find another dman in his mid 20s with a 60pt season making less than 5 mil a year. When you find that player think about what you’d give up for him and start applying that to ghost.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 11 at 3:53

Thread: GHOSTBEER

Nobody wants Shaw.

Byron is a 30 year old 3rd liner. He is obviously not enough to get a game-changing offensive defenseman.

2nd round pick does nothing for a team that has extreme depth in the farm system but is missing elite prospects.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 11 at 3:30

Thread: Philly Rumor Free Agents

So... a dman you are slotting into your top pair for two 3rd liners and moving down in draft.

You’d be closer with drouin + your 1st for ghost.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 11 at 12:26

Thread: 2 big moves before draft with PHI and MTL

I hesitated when I saw the Phl trade, which probably means it’s close to fair. I’d be happy to welcome PK to philly.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 11 at 12:24

Thread: Philly Rumour

Andrew Shaw is not intriguing to me as a Flyers fan. He scored 20 goals once - 5 years ago, and has *never* played 82 games in a season. While he had a career-high 47 points this season, I would rather not buy-high on him in the same deal that we are selling-low on ghost.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun 9 at 7:20

Thread: Ghost thoughts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Architect</b></div><div>Exactly. This trade is based on priorities. IMO Giroux isn't gonna go anywhere cause of his NMC, except for a contender but most contenders probably can't absorb his cap hit unless PHI retains about half of it.

I'm only taking MacDonald's contract so the Flyers have more room to sign Hayes.

As for giving extra assets, i got my untouchables. If PHI wants to settle for the other ones then I'll bend. If not, then I'll give an extra mid-late pick.</div></div>

Let's not act like the only option that Philly has is trading assets to MTL for under fair value. You are nowhere close with Drouin and Danault for Ghost and Patrick. If this happened in real life, there would be dozens of articles that struggle to justify the move other than Philly selling low on two very good assets.

A MacDonald buyout would cost us ~$1.2mil in dead space this year. That to me is worth a 5th round pick.

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