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Forum: Armchair-GM8 minutes ago
Thread: The New Champs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>Those stats are dead right.
I don't bs around with garbage stats like power play.
You evaluate a player you look at their 5v5 play. Everything else does not tell a real story. So many guys have nothing but power play points and are garbage 5v5 players.
Anyone who knows anything about hockey would tell you, the first place you look for a decline in a player is in their 5v5 play.
There it is. I just laid it out for you. You can accept it, or you can live in a cave.

Truth is Ghost isn't that good. You can keep pretending he is. But that's not what the facts say.
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1. I didn't realize that PP points didn't count :flushed .... even still <strong>check your math.</strong>
2. Even in a bad year with two (2) knee surgeries. Ghost is still a positive Corsi player at even strength and better than Jack Johnson.

My entire response was that Jack Johnson has no value to us. Are you trying to convince me that Ghost has none as well? I'm well aware that he needs to provide more than he has recently, but I'm not giving up on him for the garbage offered. So we agree... no deal.
Forum: Armchair-GM4 hours ago
Thread: The New Champs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>
I mean can't we say the same thing about Gostisbehere. I mean really. 42 games played. 4 points. 6 hits, 7 take aways 22 give aways.
51% corsi. While getting 56% of starts in the Ozone.
Last year was no better either.

He's a vastly over paid 3rd pair guy.

Kind of explains why I see Philly fans scratch him left and right on here.

To be honest, I wouldn't want him. Why pay more for bad results.</div></div>

I don't know who you are referring to... Ghost had down year this year, but <strong>those stats are just plain wrong</strong>.
He also had two knee surgeries this year, so maybe that has something to do with the issues on the ice. Just a wild guess there. Last year Ghost had 37 pts last year with a positive corsi rel and E+/-. If that is your "3rd pair guy", i'm ok with that. His upside is significant... which is probably why OP is willing to give up 4 assets and slotted him in to the top-4.

Meanwhile, Johnson has 34 pts over the last 3 season combined and gets absolutely dummied in corsi and E+/-. He has no potential to return to decent play because he is not good. Period. Now be honest with yourself, if you took that phone call as the GM, would you turn it down? I doubt it.

This is the equivalent to trading Letang when he was banged up for Andrew MacDonald and some other "assets." One player has the chance of playing a meaningful role, the other is joke of a contract.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 9:16 am
Thread: Philly in 20-21
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzmets</b></div><div>Sabres haven't given up on Mitts yet. I doubt they move him unless it is for immediate help at 2C.</div></div>

I don't see anyone giving you a 2C for an under-performing prospect. Still, it is way to early to sell on him unless a team overpays. It is comparable to Patrick for us. We lucked into the pick and have to hope he can return to the ice and play at a decent level.

I saw <a href="https://lastwordonhockey.com/2020/07/11/drafting-casey-mittelstadt-was-a-bad-idea/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">this article</a> about Mittelstadt yesterday. Main quote below:
"Casey Mittelstadt isn’t a product of a bad situation in Buffalo. The Sabres simply got fleeced. As the NHLe model shows, Mittelstadt had no business being featured in the top-10 of the 2017 Draft rankings. "
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 1:41 pm
Thread: Sabres
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>What is Philly adding? Eichel = 2 Couturiers, minimum</div></div>

Let us take a look at the totals for two centers since 2015-16 season:
A: 354 Games, 337 Points (137G, 200A) -60 +/- 216 EVP 118 PPP
B: 360 Games, 284 Points (111G, 173A) 77 +/- 228 EVP 53 PPP
Please tell me which is worth double the other because I don't see it. If you want more numbers, the advance stats wont make the case any stronger.

I will admit that Eichel is a more dynamic player and understand that he was the only thing going for Buffalo for his first few years, but to say he is worth 2x Couturier is wishful thinking (especially since 2x the cap hit would be &lt;9million).

<strong>TL;DR: 2x Couturier &gt; Eichel &gt; Couturier</strong>
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 7 at 9:51
Thread: Philly Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>asauer1122</b></div><div>to be fair, as a sabres fan Patrick has shown me nothing of interest. This is a high risk high reward trade for each team. Neither of them have proven anything</div></div>

Completely get it, completely agree. I was hoping to see strides in Patrick's offense this season (and last), but only has shown flashes of his talent level. Aside from the few highlight-reel plays, his production is just ok (.42 pts/game). I will say that his 200-foot game was fairly advanced for his age. I'd love to see him back on the ice in a 3C role for us.

From what I understand about Mittelstadt, he produced less in a more offensively-minded usage (especially his first two years). We have some prospects competing for icetime (e.g., Morgan Frost) that fit a similar mold albeit with lower expectations.